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Episode 6 · 1 year ago

Women's Tennis - Episode 5

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The host, Hamish MacCorquodale, is once again joined by his younger brother, Campbell, and new guest to the show, Josh Brown, to talk all things women's tennis in the past decade including a breakdown of our individual top 10 players.

Hswelcome back to episode fivetehonable podcast today I have two guests with me: First of all, my littlebrother Cambell, his back hello and a new guest to the to the podcastJosh Brown, welcome hello, happy to be here so so you're, the second nonfamilyguest, so quiet, be on onor and Campbell's. Back he's got ta he'sgoot a range of interest Campbell from marvel movies to women's tennis. I doI'm a complex guy all right, so I just gave a littlespoiler there, but we are talking about women's tennis today, given that it'stwo thousand a twenty. We have just obviously finished a decade, so we havegone and ranked our top ten well, who we think is the top ten best women'stennis players of that decade. So just talk a bit a little bit about yourtennis, fanship Brownie. How big of a tennis fan you I'm a very big tennisfan. I must say: I've been following. The two are pretty closely on both themen's and women side, since probably the started probably around twothousand and Teno Thousand Levens. When I started follwing it closely so say that I've, a pretty decentknowledge of the events of the last decade, been following it prettyclosely so yeah. It was really interesting to lookback and assess, see, what's happened and try rank them quite a difficulttask. To be honest. toot me a while, but we've got there yeah, I'm Joye asell. Can How about you? How big into tennis are you? Well, I go on and offwith tennis, but more of flike the female side of tennis, because I findthe female side very much more interesting, because the men's is ruledby Tedal, Jokovich and federal. So I find that there's always those wildwild card, female tennis players that can sometimes get into the finals andwin like Kennon. Did this year, yeah yeah, it's it's a crazy sport, women'stennis. It's almost completely different to the man's tennis landscape.At the moment, as you were saying, dominit dominated by three people, sowe're just going to go through we're going to start at number ten and workour way down to number one. We all have made our separate list, but I assumethey're going to be pretty similar, so when one of US brings up one of theplayers well just say where we rank them and why we ranked them there andso on so forth. So let's just get started so cam. You want to start usoff with your number ten mates. Sure my number ten was an early decade pick.Her name is Ukim Christis Yeah. She racked up to Grand Slam, wins she got.She won the Australian Open in two thousand ad eleven and she also won the US Open. Unfortunately, she had someinjury, so she had to leave the game, but she did't come backthis year. Not She didn't do as well this year, but I thought she playedvery well for the time that she was in her peak and she snashed the competition winning a titlein two tousandand ten and winning a title in Two Thousand and eleven. Do you have her branny? No, she justmissed out. She was actually my number eleven number eleven pick, my ownerSheas, going to be my honorable mention I just couldn't like she had the two grand slans, whichyou know yeah, there's not ten of them.

We have two grand slamps in e decade,that's for sure, but the fact that she retired, probably halfway through twothousand and twelve, and he actually played for a quarter of the decade. Ifound it struggled to reward her over someone who may didn't have as manydidn't have the Grand Slam credentials as she did, but had the consistency of the entiredecade. So yeah. That's why I left her out yeah, I'm pretty civilar like I amwilling to accept. She was probably better in two thousand and ten elevenand twelve and some of my people, my top ten for sure but yeah. I just kindof favored long, gemity and yeah, but I can definitely see how she was in there.She was. I just made this list before and I had about a list of twenty fiveand I just cut out the people who weren't going to make my ten and shewas like. Third down on the list that got cut so she would have been aroundmy twelve or Thirteenh Bu Yi see how she was en number ten. She had. She waspretty dominant in those early few years of this dam in two thousand andten twenty lemon shes. Definitely one of the top runners when it came tothe Grand Slams. If you did hold number one ranking forone week in the yeah, probably couldn't toppl Lik, Serena and showpover andstuff, but yeah yeah. She had so. As you said, she had the two grandslinwhen she also had a WTA end of year. Championship win and she also had acheeky premier, mandatory and Premier Five victory, so nice little resume.She had there for sure would be in the top ten forthe decade. Previous though, because she performed consistently over thatentire decade, pretty much it's one of the top players, so mis toutowll, missoff or me on this one buch definitely been the two housand one, so yeah,obviously like shatered tennis is not on at the moment for many reasons, buthim classes returned. It was actually one of the main reasons why I wasshouted because she had a tough start to the return in terms of like who shehad to face, but I was keen to see how she went yeah the rest of the year, but yes, not to be, maybe she'll beback next year. If it, I assume it's going to not return to next year, butyeah yeah doing there. Who Do you have at number Tember Anny? I have AGNEESCA.WOULD ONE SCIT my number ten? She was just super consistent over thedecade. She was never number one one of the few people in tmy top ten and everGOTC number one, and also the only person in my top ten Ho didn't win aGrand Slam. So that's why I was tossing an Turnin over her and Clyssis, becauseAgyese had the rid once ga had the consistency over the entire decade. Shewas in the top ten. I think she was in the top ten and for the end of year,six years in a row and made a grant. Maybe grand son final world number twotwite two separate occasions and also top ten six is in a row, so I ended upjust rewarding that. He also want ad world to affils and five premiermanatory or five titles, so yeah I gave her the no number ten spot over classesjust because of that consisteny over the large portion of the last decade yeah. She was my number nine prettymuch. The same reason just consistent I'd, say: I'd, compare her to like aDavid Frar in the men's game like yeah was always good enough to easily winlike international tournaments and always like be up there for premiertournaments. But when it came to like the Grand Slams and stuff, she didn'treally quite have it. You know to like beat the powerful players like yeahArena Williams or like even Patrick, of Videva, but yeah, genuine LEGENDOF, thegame, probably a personal favorite as well yeah same for me as well. I thinkshe wan I WTA short of the year, maybe like five or six years in a row, alwaysproducing some entertaining shots yeah...

