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Episode 21 · 1 year ago

WWE - MITB Review / NXT vs Raw/Smackdown / 90s & 00s vs Present - Episode 20

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This episode includes Campbell and Hamish's initial reaction after Money in the Bank a well as a relaxed conversation about the current state of Pro Wrestling.

I'll change settle. Welcome back to episode twenty. Of Hello, he on the lank bit of a special one, I guess episode twenty, like eventually it's going to dialed. Can't just every ten episode say this is special one, but I'd say the second ten, the second ten one. If not, I mean still a decent achievement. It is our own light. It's probably not the most well planned episode, and that's twice in a row now, because I know episode ten wasn't great either. But maybe episode fifty I think of something interesting to do. So to start this one off, we're actually gonna flash back to our money in the bank reviews. So we recorded a little twenty minute chat about money in the bank. Here we do the WWE pay view. If you don't know, money in the bank is straight after the event. It was about a month ago. So we're going to now have our former cells talking about the results and potential aftermath of that. We've made a few predictions in there as well as to what's going to happen in the WW in the following month. So yeah, I don't think any of our predictions were right. Yes, anyway, I enjoy it is currently Monday, the eleventh of May and if everything's gone to plan. We've just been introd by future haymision Campbell about the upcoming backlash pay per view, and Campbell is here with me. Hallo, Hallo, Hai, I'm back and back again. Any any words of wisdom to say to your future futureself? There's no place like home. All right. Yeah, so we just it's we are fresh of money in the bank. It was about ten hours ago or something. Yeah, it was in the morning. Yeah, it was this morning. It's nine o'clock now. Yes, I will just get straight into it. The pre show Jeff Hardy, invest czar. Yeah, so this was a late addition to the card. It was like the night before. Pretty much it was just a match put on because Jeff Hardy and shame is having a rivalry that's about to start. Yeah, C Sarrow is still technically connected to shames because of their tag team history, but I feel, like Cesarre, it's just a pre show, like boy now, because for the last two he's been preshow, not really having a like serious fight, just helping someone's career. Yeah, he's kind of just like a steady perform a little later. Yeah, but it's always it's always good to see jeff hardy wrestle. He's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time, so it's always good to see him wrestle. My surprised Shameston come out though, at the end of the match. Yeah, I thought he would have came out and just like it at the entrance and just like steat them off, but Jeff Hardy just won and I was the end of that match. He just like it was pretty weird. I heard someone say there's a couple of hours ago on a youtube video, but they were like it was basically just a smack down match. Yeah, it was. It wasn't really a pepit view match. I guess it was pretty sure and yeah, pretty clear. We didn't make a prediction for this in our money in the bank. Predate we and so it's going to happen. It was a late but if I was to gets I would have picked jeff honey. Yeah, it's pretty obvious. They were going to get him the win. Yeah, we can head into the shameless rivalry with some momentum. So is that WHO? What do you think's going to happen from that match? And Definitely Jeff Hardy and shamess. Over this next month, I reckon they the rivalry is going to get bigger...

