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Episode 39 · 1 year ago

Top 12 NFL Fantasy QB Rankings - Episode 38

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NFL experts James Curtis and Pilch join Hamish to discuss the top 12 ranked QB's in NFL Fantasy for the 2020 NFL Season.

Cheese settle. Welcome back to episodethirty eight of the Honor Wall podcast. Today I'm joined by my NFL experts, James Curtis and Christian pilcher. How are we, lads? Yeah,good man, how are we good? Thanks. You know part did you? Did you watch a bit of the footy last star Lads, I did. Yeah, watch it all. colons looking pretty good. Win for themis actually fairly sizeable. Nine small last yeah, the collingwood getting up.Then England actually got off to a good start in the test match, whichwas surprising after the first half hour. The lads are three for two,hundred and seven stokes. You simply putting on a clinic. And then,I don't know if you store it this morning, but Real Madrid sealed theirfirst low league title and like four years or something. So congrats to allthe round with good players. They are all bigger listeners of the honor ballpodcast, so congratulations to them. Now, fuck them. Fuck them. It'sa bit stiff that moves. But today we're talking about NFL fantasy quarterbacks. So I don't know if you listened to what that you specifically, Curtis, but the people listening listen to the last episode, but I said thatfrom now on until the NFL season, about once a week we're going tobe doing an NFL fantasy related episode, since I just love NFL fantasy thatmuch. So we're starting off with the big boys. Were starting off withthe quarterbacks. I've got, well, we've all made like a top twentylist and I've averaged it out and we've got a top twelve for you todaybecause obviously twenty and or whatever it would take too long to talk about.So we're just going to go from twelve to one. We're just going tochat about why they're in that position and so on and so forth. So, without further a Jew, should we just get into it, lads,dad did. Are we starting at one or twelve? We're going to twelve. We're got twelve. Keep them hanging, passing it up a bit. Tobe honest, it's probably more spicy to go the other way, butthat's just a wrong thing to do, is to start at one. Couldcould only some suspense for the we ever knows who's one and two anyway.All right, so, based on average, we had a very close tie forlike twelve and thirteen, but I made the decision and we cut outa famous quarterback, some say the goat. So He's missed out. The peoplewho did make the top twelve we're going to touch on in next week'sepisode, which will kind of be a quarterback episode, where we chat aboutpeople who, like, could potentially beat bolsters and stuff like that. Butin twelve we've got Aaron Rodgers, so I feel like we should clap orsomething. So Curtis, yeah, he had an average position of thirteen.He's average draft position on the fantasy pros website is actually thirteen as well.So we're on the money. There lives, Curtis. You had him an eighthwide. You have them so high. Well, he's not a complete jewelthreat quarterback guy. I said this to you last night on fantasy.I'm a huge fan of Jew jewel threat because if you can't get it donethrowing, then you can get it done running and vice versa. So itjust means you can accumulate points either way if you have to do so.While he's not a complete jewel threat, he's certainly got some legs on him. So if he needs to get out and bolt bees them. The armsnot working too well here, can do that. So I thought he wasa bit better than a few quarterbacks I had lower down, just to namea few, like Brady. So yeah, I thought he's obviously our king's ina bounced back from last year, bit of a better year, hopefully. So I had a bit higher than that than twelve. But yeah,you should have a good year and he's seen around that. Probably late latesingle digit to early teen kind of thing. So yeah, that right. Pelchat. Do you think about a rod you had him in twelve, sopretty much on there with though what that happened to is, as you boysnow, I'm a big fan of Aaron Rodgers and I hold him in higherguard in the in the real life terms, as one of the best quarterbacks inthe COMP but for fantasy this year I'm not to bullish on him becauseI'll say this to you the other day, corker, I don't I can't seewhere his like three thousand, four...