...and it's pretty impressive. How she hadsuch a good career- and I feel like her first, her average first serv speed-would have been something like one fifty or for yeah. So she's didn't havetoo much size or strength, but she's, very skillful player and deserving ofher spot in this list. So she was myubenine. Did you have a CAM or not?No, she was, I think she was. I had fourteen female ttenis players because I wasjust writing names down the female tennis place. I remember that didreally well yeah. She just missed out. She would have been an honorablemention yeah it just. I think, with her. I justdepends how strongly you take Grand Lams, because obviously yeah, if youwere saying classes had to run, Fan CA, zero, which is quite a big differencefor a lot of people but yeah. For me, she was enough. She did enough and wasconsistent enough to get in the top ten. So she was my nine,your ten Brownie Yep. So now my ten, I actually didn't think this lady was going to make my ten, but justthe starts can't really lie. I had Gabinya Megaa, yes of Spain, she her eyes, ranking wasnumber one. She was only there for four weeks, so just a short little vacationat the number one spot. She pretty much played the whole decade. She turned pro march, two thousand andtwelve, so she's pretty much a main stay, her ranking as fluctuated quite a bit,she's been up and down like a yyo but out of at a prime. She had she came. Third, I think it was in twothousand and sixteen year and ranking she was third and then two thousand andeighteen. She was like second or something. So she had a couple reallygood years. In there she had two grand sland victories, which I think one at Wimbledon and onFrench Open, Yep, yeah one as last year, whatshoul Wimblethem twith last year.Wimbledin was, I want to say no last E, it was twsan and seventeen, I want tosay maybe Pe Sixteen Bich Seren Williams in the final yeah. That was animpressive scalf yeah that you're a two thousand and seventeen, and then theFrench was two thousand and sixteen. So you could probably say that'sdefinitely when she was peeking, but then she made the final this year ofthe Yals Open. So she might be back. I think she got a new coach or somethingshe' brought her old coach back. So the coach, the broader to the two GrandSlam titles she left hasn't had her as a coach or a couple of years and thenjust brought her back the starte of this year and and then she made the funof the IUSTRALIAN Open, so probably a good decision, considering her lack ofform the last year or two yes, so she is definitely a big tournament playerlike she is made to well shes one two grand slamsmade a final and also been knocked out out in the semis at another one, butshe's only one, two premie mentre premier fives and she doesn't have asingle final appearance in a Premier Tournament and she is one threeinternational tornents on the tour which is not bad, but it's compared tosome of the other people in this list. It's not as good, so she is dominant inthe big tournaments. A bit like the William Sisters, but doesn't reallygrind on the tour like some of the others but yeah, so she made my ten. Iwas very shocked. To be honest, I didn't think she was going to make itbut yeah she did yeah. I had Mugarusas my number nine,so okay yeah, so we ad just rid one godn moogers a swopped around there. Ijust thought the reasoning was just Redwanska was more consistent. That mugerus aredefinitely over the decade, but those two grands Lam titles just got got herover the line for me and also getting the number one ranking, which issomething th that rod ones gool so...

...doesn't have so e. I just got mug IAStight, but Moogrews Mougeris had just got over ID once go for me in the endand Mougruza I reckon definitely could have been up higher if SSHE had beenable. Shedn't even justn't even need to have any more Grand Slam. Titleslooking at the rest of the players, but if you just keep, if you wasconsistently in the top ten throughout the last five years, rather thanflutuating, she could be up there on the top five, but just judo. Someinconsistencies sus down at number nine for me, yeah all right, so can did youave, mergares or in the mix or not atle? No, she was actually Kim and Mugaruzawere actually changing between the number ten spot, but I just picked Kimbecause her consistency, even though she had injury. Her consistency in thefirst three years of the decade were better than hes over the ten years,because she had ra, MOS, dance, yeah random point. I actually thinkmurderersa was Kim's first match on her comeback, its just true yeah. It was inlike the entefy Doar, one of those yeah, so cam you're on Footmgrusi yeah. Moving onto your number nine have wementioned her or is it no? She is a later in the decade Big Star in the tennis scene. Thesedays. Yes, she made a splash with capturing herfirst Wa tale of the Indian Wells in two thousand and eighteen and sorelyafter that, shoud become the center of attention. I am obviously talking aboutNAOMIOSAKA. She won met. She were consecutivemajors, two thousand and eighteen s on the US Open and then shortly after thatshe won the two thousand and nineteen Australian Open, and she was the first Ofer Japanese,her first suv of Japanese Hocome, the first Asian man or woman to reachnumber one in singles. So I thought she us no one. No one really knew her in thestar of the decade, but once she won that Indian Wells, she kind of justbecame the center of the center of attension in those female tennis scene,and I winning those consecutive majors really put her up in that podium andKapture at number one for quite a while until Ashbardy came along. Did you guys have e? No, she I'll be honest. She wasn't eventoo close to my like to my list, but that was morebecause I used the stat of like the medianaverage end of the ranking average. So that didn't favor her, becauseobviously someone who started in about two thousand and fifteen, she had a fewyears there, where she was pretty high in the ranking, so that kind of wasn'tfavorable in the way I looked at Het, but very similar resume to mergarusa,really shes Yeah Vera Siiar Shei. She doesn't want us. She hasn't made thefinal of a single Davi, GA international tournment and she's, onlyone one premier so shes. Definitely she did have t twenty five twenty fiveweeks at number, one which does pay for her over yeah mgory Sa Yeah, who a no you actually going tosay body. To be honest when you wer now bady was very cost. Body was very closeto my list, but she has she's just very, very recent and she's just veryrecently, spiked m yeah, I conceided a shoccer at the beginning, but then because she has two Grand Slam. So twogrand slams gets them on the radaff of me, but because she's only been in thereally, she only entered the top ten in two thosand and eighteen and at the very end of the year. She'sonly spent about it just over a year in...