...and they're actually going to start fighting each other like wrestle. Yeah, so I think that's pretty obvious. That's the there's not really any guess work in that. I'd be very shocked if there wasn't. So then we got into the main card. First of all, kicking us off, we had the fatal four way tag team. That's pretty three days. The new day Lucha is't son forgotten sons. So my guess was forgotten sons. Yeah, I guess new day to retain and then to spring board into a rivalry with forgotten son us. Yeah, I think. I yeah, I felt deep in my heart that new day was going to win, but I did think like the new because they push nxt stars really hard when they come into the main roster. So I did think they're going to win. They'll close to winning. They they were going to win, but then the new day stole the well, they didn't sell the victory. They are yeah, I thought it was just a pretty generic tag team match. It's fun. Yes, yeah, I do definitely think the new day will go into a feud with the've gotten son. Yeah, I think. Well, I think miss and Morrison, a kind of the tag team, is just going to be put on hold for a bit. Yeah, I think they're done, or maybe they'll move to raw or something. Yeah, after the pandemic and then lunch at they would really just did it to make up the numbers. So they'll go back to doing what they do best. Yeah, and so, yeah, I think I'll be forgotten sons because they had a little bit of controversy with Jackson Rock getting sent backstage basically, yeah, interfering. So I guess that adds a little bit of drama. Not really sure why. A little bit of beef, beef, beef, beef. So she definitely sons to come out of that. So yeah, that is I that's probably my prediction. That forgotten son's new day rivalry and they'll have a title match against each other at backlash. Yeah, and then what was next? Bobby Lashley? Well, supposed to be archie first. mvpieces another later addition to the car. So our truth and MVP came out. They had a little verbal argument, then bobby lashly came out and then Bobby Lashley was the one to face. Our truth just went off I was like a two minute match and yeah, I was Preti sh it's. It's very art with match and kind of I love Bobby. Lastly, like I loved him back in the day when he was versing like a remargl in a hair, heavy hair match, but like now he's a bit of far, I don't know, war yeah, he's not. He's not fun to what. Nothing about him that's interesting and like, I wouldn't say he's necessarily good enough wrestler to make up for that. He's not very fun to watch. Like back in the day he was very much like the face and heways a powerhouse, whereas now he's just like, I don't know, a bit boring, bit bland. Yeah, I guessed the when we found out about this match being added to the card. I guess that would have something to do the twenty four seven championship and its work and match. It seemed like I was incorrect and guessing that, but later on in the night our truth had a little cameo where he was like talking about well, he was a baker. Basically he was just saying hell, yeah, he wants his and he was confused and then he was saying he was going to go get his title back from Tom Brady. Yeah, obviously the GROND hazard. So just a bit our truth humor really. Yeah, but yeah, so I guess we were kind of right, although the match was a bit weird. It's per because obviously was to link the seven championship back into the show, as it hadn't appeared for a month and don't yeah, but pretty weird. Yeah, very weird, but it didn't take much time at least. Yeah, went, it went fast, all right. So what was next? Bailey versus to Mina, and Bailey defeated. To me. Now, so we both got this prediction wrong. Yeah, we both predicted to Mina, but and she was looked, she actually was going to win, and then Sush banks interfered. Yeah, such banks wasn't there. We would have been correct. But I think this Matt Yeah, this match, it was okay. It was bit of to mean as a powerhouse,...

...and then Bailey's bit scared and then Bailey like targets a leg and she is mad. But I think with the result of this win, I think to me and will stay in the picture, but I think they'll focus. Something will happen, Sash will turn and Bailey and then they'll be a bailey such banks rivalry, and then I think sush banks will be the one to take the championship from Bailey, which I think what happened in the future. I can't really see the to me, a thing going off much longer, like I don't really know why. Oh yeah, I'd guess in the next couple weeks, like maybe there's a tag team with like lacy into men a verse banks and Bailey and something happens. But yeah, that storyline. I can't see it ending in any other way than banks turning on Bailey, which I look forward to and I thank a commentator. I did. They were had like an interview backstage shows before they went out, and she did say that Bailey has been like not letting, not helping Sasha win matches, and I we it did. It did seem to get to Sasha bit because Bailey went out first and shit, it wait there for a bit. So I do see Sasha banks turning to get the championship off Bailey. Yeah, so we were wrong in that prediction. I'll be honest. Over the weekend I was kind of thinking about our predictions and I I did question that one and I even said before they came out that I was like, I actually don't think to be in all in this. But yeah, she's close. But the thing that put me off no championship change hands, which I was banking on in my predictions. So that really threw me off, I guess. But but you don't need a title Jay in a money in the bank or like a raw run will pay. Yeah, you don't really need title changes because everyone's just came for the main event. Yeah, all right. So next was Braun strowman and bray will roll. What we yeah, it was pretty and I was another, I think, another average match. It was. It wasn't the feend this time. I was actually just bray whine. But I think they will continue their rivalry, because definitely, but I think this time it will be the fiend vest Braun Strowman, because I think bray white will be gone in the matches against Broun and the fen will come out, because during that when he lost who had they were like flashing back to the fiend. Yeah, I thought this was just an average match between the two of them. Nothing and special. He came back as the black sheep halfway through the match, but then he squashed anyone after he's question. I think I saw ch a tear on Bray's cheek after the match, like I did. Said think he was crying. I did, said it was sold. I thought Braun was back, like I thought brawn and Bray, we're going to come and Juo. No, I did not. I didn't like that. I was like they would not, and then when they were hugging and stuff, I was like, you know, I want a turn. I knew looked him by now. I knew from the start that he was just gonna he's pretending to do it and then he would have. I knew he was going to take the mask off and like rip it or something and stomp on it. Yeah, I definitely, as you said, that I definitely do think this storyline will progress. Yeah, this is it will because, yeah, as you said, it's kind of like Bray White's tried to bring brawl back and as he's failed, I think the FEM will yeah, punishing, basically. Did we get that prediction right? Yeah, we guess. We guess. Bron I think. So, decent match, but nothing special. Yeah, now, drew McIntyre, this Seth Roland. Drew McIntyre retained I think we both predicted drew to win. Yeah, we did. Yeah, I predicted till a crazy school match. Yeah, it was actually a good match too. Was a bit of back and forth. I like drew because he doesn't he's not someone to throw his finish away. His finisher actually here in the uses once and probably every match, and it is knocks people out and it's like a good finisher. is they show it's a good finisher because every time he does it he wins the match and he is resilient...