...thousand yards is going to come fromthis season. Obviously you've got Adams, who will get, you know,one, one, two hundred thirteen hundred yards, but other than that heyou don't even know who is. WHO's number two receives going to be Imean it's looking like it will be Adam Lazarre, but can't really expect toomuch from him. You probably throw a few two Jones and Williams at runningback. But yeah, I just can't see him putting up the big numbers, if I'm honest. So Yeah, I'm at twelve. Yeah, andif you've done the mouth he's average position was thirteen and you guys have hadhim eight and twelve. So that does mean I've been pretty low on thebig fellow. I've actually got him in nineteen. Yeah, I don't know, you're kids. Let me so. In the second half of two thousandand nineteen he was the twenty nine ranked quarterback in the League in terms offantasy points. So suck on that one. Sucking. So that is pretty muchone of my major factors. Twenty nine in the second half. Hewas only sixteen overall last year. So it's nothing special. And Yeah,nothing's really improved for the team. So I don't really see apart from himself, I don't think anything else around them is really gotten better. He's lostone of the better Oh lineman in his you know, offense, and helost Jimmy Jimmy Graham however, in his favor, he has really good fixtures. Feels like the third easiest fixtures across the whole season out of all thequarterbacks. He does have a by early, which I don't think is ideal andfantasy, because I reckon you want to have someone with a by late, because then you can kind of you have a better feel for who tostream in for that week and you know it's a bit of a guess ifit's like round, for who to stream in. So that's also something totake into account. But in two thousand and eighteen he was six and twothousand and seventeen he was four. So, like, I definitely could see aworld where he just bounces back and is a top ten QB. Butfor me, as Pilch said, I just don't really know who he's throwingto and that second half of last year just really scared me because, yeah, there wasn't didn't seem to be anything wrong with him. He just seemedto be playing bad. In saying that, though, last year will these firstyear with the coach, so you think that would get better this year? You think they would, you know, become a bit more in sync andthe play book would get more advanced, which might help his cause. Butyeah, I've got him in nineteen, but I'm willing to admit that's probablybit harsh. Be The competition now as well, so you might haveto step up. Come on, they're not benching him, but that neverknow me who does it? Who knows does it? Jamie Winston, mate, there might have been a wake up called that if he wants to getanother like four or five years out of his career, he needs to goback to those two thousand and seventeen eighteen seasons. That leads us into numbereleven, who was also tired with Aaron Rodgers on an average position of thirteen. However, wait, I think actually did this right. I think rodgersshould have been eleventh. Roethlisberger should have been twelve. But yetting really yeah, because Curtis had rodgers and eight, and the highest for Roethlisberg was ninth, which was me so good. Rogers should have been eleven. Sorry aboutthat. So roethlisberger changed that. Rodgers of eleventh, Roethlisberger at twelve.But they're both tired of this. Really matter? Roethlisberger in a twelve.It's a big gamble. It's a big call. But for me all Ihave to look at really is that two thousand and eighteen score. He averagedtwenty one point three. He was the fifth ranked quarterback, and then intwo thousand and seventeen he was eight ranked quarterback as well. So he justreally has a track record of being good at fantasy and that's pretty much sortof got to say on and really he's got it ease behind a really goodoffensive line. Doesn't have for the greatest offense, but it's certainly not badby any stretch of the imagination. But in saying that, that year hedid come fifth, he did have informed James Conner and Antonio Brown at hisservice. So you could argue without a be he'll be worse, but Ithink they've got enough there too to help him out. So yeah, I'vegot him in ninth and he's got a relatively easy start to the season aswell, which lift lifts him in my eyes. You both had him infifteen, actually exact same spot, Curtis. Why do you have him? Doubtat fifteen, just when I was gone through the list and I wascouldn't see be above any of the other boys that had ahead of you.To be honest. It was like a simple as APP as and just soyou speaking then like just thinking about it a be He's lost him and theAdam in two thousand and eighteen. So that's a big score off for him. Conner is isn't probably as inform or at least last year wasn't as informedas he was you before, and now he's relying on Juju as his numberone receiver, and Juju didn't really chop...