...the top ten, and even though he had astinch number one and very impressive end of two thosnd and eighteen started:Two Thousand and nineteen. It was just over even a shorter period of time thanclasers. So I couldn't fin an antes ter in no top ten. For me,two thousand and twenty Australia Ocen. She didn't do the best sin to have avery good performance, inm Ay, say yeah she's a bit of a hidden missplayer.Really, yes, yeah a lot of these top level. Women are because they'relike big, strong, servics, strong players, so they ca. They got t tro forhim, even like even like Terena, who obviously going to talk about laterthere. They win a lot of tournaments, but they do a very prone to an earlyexit. So I do think like Asochis a genuinehousehold name now like I know it probably took a lot of the line, lightaway from her the whole Serena thing in two thousand and Ightenusokan yeah, butI actually almost think that kind of made im more famous, because everyonewas like feeling sorry for and thought she was like a bit of a legend for theway she handled it, and then she just went Bam and won the o thousand andNineteen Iwas Open so po. I think that you know there's been a lot of singleGrand Slam, winners over the past five or six seven years in the WTA. So whenshe won that first Grand Slam, it was all like you know, you Lena Oftapenko,also won one Grand Slam and Flav Yopineto one one grand slap so likepeople in for the wchar people take the one Grand Slam victory with a bit of ait's. Just just a one hit wonder from them, yeah that I feel like that's whatmost people would e and when Syou came out nd one, the second one TU in a row.That's when people really thought okay, this is someone that is really going tobe at the Topol game for a while yeah. So now, she's a like in Australia.We probably see Bardyes like the pinup girl for Woman's tennis, but woldwideI'd, probably almost argueu right now to Saco yeah os yeah. I do think soccer's, probably that the girl now,but I feel like over the next tour. Whenever that will be, I feel, likebody will become more of a household name yeah it the foon. That was your number nine.Was it cat yeah? That was my number known all right. So me and Brownie havealready discussed our number nine, because I had red fins, ICA number,nine and you had megaresear Ye Nin yeah ys can we'll just go back to Noumat foryour, so my number Eigd is actually probably my in my top three forfavorite female tennis lays this decade. She is another a Asian she's ovasionsent. Her name is Lenon Lena. She had sertain groundbreakingaccomplishments since her retimement in wo thousand and fourteen. She enteredthe two thousand and Nineteen Hall of Faman Duct She's agees. First, GrandSlam singles tramp in that induct got anducked into the whole fame. Herresume is quite stacked. She won the Australian Open and she won the FrenchOpen she did on. I think she won. A fewtitles did Cheu in some premior titles. She didn't interesting, but I think ani think she's. Just it was a bit of a selfish pick for me,but IRACAN. She still should be in the Toptun. She's got also a great spiritabout her. I think, and she inspires a lot of people you're goingfor the intenntional elments. I write that can well. I've actually lay NAS mynumber IHT as well me too wher we go so it funny thought Iwa outrageous,Camp Yeah, O yeah, even though, like she asked thissimilar, she did retire halfway o the...

...decade she finished. So you know sheprobably could have been higher. She you know was younger, but because shefinished in the top ten four years in a row from two thousandand Leven totwenty fourteen and one the two grand slams she was in there. For me, there was from the start. I always thought youknow that and her prime was in the tweandy ten. She wasn't much of a namebefore the thwsanty ten, so I think it was a for me. She was a clear numbereight. She was clearly better than the people below and then clearly worse andthe people above her. So I think that was probably the easiest placing out ofanyone for the day except for number one, but yeah e H, yeah ye pretty much said all the reasons whyshe's dout number eight. But I know we can't like talk about stuff that didn'thappen, but she did only retire when she was thirty two. She succumbed toinjury issues in two thousand and fourteen, so her career probably was cut short a bit.As you were saying Brawnie. She was really only starting to get into herprime, like she won one of her grand slands only seven months before sheretired. So I think she could have probably built up her legacy, evenfurthou if it wasn't forinjuries but still a great player and, like a very fair pick to number eightin the decade, when you're only played four years, yeah well five years, actually yeah yeah. So back to me again, for my number said: Oh yeah, no yeahcan we just te host now likit sor, I recken tit. You guys have thisplayout much higher than I do Wat d youacan. We have all the he same topseven people I reckon we'll all have the same tops of we be very shockiokay.So I reckon you guys have this player, probably in the top, for I reckon, butmy Numersoni Maria Shii know you're going to say that sugar poebut sugar,Pobo Great Great Candy. She did have an amazing run this decade. She had fiveseasons in a row when she was in the top for for rankings. She did ged aFrench Open and she did get oh another French Open two years later. She unfortunately, she did in two thousandand sixteen test positive for a substance that was on the ITF Pan Listand served a fifteen month suspension, so that did come into play with myranking because I'v Alway she was out for those fifteen months and then whenshe did eventually make her come back. She wasn't the best playor and sheactually didn't even make a final round of a major since her Ben. So that's whyshe's my number seven hm well, my number seven is the same. I've also got number seven yeah for Vit. It was really tight to behonest for me, numbers two O seven we're all super close, so it was verydifficult, but I ended up just prioritizing some things and it's justdoing some like calculations with a few things, and it's just the way it turnedout to be honest. She's, you could, you know, throw hatover the next few people, so I don't Khave too many reasons where she's putbelow just maybe the drug band definitely comes into it and the lastthree years the fact that she spent two more years after her ban full time onthe tour and didn't perform where some a couple others, you know, had someother issues going on yeah. She didn't if she didn't havethat. I feel like that. Jog the been really hit her career hard and I think she hasbeen performing well. I think that experiences kind of affected herplaying and that fifteen months off...