...like he seth was doing like two finishers and he was still kicking out it like one. So it shows that he's a force to be reckon with. Yeah, it was really it was really good match. I thought this storylines over. I think seth, I think the Messiah. I think the Messiah storylines coming to a close, because at the end they did have that handshake and I think in Seth's eyes, I think he's going to become going back to being maybe a face instead of a heel. Yeah, be clause. I think us. Drew showed set that he has honor. So they I don't think they will wrestle again. So I don't know who is in dreamcentire's future, but I don't see it being seth rollins. I definitely think seth's done for the title picture, but I'm not completely sold the Monday narm size over and now I think it's coming to a close, though. Yeah, I don't know. I just think the whole like Buddy Murphy, think the last two weeks. Like I feel like that has something to play out, because what would they do with Buddy Murphy if this is like the last time? And maybe maybe out it, maybe Otis will face true macatie. We never know. So thats a or our match. Seth had a new theme song which I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty today. Yeah, it was David Tonight. I didn't really it was our own rent. I prefer. That's another thing which maybe suggest you stick going to change. Yeah, they just added because, yeah, out of one night. But yeah, I definitely think him and drew macktize over. Yeah, they they are done. And now the two money in the banks do money in the bank simultaneously. We got both predictions wrong, but I don't think that's really shocked when you know who won the men's. Will start with the women's. Well, we'll just talk about them together because I would well, I thought what it did you write the match or I thought it was. It was fun. It was, it was, it was different. It was it was obviously filmed prior I think all I think all the other matches were live. But then I think they because I saw in the top recorder said live. So I think they filmed the first six match, six matches. Yeah, six matches, and I think they would have finished at drew macintisa throns and then they just would have well, they would have added the think filmed footage, like I think I'll taken like it might have been done a couple days ago, but like it would have maybe all been filmed in one go. Yeah, I don't know, I feel like but the obviously the money in the bank. The money in the bank was the money back was in life. But I do think maybe that the other matches were what I've I'm not sure. Yeah, I predicted night jacks to win close followed by Shanea base a, shinabates little really wasn't in the picture. was kind it was between Oscar lacy and I in the end because they were the only three on the top of the ring at the end. And Yeah, I thought it was. It was fun. Tho Is. There was food fire, there was like there was they were doing unique things with the stuff around the headquarters to like they threw people off the build team. Yeah, it was peace. Rest in peace right. But yeah, I thought it was a bit of fun. I was really disappointed with ask a winning because I don't know, I thought I thought naijacks really had a strong story that I came up with. Naijacks going for Bailey, Not Bailey Becky Lynch's title sat because She's never faced beat in Nai Jackson. BECKY's talking about how she's been every single girl on the roster. So I thought that was an interesting and she came back just from injury this past month, so I thought she was going really strong. And then ask a one. So I don't really know what title she's going to go for because she has faced she faced Becky at at Royal Rumble and Becky beat Oscar. So they're kind of she might, she might go.

She has to go for becky because backing doesn't really have anyone in her sides. Yeah, because I feel like that Bailey Sacha banks thing will go unless through, but she might go first saving that for a bit. So they will use to me and for another couple weeks and a school come challenge. But then again, Um, I think it's not like it's an organized match, like she can just cash it in when it was. Yeah, I think. I think. I think Niah Jacks. I think we'll have a rivalry with becky lunch even not winning their money in the bank, I think, because I think Bailey is occupied. I think she'll still be having beefoot to MENA. But then finally sushill's snap over this past month and then they'll have a rivor it right, match up, backlash and then I think it will be a NIA jacks versus becky. At becky had a backlash and then I think Asko will cash in against Becky and Becky will find or Becky or I and she'll finally lose her title after a year. I think she she'll lose it eventually. She's had a free year. I Reckon Shane also be in it, but yeah, might be triple her like. Also, I think it would be stupid if they just let Shanne it disappear into the background after some yeah, but I think six months. Yeah, I think Niah Jacks though, will have the spotlight just coming back from, yeah, Drin, having all this mayhem with defense. So period. But I think Shanea will also be in the picture for Becky. Might be a triple threat match. Yeah, I think Lacy Evans will start going back into the pitch with Bailey. cush out a little segment when she was like I'm taking Bailey down. So there might be to me, I might go away and then lacy might come into the picture for that one and then that. Yeah, so I think that will happen also. I reckon. I reckon, maybe not for both, but I definitely only reckon one. Of the money in the banks is she'll be held for a bit longer. Yeah, I think WHO's? Last year, pretty sure both were cast in with well Bailm was cash in on the night. Yeah, Bailey's especial problersne cast in like a month later. Yeah, I don't reckon. One of them will be held a bit longer this year. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. It's hard to hold them back, though, because it's like everyone's like, oh, it's ask a good cashing tonight. Yeah, and then on to the Aska one. Yeah. Yeah, now on to the men's Otis one, which this is. This is our ages. I did not know. Well, we guess to do with this. We I predicted Alice to black and he obviously got these dead. He's dead. He got thrown off the building, so I will not be seeing him. So I really king. Corbin actually, over the past like three days, was one of the front runners and he almost won it and I was going to be like, surely not, and then Aj styles was wrestling himself like I just I was going to win, and then AJ styles grabbed it, but he fumbled it out of his hands and it landed in Otis's hands at the bottom of the ladder, and Otis won the match. See, I don't I don't know. He has to be, but I can't see him as a tight title owner. Yeah, honestly, and he like he's in Attag t. But I feel like maybe AJ styles will have a rivalry against Otis and they might have a match for the money in the bank, like contract, because he might argued that he had the contract and in his point actually without it being attached to the like the rope, and so they might have a match for that. NHSTARS might win it or Otis might become a singles title champion, which might be very weird, or he might cash it in and be UN yeah, unsuccessful. So and say that today there reckon. We'll just be like a comedy thing where it is cashes it and gets bashed and loose. Yeah, I think that's I think that's how I think that's highly possible. I think. I think asks would definitely be successful, but I think Otis is might be...

...just for comedy, but it's money in the banks. Six. So if they wasted on a cheap gap. But I think not sure about yeah, honest. But it was also it was also a good match. There was there was some random things, like, yeah, there was those Jackson freaking odors. Had that moment over like the sandwich or something. Oh yeah, and then there was there was some like hall of fame is just strolling around through the headquarters. And then there's the beef in the Vince Wick man offers and then those that asnny. There's the undertaker room where a just does got looked in the undertake a room. Guy, I thought it was. Guy Thought it was. It was entertaining to watch. What did you think? Yeah, actually really enjoyed it. I much preferred it to the firefly fun fire Fly Fun House match and the Graveyard match at wrestle mania. If I'm honest, people were saying it was like very chaotic and it was a bit too much going on at once. Yeah, there wasn't really care. Now I didn't. I've remember his realistically, if they had like a slow shot of the wrestling, it was dull because there's no space in a corridor. And Yeah, got a well this star go upstairs and stuff. At the start, when the the men were in the gym fighting and the camera is moving like a lot, I was like, Oh, this going to be a lot of camera movies and very chaotic. But I think they figured it out during the match and it became quite easy to follow. I thought, yeah, start so funny when like Daniel Brown walked in, as if it's like oh the boy, he's like all right, that's how we asked. It was just like chilling. She just went in the elevator and disappeared for like twenty minutes. Yeah, I thought's yeah, I don't know, and then the whole day of Brook thing, Dana Brook was just a gag in the whole thing. Yeah, she's just like it around. It's just like threw that artwork and then she likes slipped over the Jack. It's just like this, the shit one. Yeah, just so that's all the money in the bank. Matches. I actually quite enjoyed the pay per view. Yeah, it's good pay for you. Yeah, just quickly, just as a little prediction for the future so we can look back on it. Who Do you think? The hackers? I smack down? No, I dear. Yeah, but I think we'll find out. Should they won't go on for two months with this gimmings before. So they'll. They'll. I reckon now this person will have a rivalry against one, maybe drew mcintire, because drew mcintire is really no one to wrestle right now, because I don't think he'll wrestle Soth Rolands, because I think that's rollands was just a bit of Fur. You can find him for now. So I think it will. The truth person will fight. I reckon drew McIntyre because he's the only one that's not really if it's if the truth person's a male, he's the only one that's not really occupied. Or if it's a female, it could vest becky. Well Him. I'm not even like going to the title picture. He might be, you character or something. I've done some research and I've found some names people thrown out, the male ones, Miss Stuff Ali. Yeah, that would make sense because he's he's colors that he uses on his face mark and hand thing, and apparently in like nxt he was like a bit of a hucker or something at some stage. And then I also saw someone suggest the ICONICS, because they've kind of disappeared in the past few months and they're a tag team and a lot of the videos in the little vignette were about tag teams. So I think would. Yeah, that's also a good point. Also, I think in Myso's is just another now I think my stuff Ali's death. I reckon most of them. It makes my sense. He's not Chris Jericho. Why is Jack? Because when he were, before he left, he was in like the big title picture. So it makes sense for him to come back and then maybe returned back to the big title picture. And I think he hasn't. Obviously he hasn't been in the WWE for a while. So then bringing him back with this new gimmick I think...