...from the toan facing like Serena Kerbar, Hale Kabidofa, I feel like shehasn't practiced playing against them. So she can't really fight well against the new style oftennis. That's Comingto the later of the decade yeat she I definitely so I'll, comeclean. That's not a doping Jok, but U'M SHI WW.I did my like what their highest ranking was and how many weeks they hadat that position after I actually ranked them. So when I learnt she hadonly been number one for four weeks in the decade, that kind of like question Bu, like I was kind of likeyeah she's, probably lucky to be here, but I've actually put her number three.What so, if you have a look at her median end of year, ranking it's numberfour, because she ah shes in the top for for five years yeah. So, as youwere saying Cam since the return she hasn't had the greatest rankings butyeah, she was went number four, two four, two four which left her. Sothat's a very consistent lefter median of the decade and at four, which was, Ithink, tied second actually, which is pretty impressive for me. Although she doesn't have thatmany big tournent victories. I think a lot of that can be put down to Serena.She I don't know, I don't have it actually written down who she lost toin these finals, but sheas lost four grand land finals, six premier manatoryfinals. So I assume at least half of those ae. Two Oun and Theyre Really N,yes, Ri she's, winning for and losing to. Well, that puts her in a whole newteer, so yeah, well, Osome of those grand slame finals were in thedifferent decade, though yeah, I think, if you put, if you, maybe, ifyou maybe do the it from two thousand and six to two thousand and fifteen orthousand five thousand and fourteen like half of each decade, should be inthe should probably be in the top three for me easily, because she alsoperformed in the second half of the last decade in the first half of thesdecade, yeah for me, just a l, just a veryclose, but a little bit behind the others, but Thethe Tho wins in the fourfinal loser, theyre actually Al in this decade they all Mistakea four Grand SAEANA losses, they're from W thousand and eleven to two thousand and fifteen to,as opens he French and a Winbledon yeah. I was kind of Suppor, that's six finals,that's it wow! I A osomething else that I rated really highly for her was her.I know this is only twice in a decade, so it could be a fluke but her silvermedal at the two thousand and twelve London Olympic Games. So the Olympics,it's not a ranking point tournament, but I value it quite highly. It's like a big goal of a lot ofplayers to try M win a gold medal at the Olympics, so yeah the fact that shewan silver there I ratet quite highly and once again lost a Serena in thegrand final, so yeah, probably hate Serena for the rest of you. Sean ivolryis very one sideed, I must say yeah yeah she doesn't have. She doesn't havethe UMPOWER to match Serena. So Serena can just slap her shots, yeah aright.So she was your number seven. Yes correct! So she's my number three but,as you were saying, Brownie from twoto seven true doseten was all very tightyeah. Looking looking at the starts now, Icould probably change a few things, but at the time I was happy with it. Sonumber seven I've Gone Bicaas Aranka, Oh shee's, my number three, theBellerus. Do you have a Bron ever is number six just about sharp Ovar. Forme, Oh wow, I had her at number three, so she is one of these players: She'snot actually like a Saka and Burgarusa,...

...where she's just got a few grand slamsand nothing else really in a resimat. She has five Premiur manatory winsthree premier, five winds, she's made nine premier final, so she's been greaton the tour as well. The probably what lets her down is herranking. Like consistency, she was really strong for three years and thenpretty much after that. She just went to just being a just a solid to aplayer, which is quite odd, but that seems to happen a lot yeah. Well. Shedid have a child in there yeah and then had some the custody, battl castodyissues, so he had a bit of a time off in the middle, but yeah she's never been able to get backto that form where she was easily the second best player behind Williams. Forthat period of time, when Williams was dominating yes, yeah Rit I put Het on tetere. Ihave it number three, because I she, when we watched her, she matched shewas able to match CERINA's power and intensity, and she also cutshed twoOlympic metals, including gold in mixed doubles. So I thought that was very. I rant o hire because of that as well.She on to consecutive Australian, opens as well proving she can defend her title. So that's why I put et higherthan some of these other girls, because she has those Olympic winds under abelt as well yeah. She does haven yeah. He resme isreally good. She Hasi a present seriously impressive. Just the rankingthing really lets her down yeah from Murga Merusa. She has the secondhighest wall, worst meeting average and the yaranging for me, but quite a longway, so she's still able to hold the number one spot for fifty one weeks,though Yeah Bate Yeah was dominant in that period there. When I tallied up all of the rankingpoints for the last ten years that ws one of the Satturday used, she came inat number seven. She was lower than most of the other players. There's onlythere's only one player- that's above heard, that's ranked that one playerabove her in my rankings. It's belower in this stat, but yes, ses just slightly lower than mostof the other people above her just because of the lack of consistency of the last portionof the decade yeah. She had a kind of similar careertrajectory to some of the others like Stozar Irani Kivoni, but her peek wasmaybe three times as good as the Y, but as it seems to kind of be a trend inwomen's tennis. Probably quite a few of them are down to like child birth andmotherhood and stuff. So yeah, probably soming people don't factor in a lot,but that's probably a common cause, but yeah they a a lot of the times theyballoon off at theend of their careers and then you'll be looking at therankings and you'll see some Grand Slam win. It rang four hundred and seventysix playing a challenge, an savakial so yeah, it's pretty bizarre world, thewomens tennis yeah. So I had a number seven. You had e numberthree cap. What did you have? I had an umber six: okay, Soof Shapova Cam JoiniD. your number seven man e. We done o Mi Niemnns Po. Oh that's right! Yeah!So you can do your number six, okay, my number six! She wasn't as good in themajor trophies. She didn't rack up at a lot of major trephies, but she is veryimpressive. How long she can hold her number one spot for to my number. Sixis Caroliane was neake yeah sheres, some very impressive statssuch as she held the number one spot...