...makes all other sense. Yeah, and yeah, he definitely makes the most sense. I don't really care who it is as long as it's something interesting, like if it's someone who's just like absolutely myth on the lower card, like a lot of wasted time on those bloody videos each week. Yeah, so, yeah, that's pretty much it will throw it back to future, future goodlooking roosters, Hamshin, Campbell of June two thousand and twenty. Hopefully coronavirus hasn't taken you, but yeah, stay safe, boys love, take it away. Thanks that, Campbell and Hamish, you sexy roosters. You are looking my fine. I think we called ourselves sexy's in the past as well. Say So, just a bit of love throwing around for ourselves, you saucy one. So today we don't really have anything look and a rosy to talk about. So there's an nxt takeover event called in your house, I think it's. Don't actually I want to do with because I was going to say it's probably to do with the fact that it's streaming, like everything is. Yeah, I guess in Your House. Yet they're doing for hasn't? Is the crowd back? And I don't think it is. There's like also thirty people and it's a full sale university which is where they record every nxt. So I guess it's like their own house. It's their home ground. There's like twenty people in the Ork, twenty two, like maybe thirty, and there's a big class protector between the wrestlers and the fans. So we'll we'll just run through the match and they early as the end it's they're just standing there, just like social distancing. But so we'll just quickly run through those matches at the end of this. So that's occurring on Monday next week. Got Backlash, which will have its own episode. Do our backlash predictions, run through the matches, what we think will happen, what we think the result resulting months will incur. But today we're just going to have a general chat about the great world of pro wrestling, as the Great Dennis Robins, looking at southern Americans, say wrestling. So this is I've been watching wrestling over the past month. I've been watching, actually two months, maybe even three. I've been watching since last years wrestle mania and I'm going to try and watch up to this, like the current point, and then just kick on because I was I was going to just watch from after this year's wrestle mania, but I felt like I didn't know any of the characters well enough and stuff. So I've I went back a year to try and understand why stuff had a curd and stuff like that. And one thing that everyone says, but I also felt this as well, I find nxt is way better than raw and smackdown. So we're just kind of a little bit of chat about whether you agree and if so, why. So do you think next is better than Rawing's backdown? M N Next? Yeah, yeah, probs. You're definitely not often that. I don't know. Two props to your death. Yeah, well, they why do you think? I think they have the the freedom to to be creative and do whatever they want, whereas we're in spectrum of kind of put themselves into a box where it's like a nicely produced wrestling TV show and there's not really any good matches and it's all just matches to boost up a upandcoming superstar or some like, for example, like Shamus, who's just been doing bad matches so he can look be better. But nxt there's all and the champions. They don't really have a fight, which is interesting. They only fight during them at the peper...

...views. Well, I'm in Charlotte fights now, but I think that's weird. They shouldn't done that, but whatever. Yeah. Well, I think they wanted to make anext want to become an ECW situation where it's three brands instead of two, which I think is that, which is I think is the thing now. I think it's not just run smack and I think it's Ross smackdown and then next. I think they made that clear with survivor series. How they won survivor series, for I think they will. They won survivor series they like sweept it, like the girls one and the boys one. The survivor series matches and I think that became clear that nxt is bell brand and they also got on TV as opposed to just being on the wowe network, which is a clear decision. Will Not a decision from owe but from the network that next is popular enough to have its own time slot on the air. Yeah, for me, originally when I thought of this, I was like takeovers the definitely better than Dodo paid for us, but I was sure about the weekly shows. But now you've you were just running talking through it and I the nxt shows are definitely better so what I think it is is especially raw, not so much smackdown, but raw, crams so much into their they're like three hour times and everything that's a rate is three hours is so long. But it's like there's genuinely half the time like eight matches or something. And do like talk shows and it's like we don't want to seems and Morrison on a talk show, like I don't give a crap. And it's so much more predictable than nxt, like you've seen it all before really on rule. Where next try and do new stuff with their storylines, like, as you just said, with the there's so much stuff where it's like Miss TV will have someone on or Alexa Bliss show will have someone on and you just know it's going to end in a little scrap. The security guards of the rest come out stop them, or let's talk this match at the pay per view. Yeah, yeah, nexte just pretty a lot more authentically runch facktown up, predictable. Where is an exs? Still a bit predictable, but not as predictable. Yeah, and also I just think the rest, and as you said, there's a lot of matches, half the matches on raw and smackdown. It just to get someone over. So just be seone against a round o winning in two minutes. Where nxt that rarely happens. Only if it's like someone's debut or they're coming back from injury or something. Yeah, and just the wrestling in general on nxt is a lot better. Some of the moves they do their it's more exciting. It's more exciting, as you say, it's not as old school. Yeah. So there's just so many reasons. And then when it comes to the pay per views, I think they have. They have. It's an advantage. Van Next, I have to say they only have four or five a year, which is an absolute advantage, and they were having one each month in the doubt at wall the mainstream wwe. They run out of ideas. Yeah, so like just called things like backlash, but there it's just like matches. Yeah, all like the Saudi Arabian pay per views. Like, let's be real, they just shit. where. Where is it be like it's like you, only if you row in. smackdown wants to be better, they would. There is have Wrestlemania, rumble survivor series, summerslam and like maybe and maybe two more something Mommy and bean true and elimination chamber, but the spread those out like evenly and it makes them so much more epic. And I think I don't know the inner workings of the wrestling but I think it allows and well, I'll just assume this is like this, like because there's like three months in between takeovers. I'm sure like a month before takeover they know what's going to happen so they can start practicing that match like a...