...for seventy one weeks, the second thesecond highest. What Chistarine is obviously the highest? She got oneAustralian Open Win, and then she got ten premier titles. So she had thesecond most premier titles in this decade, which which helped her go up in the rankings she finished inthe top ten for the seventh time, an nine years, soshe seven she was in the top ten seven times in these in this decade, which Ithought was very impressive as well. But what lacked what letter down was obviously her majortitles and she couldn't she couldn't get the trophy hmmwhere Dyo. Have I had was neaciatenumber four originally, when I was just thinkingoff the top yahead at the beginning. I had her at number. Seven is the bottomof the top of the the top seven that I think we're all going to agree of. Weall going t have the same top seven, but I think she would be clearly there ifyou didn't have that one grand Slan, but that one Grand Slam push dropptnumber four for me, especially because her ranking for me she was one of the moreconsistent players. You finished in the top ten seven of the last ten years. Sevenyears of the decade, I believe could be wrong there, but also when I toed upall the ranking points. She was second highest shad. The second most amount ofaccumlated ranking points over the decade, and then she also has the eightpremior title. So when I considered those things that she's achieved, Ithink that that put her up to number four for me and really most of theother women up around her only of that one more grant slam. So I don't thinkthat that was enough to push hor down. So for me she was at number four due toher consistent, ranking and also the amount of time that she heldthat number one spot at the very beginning of the decade. Yeah Yeah. Shewas my number five, so yeah you were just touching on brawnish. She had six,no seven years out of the ten like her end of year. Ranking was in the top ten,so and then another two were in the top twenty, so only one end of yew rankingwas outside the top twenty, which is pretty outrageous. Yeah On't, I can'tsay at the top of my head, if any of the other players in this list havedone that, but yeah as ye was saying, I was willing to look past the fact thatshe'd only had one Grand Slam, which is the least amount on my list behindradfance Gurl and but, although, like international and premior tournaments,they're, not the most important things and lots of the time like the second seed will be rankedlike forty. She has the most international tournament victories outof this list and she has the second most premior tournent victory. So sheis probably another person who you could almost compared to David forer inthe fact yeah she's, the tour grinder she's, also one the world to a finalsas well forgot to forgot to mention that one as well yeah. I think shereally became. I feel like halfway through this decade, though she reallylike turnd a corner and although her ranking kind of wasn't so dominant, shejust became a better player and had a new found ability to beat the best. Yes,if it wasn't for her little if it wasn't for a stent at the top at theend of two thousand and seventeen start, oftwo thousand and eighteen where shewon the thousand and Seventeen Fart twoo finals, and then she won Tho,thsand and eighteen Australian Open. I think that she definitely would be downat me for me and number seven on the list, but she really came back after acouple years outside the top ten and had a new found abiliy with have a bitmore power than she did before. And one thing that I remember watching and allthe commentares were comenting on is the pace on a serve increased and thepace for a shot to increase you'll.

Still, she wasn't a powerful player,still a grinder, but just had more ability to hit through the ball, whichis something that is definitely gets you the wins of the bigger tournaments, which yeah in the end was thedifference maker and getting her up a few spots for me, yeah she's, fantastic player, and shedid really well to overcome the adversity. She facdat the start of hercareer because I remember the countless amount of like journals and stuff whojust ripped into her when she was number one and didn't have a grand slim,pictory Yeah Tor, a name like everyone, wisus saying like people ere, evencalling for like a ranking point system change to stop that from happening,because yeah people would just outrage by it, but she really shut them up withI'd, say the back half of this decade with some really big winds. Yeah I'll be honest, though, if I had topick like, if I ha to pick one person out ofthis list out their Prin ability to win a match to save my life should probablybe on the low end. Yes, this is true, if I'm honest, like I'd, probably havesomeine like as a ran car or even maybe MERGARUSA, probably above her in termsof that but yeah so she's. My number five she's, my number four all right. So I think we're up to mynumber six. It's a bit confusing because we've all got them in differentorders, but yeah Brownie. Your number six was as a rankol es and then HamSonas Walsin Aki. So my number six is Angicuba, so she's a very famous player,especially in Australia, because as she wanted to Australiaa oneas oneone Australia, but it was he first first grade Ram yeah it was like pin isa surprise when yeah she hadn't made anything past a quartifyne on a grandsland for like three years, and then she just came out one, the thousand andsixteen nils open. So she kind of became a bit of a legend. Yeah Eche beat Serena Yeas. She beatshe's Ad Surreder in two of her three Grand Slam, finals, yeah er, an epiclike three Tete. It was an ethic three Sett er. She just grinded her way out,and I remember at the victory and then she beat Sarena again the twentyeighteen, whimbord and final, where she just absolutely smacks: Herin off thecourt, so those two grand slame, winsy and Serena are definitely impressive.Yes, she's the only athough she's, the only other woman to get more than twoGrand Slam victories, because all these girls are stuck with two wins andSerina obviously dominated to get the other winds. But she wracked up three.So hmm I put ofte a do you guysh. I had hurt five just above Azarenka, Wa taky. I had her at four yeah all right so forme, even though she had the three Grand Slam, so it was the second most out ofanyone she's the only player on the list, never to win a premier, manitrror premier. Five title is that right I right and saying yeah yeah. I saw thatstat. I saw that tat live five finals. I found that category very strange forsomeone. That's, it was such a weak, as most of them have won in the top seven of all one six or more,except for her who's, one zero. So, for me he actually Ha shopping final recordexcept for grand, except for grandslams, so Grand Slam, shes three wins one loss.But then, if you tellyou up every other kind of tournament, she is she's likenine and eighteen or something yeah. So that's yea, dea its on a her skiel Lovyeah. For me, she's kind of a similar situation to Mugaruza in the fact thatover the last few years just had some surgers up to the very top of the gameand then some surgers all the way down...

...into the ties and es and whatever, overthe last four or five years except the. What obviously gets te Rup here is thefact that she has that one extra Grand Slam she's just Beeng up Ath, the topfor much Longu she's, been in the top. She start entered the top ten in twothousand and twelve. So it's been quite a long time since she's been near thetop of the game and of course, her year in two thousand- and sixteen was one ofthe best years was up there with one of the best years other than some by arena.By anyone this decade, because she won that she was number one in the worldand she won two grand name titles in a single year and I think I'm confidentin saying she's the only person to win the two Grand Slam titles in a singleyear other than other than Serena over the decade,Ainow Yeah Yeah. I can't confirn, but I do think that's correct, she's, also one silver metal at theOlympic game she lost to Monica Feek. We we won't spend too much time when thatlost bit of a not that's another choke. Actually she actually has the worstfinals reorever. I know these a she's, not gn, she's lost two Hotman Cupfinals and s never won one of those and then this is, although this is anotherchoke in a final, but this is impressive. She made the Fed Cup final and then lost. Iassume, probably I campror public, because that's hows, I checke probetdonnate the head Cup yeah, so she bcshe is probably myfavorite women's tennis player all time I'd, say: Yeah Shou, performce Wellin,the Batda that backhand shot that backhand shot. She plays where she'salmost on the ground ONS. For me, that's like the most iconic women'stennis, shot yeah, like se, got o work e other night. Can you the othernightcam? You were doing it Wen? We wre playing table tes yeah, it's like watchme Doo cab, yeah. She is very impressive. She gets she's good withthe passing shots. I think that's her. What she's most known for you know Ishe manages to squeeze the Cross Court for hand passing shot, no matter whereyou're standing on the Cordoman, no matter where she is on the court andshe's just very scrappy and can get to pretty much every ball so veryimpressive and has produced some incredible gronds. All three of ourgrandslam finals of all been incredible matches and incredible winds, so that of course, countser somethingas well having two wins over Serena and Ground Slam finals, yeah yeah, as is asI was touching on before, like wo I'd, want to be playing for my life at theirprime CERBA, would be righter up there. For me, like should probably be secondby and Serena, maybe or as a ranker or something but she's. She was so goodalrigh. So that's my number. Six Yeah wo got my number five. That was mynumber four yeah we're only halfway through the ten, but there's only threeplayers left. There's three players left yeah. I've got now. I've coveredall my four to ten. I just have my top three that we haven't covered. Ohthat's! Well, you I've got my number five. I got my number five and then twoand one left all right. Well, do your number five then, because I don't haveanyone below my top for left sod. You start with your number five and we'llfind an my number five whell. Obviously you guys have this person our top three.I think you never Bo. My number five is Petrick Ovidiva. She, I just don't think cause shedoesn't she's whate. She want to wimbled in to Wimbedons, but I thinkwhat was very impressive was she helped check republicat the six bed Cup crownsyeah because, obviously check republic dominate in the women's tennis. I think she has very impressive starts.The only thing that was letting her down is, I don't think she has everreached rank one yeah. She hasn't tat that for me with O weas as well.

That's that's just what let her downshe had. She wont she did the Wimbudon. She won wilmerdind. She won the Fedcups, but just not having that rank one like all these other girls in this top ten really lette down. I think yeah,Interesting Hee. I had he a my number three with my number two and similar towars. Niaki who was my fourt. I originally had a lower when I justthought abattle at the top of my head, just because she's never held thenumber one ranking, which is something that like cement, someone in your headfor sure when they'r when theyare a world number one, but then you look atit closely and she's one or two Grand Slams, which isvery similar to most of the other Wenasof. The other girls on the listand she's dense hes want Ed, two or finals and eight premier, manitry orpremier farm titles, which is a lot but as she as the most just the mostpremior titles out of any O, the other women Er this decade, just the mostwith eleven and only two losses in final yeah and she was birred on thelist for me of the total amount of ranking points, so they've accumulatedover the decade, jus behind Walsniaki and Sarena, and then she's been in thetop ten seven out of the finished the year in the top ten seven out of theten years, and then one year finished it number eleven and then one yearfinish a number twenty nine, but also that was around the time that shetragically was stabbed in her apartment in the handand was in hospital and was out of the game for a extended period of time.Because of that, so that definitely put a Tarnis on that year bit of anastricts on that year. So who knows? If wasn't for that event? Maybe she wouldhave been nine years in a row in the top tewn. We don't know, but justdefinitely when I thought about all of that. Icould look past the fact that shoe'd never held the number one ranking andput her at number three. Just because her credentials overall and herconsistency, ofver the entire decade is definitely she's. Definitely probably, I would saythe second most consistent player over the entire decade and inthe entire ten years yeah, and I think she is, I think, she's she's, the one tennis player, who Ithink is the fan favorite. I think everyone loves convitibll, Yeah Yeah. I think she's very popular andshe's always had the knack to like she's really consistent, but she'salways had the ability to bet big players yeah the best players like shebeat Bady. This shear didn't she in the quarterfimens yeah. I think she did no. She beat bad in the quarterholslast year, actually and then Bady managed to get over this year and thenbody lost it. An N in the semifinals but tnow Hav that crazy thing wherethey played each other like eight or nine times in like felve months, hiveplayed each other a lot Ityeah, so I wouldn't call Avit of a aconsistent player in the way that she plays she's, definitely absolutelysmaks a ball and could be a bit wild, but so she's prone to some early roundexits in tournaments. But then every year Manaes to get the job done and wina few titles and manage she's being which causes a ranking to be consistent.Just because of a Rawa power and talenty has the ability to dominate afew tournaments of the year and keep her ranking up there and always bearound she's always around on the big stage when it comes to the BeitTournaments. You know that she's a threat ever every time, yeah and she's never really gone onlike a drought, where a lot of the big hitting players that'll go like a yearor something without any decent title where she's Hidall Miss, but like fifty percent of e time, she hits likeshe's there. She's, probably one of the more consistent big hiddes, even ifthat makes sense, yeah but ofopposite...