...month there. Yeah, where? Because in the Dodo it's only like there's like a paper every three weeks or something like. I feel like they'd only have and I think. I feel like we're in smackdown of getting lengthy. Like I've seen lots of matches over the past few days and they've all ended up in roller pins. And then I was actually watching a WW's ww video and I was reading the comments and someone was like, I swear narrow days, just every match ends up in a Rollerup Pin, and I was thinking about it and literally every match a week ends in a rollerup pin and that just doesn't really happen in an extem that I think. Yeah, and another thing I've noticed, just like everyone says, everyone wants like it's a big thing in wrestling to be a wrestling champion. They always go on about it. They was bragg out brock for never wrestling in their actual weekly shows and stuff. But I'll be honest, I actually disagree. Like I think it makes it cooler when they don't wrestle as much. Like you've got people like Seth Rolls, who genuinely wrestles every single I think he wrestlers every day. So it makes it when you see seth rollings on a pay per view it's like, well, this isn't that cool, because I see it all the freaking time. We're someone like Adam Cole. He wrestles a lot, but it's not nowhere near every week. Yeah, and he's but the thing is they do it well. He's not on it a wrestling every week, but his presence is always there. Yeah, coming out cutting promos. He'll come out and help the undisputed era in other matches, like you'll come and interrupt another match. So I think the main stars on the Dodo roster wrestle too much. Yeah, because it takes away they during their energy. Yeah, it takes away they've been smart with backlash. There's edge, but edge versus Randy Ordum, and those two haven't wrestled all month. They've just been making promos against each other. Yeah, which I think is a smarter idea. But, like it's smart. But let's be real, those two performers. Like I think it would be elite if they did that for all the wrestlers. But, like Batista and Edge, Randy and an edge their older. So they're probably not going to produce like a high flying, high paced match. Yeah, they're going to. That's more stamina, base match. I like that promotion style, as you were saying. Yeah, just shit talk. So final verdict, nxt is better. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, all right. So next little question I wanted to talk about. So our brother, bit of a boomer when it comes to life, likes old music, like actually, sportsman, that's not I mean that is booming, but I also that's some boom. I like old musical or yeah, but yeah, you your people who like have historical bias. You like things gone, which is fair enough, like of most people do. To be fair. I like odd music, though. I agree with them. But yeah, he's Helas he professed, things that were in the past and now. Yeah, so and he's he's made this mention. He's mentioned this a couple times recently, and he said that the wwe superstars nowadays are just they're just like a myths, basically, like they're not household names, they're not iconic as opposed to people from the s and the two thousands that we grew up with. And agree. Do you agree? Yeah, why do you think that is? Well, I think there's so many superstars nowadays that it's it's hard to keep pump and there's so many superstars ww he is wanting to push, and there's so many contenders for so many titles and it's just so much, so many names to cram in, that it's hard for the wwe community to keep up and we it's we just keep track of, honestly, the champions and the contenders. It's hard to keep track of like, Oh, what was that person's name in the tag team championships, whereas later days they...