...to curb her finals record is reallygood. Elik, you get the Holi in a tournament just pretty hard to stopyeah, as we said before, she's one eleven premier tournaments only twolossens and then Premie Manatur in premier, five sheres, eight wins onlytwo finals, lossens, so unch I just looked at up. I just looked it up and Bady actuallybat convitiv it this year in the quarterfinals. Yes, who be body Kennon,Innokay, T', ight, yeah, yeah N. I actually kind of rememberthat much now yeah I was just getting confused because of Twenty Nie. Wheredid you have her in your ranking homish? She was my number two and that'sbecause I ust rate her fed cup stuff. So highly.If you know me, you know I Froth Davis Cup and Fed Cup. I think it's becauseI'm from like a team sport background, so I'm a big fan of the Fed Cup andDavis Cup, and she not only what was part of a winning team pretty muchevery time, except for one. She was like the number one singles player. Ithink the most recent one PLISCA bark was the molike she kind of carried the teama bit but yeah. So it's not only impressive to win that many fed cups ina decade which its pretty ridiculous, really yeah mall country, but the factthat she like carried the most times is pretty elate and obviously they have the dream.Dream Team doubles in Fradeca and Habach Akova, yeah and covitiver andsafferove were always alittl singles peering in the mid before pliscovercame around in the earliter middle part of the decade yeah. So safarova made myhuge list of players. My huge short Livs for this for a French, open, finel,yeah and she's basically got nothing to her, except for that and her cheekylike four fed covens but yeah. So covitee made my twob, butthat I admit that's probably due to my like yeah. I Love Tau Oting, but shewas my three so get im alone, like I feel like Browniegand me have the same two and one yes well yeah. I don't think you've putnumber two above number yeah. So I guess just bring her up Somon how thenext Ol Isday no Samona help is my number two. Is She your number fourHamish yeah she's T my number for she is below Sharaova, but upon reflection,that is pretty outrageous based on the fact that they have similar resumes,but one has been a number one for a year and like a quarter and one hasbeen at number one thir yeah for me, Samona Halburt number two was theeasiest decision from two to seven. To make I'm going to be honest, yeah Ithink I think number one was obviously the easiest decision and than I think,semoter number two was the next dasest she because she has her two grandslience, which is similar to everyone else once again and but then she's lostthree Grond Slam finals, which is so just made it to this, made it to the yeah matter to the second most amountof grand slame finals. I know behind sharpoar, sorry, but also one seven premiumantry or premierfive titles, and then that puts her it a like similar position to most otherpeople in the top seven. But then H, r, the fact that she was number one heldthe number one for the so many weeks and then also just been superconsistent over the last five years, five or six years. Actually her lasther end of your ranking Ofr. The last six years is three two four one, onefour which is at's, crazy, absolutely heardof which is absolutely insane and she's the only person who only play ourreally Serena hasn't even or Sarena...

Yeah Serenas, clearly the best, but torank in the top for consistently for five or six years straight yeah, she's,definitely thelike, because Serena doesn't play muchanymore across the TOR. I would see Halla es like the biggest scalp orthe biggest consistent star on the WT tour at the moment, yeah econsistencyover the last five or six years e. whenever it comes to Grand Slam, youalways think she'll end up in the final or she'll get close to the final, likeit's a guarantee yeah. She had a little period, ther oflike one or two years where she was prone to an early exit. But I feel likeshe's overcome that of yes, once she got that fur because he lost her firstthree finals in a row as well, once she got that first, tired, rend, Jok, anFrench Open, hitis, really really managed to step it up and yeahbe like what many be. What few on the tour for the last four or five years ofmanaged to be, which is super consistent across most tournaments ofthe year. Of course, everyone's going to lose in the early rounds occasionally, but Ithink for sure the most best easily second best of the last fiveyears. Possibly you could argue that she's been number one. She has lessgrand slans, but over the last three years or four yearsI would probably place her as tha number one player above this arenabecause of how consistent she's been and obviously Serenas had a child inthat time. So t makes it a bit more difficult, but I rad her extremely highly and she was a clear number two for me:Yeah and she's, the leader of the Golden Romanian generation. So yeah,that's probably my favorite thing on the decade. Actually, the Romaniangeneration of tennis players that just randomly came through yeah looking at Cavideve, Sharopoverand helop. That is your two three four is 'n a Brownie. No Shar Ho was myseven I kno yeah, although in insite I did have a bit of a city school eror insaying that Shar pevred only lost one grandslamfinal and one two grand slams, and so maybe she would shift after realizingthat. But for me, Yeah Shi Samona was definitely a clear number two yeah.Well, we the same with me for me its pretty obvious wide there ma two threefour, because they've all basically got the exit pretty much the same resumes.It's just shaapove has only been number one forfour weeks: couvinever hasn't Ben Number One and then helps just rumpingit him with sixty four weeks and number one. So I definitely understand howSheis your number two. So, let's get on to the best playons, probably probably one of the besttennis players, not even femost out tennis, playes, probably one of thebest tennis plies of the decade, Ohjurena Willingams, the most yeahshe's, probably the best women's tennis player all time, yeah she's, definitelyundoubtedly yeah. She Wan Eve. Nae Hundred Courts, Mos the Grand Slamtitle tally, but I think that Margare caught winning eleven Australian opensin an ero where not that many players came to Australia. Yeah puts a bit of atarnish on that, considering nowadays, where every single player is at everysingle Grand Slam, yeah yeah. Well, she had Serena had an impressive twelvesingles majors, which is outrageous shed two hundred and thirty six weeksand number one. She had threew Ta Finals Champs andthen for she had seven premior titles, which is an outrageous decade. Fereryeah and she has...