...would it would be a massive rivalry, like this huge rivalry between these two between superstars, for over like half, half a year and even more, and they would put produce and I think wrestling has become the same thing, whereas back then it was new and fresh, so it was exciting for people to watch. So those people who were wrestling, they become household names because they were extravagant and they were good in the art form and I think they also had fresh ideas, fresh characters like John Cena. That was fresh, the rock that was fresh, like as back stand, cal was fresh bark, ricky steambay was fresh bark, Hul Koger and joy the giant. And nowadays it's just like I'm just another restaurant who wears speedos just kicks the shit out of people. Yeah, there's nothing special about the people these days. Yeah, it is true, there's like a limited amount of characters you can have really, but I disagree with it to a certain extent. I think it's impossible to say this right now because we could look go ten years down the track and we could say this again. We could be like God, the people of two and thirty do not compare to the people of two thousands S, two thousand and ten, two thousand and twenty. So I think it's really hard to call in the moment, but I reckon there's not. There's probably not as many people who will be iconic just because I don't think wrestlings is popular in mainstream culture as it wasn't like the late s early s. like everyone knows his stone cold as. Everyone knows who the rock is. Everyone knows who John Seenor is. Everyone knows who the undertakers where. I don't think everyone knows his seth rollins is. No, no one knows who Roman rains is. No one knows who how cold is. No one. But yeah, Charlotte flare is. Yeah, I agree, but in terms of actual in the wrestling fandom, I think that it will be just the same as iconic, maybe less numbers, because go down in history is like famous people. But I can't really see how seth rollings, Kevin Owens, I don't know, Daniel Bryant, Dandel Brown will definitely Roman reigns like. I think they're all going down on the same level as like a Batistah Edge, a ray mysteria, even like I reckon, because the thing is I feel like there's a generation led just UN like a lower pedistal than those cite types of potentially, I just think it's hard to say in the moment. It could be true like Seth Rolands has literally have everything in his ww crew handed to him. Like at the start of these career he worked with the WWE authority, so that's why he always got all these title opportunities. So it wasn't exciting for him. But hoaster was with evolution and randy orders with ever evolution. So you can argue that as well. Yeah, but that wasn't a wwe authority. Well, they were just like a squhy, like they kind of just one because they're like Rick Flair. And yet we don't really have any like underdog stories. So it's like Ray mysterio, he comes in number two, royal rumble makes it all the way through, wins and wins. At wrestling. It's not it's exciting as it used to be. Yeah, because our eyes are just, like I s, just used to what we see. Yeah, so I definitely think I would be less iconic wrestles, but I definitely think some are going down as famous as those guys. But I also think there's been a generational switch in the last five years where a new generations come in and now most of the big guys are actually really young, like Seth Rollings, reigns, Adam Cole, like Velveteen Dreams, like twenty three like these guys have another ten, fifteen years in them, so they could have like in fifteen years we could be laughing at...

...the fact that this was even a conversation. We're like in two thousand and fifteen. I feel like it was still wrestlers of the past generation like just hanging on, like John seen or stuff. So, yeah, I don't know. It's something we'll just have to basically wait and see. Almost it's hard to know, but I don't really think it's valid point. But I also definitely think it has something to do with just wwe not being is popular and mainstream culture or, and I think they do it as I was talking, they really booster to superstars up type this message rivalry, whereas like Seth Rowans these days they just throw random competitors at him. So it doesn't make him a household name, it doesn't make the matches he's interesting, it doesn't make the matches he's in memorable. So then you remember and then you tell your friend I this match was amazing, then they go watch it, then they tell a friend in the chain continues. So then he becomes a household name. Most of the matches here in are goold, but like they're not as good as matches in the part later days. Yeah, and also another thing that has to be considered. I think nowadays, with the Internet and like globalization, likes, I can watch Japan wrestling I like. I feel like they will be icons not just in Dodou e, like I like. I'm not the biggest wrestling fan and I actually know if you guys from New Japan wrestling, I know if you guys in all elite wrestling, and then there's also like there's obviously people who've come from those places to wwe and vice versus. So I feel like will probably get to know they'll be more iconic people from not just owe but all over the world. Yes, pretty much all I've got on that. Where same, it's basically one. We're just going to have to wait and see. Now I'm just going to let's just quickly run through the this. Sorry about this episode. It'sn't got my structure to it's just a casual chat about wrestling. He had a not so we're just I'm just going to run through what we have gotten store for us on Monday at an xt takeover. I think it's Monday. We're anext takeovers on Oh yeah, no, this one's on Sunday. I think they might be on Saturday when the it's the same. They usually before it debut. Yeah, this one's a standalone, so I guess net maybe they're trying to move away and then after it. I just want to do something with you that they do on the Maddie John's podcast. It's random. I'm not prepared for it, but I just want to see. I'll take a shot. So I got Trans to talking child carry on cross I'll be honest, don't know who carry on crosses as I appearing to yet, as I was just watching a top ten and Exhi video room before and he was just like a high flying I don't know. It was like a high flying kind of it was like a seth rowlands kind of structure for guy. Yeah, honestly, I know who and I camp say I don't get too Massa Chamber, like everyone faking frost him and when he came back from injury last year, I like I've watched it the other day because I'm up to about that time. I thought he's going to be this insane wrestler like Adam Cole level, but he it like I don't really get. What the fuss is there, to be honest? You See, yeah, next Charlotte Flavors Ripley ves EO shrive and next two hums championship. They'll be late. Yeah, I want Charlotte flet loser. Yeah, I wanted to lose it, but I don't know if she'll lose it so quickly. They gave a tween. They went let her lose it. That that's mean. They'll be good, though. They're actually like three of the best wrestlers female wrestlers on yeah, I think the combined rosters. Other I want a ring a ring a pro. I want to win, but I wouldn't be mad if I won. Yeah, and the next got Finn Bail vistamian priest, and I'll be will be really good match. Yeah, both good wrestlers, but I can't say I really care who. Nice flying much. Yeah. Then we got Adam Cole versus Velveteen Dream...