...her final record except for grand landsin the last like two years. But her final record is pretty crazy, so shehas es seven premier, man at trees and seven premier, five titles and she'sonly lost four final. So pretty much four out of five times she's gettingthe win and, as you said, cam seven premier titles and only one loss and afinal there. She also had the goald medal at the AF. Well, Olympic Games,yeah, so AKA. She also went eight eight neal in Grandsan finals, so she had two.She had just winning every single bran slam for two years in a Roiland, prettyson Yeah, which obviously something Serenawould do yeah. I think Serena, especially from like twenty twelve, twothousand andthirteen up until twenty early two thousand and seventeen whenshe announced it, she was pregnant. She was just unbelievably dominant. Itwas absolutely ridiculous because in the early parts of the decade veryearly first couple years of the decade she didn't, I think she had some injuryproblems and then obviously she had her child and now obshe's still dominating,but is her priority? Isn't exactly playing on the two or full time? It'smore just Gat in the Grandis lame title, so she doesn't exactly dominate therankings and dominate as much as she used to, but for five or six years shewas just an absolute ridiculous amount of dominance and yeah she was probablye, was the Jokovitch of the female tennisworld. Every time a gran slam would come up. Youere like yes, sarenas goingto win this whereis, that's what jokovitch is like in the later of thedecade. It's kind of just like jokvitch is just going to win this year again,Yeah Shi third period there across all grandslams. She was like Raugher at the French like it was at this certainty,pretty much yeah. No one could even come close and that'swhy we were like making such a big deal out of the fact that Kerba had one twoGrand Slam finals against her and stuff like Tyea, because that was genuinelyunheard of at was like. It was definitely unheard of. Obviously, thelast couple of years she's lost. I think she's lost her last four or wasit? Is I two or four her last? I think IITHIN T yeah EXCEP. She just had aoutrageous period where she just won so many Grand Slams and she did have someearly exits as well, but wer beating, I think, especially once we get,especially in that period one Yo r, to a ladder once she gets to the latterstages of the Grand Slam. She is extremely Hart to stop yeahhundred and forty one weeks at number. One. I've got here, that's almostexactly five years out of the teneand stupid, which is like pretty crazy yeah,even though she's had like in terms of ranking she's had like not such astrong ranking the last three years because O as you're saying Brownie likechildbirth and stuff, she doesn't play on the Tou that much she still has thehighest median average and she is only point to off just the general averagefor and ofyew ranking out of my top ten, so wheei would have thought like shewould not be close in those starts, but shes actually yeah Oll. In my tally ofall the ranking points of the last ten years, even though she's Mr Cup misty,she missed a year or so, and but second places was Niaki to Pulinto perspective.Eighth was Curba with three thousand thirty. Eight thousand and second wasWal Niaki with forty five husand so from second to eighth, there's onlyseven thousand points separating all of those players in the middle whichincluded Ro Wonsco. Who was my number ten and then everyone from twoto sevenin all of our rankings, because we all thesame two to seven and then the jump from forty fivehsand and then Williamshas sixty five sand hitwentythouserd...

...ahead, so there's only a seven thousandgap between second and eight and then a twentythousand gap from second to first,which is just yeah I tray and like she. Obviously, she obviously wants to keepsticking around because she wants to get that Grand Slam record and beatMargaret Cort. We hope she gets it. I hope she, yes, she should get. U She'splayed really well. She she does deserve it. Yeah, like I, don't want mygrandkids looking at the history records and saying Oh mi, recall wis,two grand slams better than Trina Williams. Like I don't want that to bea thing, I want it to be clear that srenais the undisputed best e Er, soyou know well, I think shes she's one. She needs one to tie and then she justneeds one to be yeah. I ory Dash R fial yeah, l, theGills, the girls in the lock room just got to be like. Let's give it to himyeah. I was saying the other day to Campbell I'm worried about. Given this ye isbasically a ride off Lam wariage is actually not going to come back. I think she will come back. I don'tthink your retire until she aithe can't physically play anymore because ofinjury, or has that record yeah? She she has that recording innerscience I reconsiol yeah she will get up. So that was a good fun. Did youguys enjoy there in ows good or I'm not shocked, tat our two to seven were allthe same players just in different order. A'm also not shocked at ournumber. One was all the same yeah you just missed your tens. who waslike for me. Well, I only put twelve in my consideration in the inn, because,if I just knew, I just had a Gud feeling about lots of player that itjust wasn't going to happen. So, of course, my honorable mention was Kimclasters and then my number twelve was Naomia Saka, whether she's actuallynumber twelve. I don't know, but just the fact that she had two grand slamsmean that I had to consider in the mix yea and then that was it from me in theplayers that I fully you know got it out all the starts for it. My honorable mentions were stors, are not joking O, don't even joke about that. She ismy honorable mention I number like she. She Wa Oexman. Well,I haven't ordered my honorable mentions. I just did it from the way I eliminatedthem out of contention. She was actually the last person I eliminated.Well. I know that sounds crazy, but well my honorable mentions I hadMugeerisa redbonscar. I had body in there because I thought jus impressiveand I also had bian car on Dresscoo. Oh t'sa be cool nofair enough quality over quantitylike she yad and stars already so fair enough yeah. I was when I before Istarted researching. I thought Venus was a certainty and then I started myreseac yeah. I was like it. She Dasn't want o Grand Slam. Has She last tenyears all the versear superearis actually only made to final yeah? Shemade the two finals in two thousand and seventeen I' want to say she made twofinals in a road but yeah. I also really wanted to put Spitalina in ther because she's one ofmy favorite playrs, but she just does not have the ses she's been in the topten for so long, but shejus doesn't have the winds. Tobackon doesn't havethe toilet wins and also wasn't really around in the first half of the decade.I want to say she was mainly eked around been consistent for the secondhalf, but not really a factor at all because I's quite ae kind of the themeof the people who missed out they'd either had good success on the tour andnot at the Grand Slams yeahe had a few big tornent winds and just doneabsolutely nothing and their ranking was like bad like stos. It was kind oflike that yeah...

...all right so tha. I hope you guysenjoyed that a that's Lo, join them very much and making that list we'redoing campbells, unfortunately not coming back for the men's tens episode.My number one would be I'll, give you a quick loaddown and be a domic team andFabi futing, then Shi PABOM and that's the end in the story. Yeah. So a lot of people with luscous locks inthat in that three, so yeah you're, a women's tennis specials. So you won'tBecomea Mat for the man's tensth episode. So ther will be an NFL draftepisode coming out on Tuesday and then the Thursday episode will be the men'stennis version of this, so Brownie will be back for that Anso Rosok, you'veloved his work tune back in soy. Ah, thanks for Jo joining me boys and Idoubt Ae's anyone listening, but I hope you guys enjoyed it too.

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