...for the nxt championship. If velveteen dream loses, he can no longer challenge for the Nxt Championship, while Cole is still champion. Sal Much. I'm very excited for this match. I think. I think the belt and dreams. I honestly think calls such a good rest. Adam Cole has hit the championship for so long time. Change, I think it. He would change it because they won't. Let I've wrestle like velveteen dream not be able to challenge for the nxt championship. Yeah, while Adam calls champion, I just don't think that happened. I think you'll have to Adam call will loser. Yeah, I actually agree with you there. I reckon. It's velveteen time. Adam Coles had it for like also, he just your. I think Everton just came back to the as well. Yeah, recently. Yeah, so he'll, he'll get it. Yeah, I love velveteen dreams so much. She's characters so cool, so different. Next, Keith leave versus Johnny Gargano for the North American title. I don't, I don't just go Keith Lee, Keith Lee, the big, the big concert. I know the background to this. I'll back in Johnny Gargano. Just be different. It should be a good match. So big boy bitch. Yeah, I can't say I'm not the bigs fan of candy, but I know Johnny Cagna interesting of wrestler, but Johnny Gargano or make it a good match. I don't know. He's said about guy now dumb doing it. And then next I don't know if there's any match to be added after this, but we've got a six women tag team match. Me, M shotsie black art and Tiagua knocks, vers Ken Slow A, Dakota Kai and Raquel Gonzalez. I'll be honest, I know some of them, not all of them. Wait, it's taking knocks wrestling. Yeah, yeah, her team win, I can yeah, or to Kadakis. Well, they're only two teams. Isn't it a three way? Oh, that's through. Be Through Three Code of Kai, and I mean not just kind of carded to watch it. Basically, I think. Take a knocks. Yeah, so I haven't I'll be. I haven't watched an xt this month, but I'm what I'm tuning in for this Monday morning on the network. Excited for it should be good. I'm not, hopefully, because I'm respecting the queen's birthday. I'm having a twenty four is twenty four hours celebration for Her Majesty. I re arranged during this weekend. So hopefully, for Solis, Her Majesty, I'm taking a twenty four hour dedication, a my savage for rearranging shooting just to watch takeover in backlash. Damn. And next seas, the lifestyle. I thought I was a savage. Yeah. So next we're going to do it the eliminator. So I'll give you two names. It's like winners stays on. So I'll give you two namess like what Ellen degenerous, and you say the person who we are moving, and then I give you another one and basically yet so the winners stays on. I'll give you like a I'm just thinking on the spot here. I'm going musical acts. Let's start big queen, all the Beatles, Queen Queen or Abba, apper Abba, all beyonce Abber Abba or Doge Count Abba Orlizzo, apper Abber, a little mix. It could be other Abba, Kus I ABBA ABBA will post alone, Abba Abba. I need to think of a good one here to stump Abba. What do you like listening to? Yeah, I'm saving the BIG AG for last. OBBER or lady Gaga, but is that be a second? Probably. Well, sorry, I'll wrap it up. A BA or Ariana Grande on a run...

...a all right around the grand day it is. That's pretty much. It's been a random episode, but it's just been fun kicking back chat and super so it's not Super Friday. Friday night footy starts in eight minutes, so pretty exam for that. got a chase Campbell down and tipping because he's on top of you're not on top anymore, but you're on top of me. No, well, I'm tired for I know I'm second now. Yeah, margin took a bit of a battering last night. Yeah, so this is coming out Saturday, episode twenty. So I for tired for the last. I'm tired for second. It says I'm bad, but I'm tired for second. Yeah, so this is Saturday's episode. So enjoy the rest of your weekend if you're listening to it on the weekend, if you're listening to it after the weekend, enjoy your week next episode is going to be NFL predictions on the NFC conference, so tuning for that and we've got a few other videos coming. We've got an interview with myself. My parents will be interviewing me. We're got Dodo backlash predictions and then we'll also be doing NFL predictions for the AFC. Thanks for tuning. In See.

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