...out last year. Let's be honest. He really kid by. He wasn't bad, but he kind of struggledrelative to him being the second why I receive us. So I just don'tsee where he's racking up massive point from like the other voice, like,for example, Rogers built. Yeah, obviously losing Antonio Brown is pretty bigfor Big Ben. It's similar with Curtis. For me, there's just too muchuncertainty to be drafting him above the other old times, like a youknow, Brady Rodgers, Stafford, people are that just because he's coming offthat big injury as well. He's he's two years older than he was whenhe had that good season couple of years ago. And Yeah, so thatis why I have him below them. Yeah, I think he's probably Ithink there's a few people below him who probably have more upside. But like, I'm not sure if he'll be this season that they break out him upbe in a couple of years. But yeah, ninth is probably a bitambitious. I'll admit that. He they did add Eric Ebron who, althoughhe's probably a bit of a myth to most people, two years ago whenhe was the starting tight end for the colts he was actually like one ofthe best tight ends in the league. So he might help out Big Ben, who's never really had at all target before. Also, another thing thatmight be, like, I know, a beasy huge out. But anotherthing that might help me out is they've got such a good defense now thathe's probably going to get more balled than he had in two thousand and eighteenbecause there's going to be more turnovers and a lot more like fourth down shutouts and stuff like that. So that might help his cause as well.But yeah, he is twelve and Rodgers at eleven. So that moves usinto ten, with actually no bit of variation on this bloke. We've gotMaddie Ryan. By the way, Ben Roethlisberger was actually at pick fifteen onthe fantasy pros like ranking. So you both spot on there. Matt Ryanin it number ten, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. He had an average positionof eleven and one third on fantasy pros. He was looking at pick eight.Pilch, you also got him in eighth. Who you had them atthe highest. How come you've got him in at eight? Yeah, well, I actually really like that Ryan. I think he's a little bit underratedin the NFL, but especially this year. I think the Falcons have probably,I would say, a top three receiving call in the whole NFL thisyear with our Julio and Calvin Ridley set to have a big breakout and alsobring in Hayden Hurst at tight end. So for me, unlike Rogers,he's got all these all these receivers to throw two. So I can seehim really in the big yards and obviously he's a very talented dub as well. So I'm bullish on him. Yeah, right. Ryan's a tough one forme, to be honest. I've got him in at fifteen. WhoCourt, if you had him at eleven. So I had him at the lowest, similar to rodgers. For me, he just had a really pour secondhalf to last year. He ranked twenty in the second half of lastseason. So I do expect him to approve a little bit on that,but I don't think him. I can't think of a reason why he willbe much better. If I'm honest, he's got hard fixtures throughout the seasonand he starts against pretty tough opponents. He's got a pretty bad offensive lineto protect him, which is another thing that I don't like about him,and also something else that I factored in was, as we talked about onthe last NFL podcast. I'm not sure what Todd Gurley is going to produce, but let's say if Todd Gurley comes back and he's, you know,running it ten to fifteen times a game, well, you would think they wouldstart becoming a more balanced passing the running team, as opposed to lastyear where they were predominantly passed because Davonte Freeman sucks. So I think theymight take a few like past attempts away from Maddie Ryan. There, Coitus, you've got a minute number eleventh, mate. Well, why have yougot him sitting there? Experienced ed on him, got Julio Ridley with him. So He's pretty stacked in a wide receivers and then they're what they reallylack last year is a running back to compliment them and him. So theygot girly. Were not sure how good he's going to be just because he'sthe most injury point play prone and play in the NFL. But yeah,well, I have to see if girlies, if girlies, even like seventy fivepercent of what he was in that two thousand and eight season, thenour can Ryan could have a good season...

...and rack up a few points,Cuz then they've got and they're just not looking straight at Ryan and, youknow, blitzing him. They're having to worry about a bit of a rungame now as well, and you know, then you you too big wide receivers. So yeah, yeah, that is a good point. Like Iwas saying that having a better running backs a bad thing, but it candefinitely work and his favor, because all of a sudden they could be scoringten more points a game, meaning like he's getting more passing yards, moreof passing touchdowns as well. Yeah, I think the the Falcons have muchbigger touchdown upside this year because they were woeful last year and in our prediction. Video think we all had them to improve quite a bit in terms ofthe terms of the season. So yeah, that's another thing in his favor.He's an interesting one to pick because you think by this stage of hiscareer he'd be a bit more like a rodgers or a brady where you kindof know whereabouts how about they're going to do. But in two thousand andseventeen he was the twenty four ranked quarterback. In two thousand and eighteen he wasthe fourth and then last year he was the twelve. So kind upand down. So a tough one to predict. And he's also lost,although Hayd Hurst is coming, who could be a staff for them. TheyLost Austin Hooper, who was like one of his favorite targets, which they'llbe interesting to see this next one. We've all had him very similar.So Number Nine we've got Matthew Stafford. I had him at ten, pilcheleven, yeah, pill to eleven, Curtis twelve. So Curtis, whydo you have him in at number twelve? Are Well, it's pretty similar toa few others. Like I just looked through the listing thought who wasbetter than him? Just chuck them above him. But yeah, it wasbit of a bowler last year when he was playing. Like I haven't gothim in my team at one point just because he was whipping up numbers untilhe did his back. But yeah, I think he'll be similar to lastyear in terms you still rack up points. I reckon and yeah, he's lovesto sling it, so that's always a good thing. Plenty of touchdownsthere, but obviously it means inconsistencies in terms of interceptions, stuff like that. But yeah, we'll have to see how it goes. Yeah, Peach, what about you there? Yeah, you're a bit of a fan ofStafford after he or he did for fantasy team last season, Curtis, butobviously the broken back is a concern. But he does have he does haveweapons in goal a day and Marvin Jones he bought out last season. SoI mean if he's fit, which is an if, but if he is, then I can't see any reason why he would be outside the top wealth. I mean he's he he loves to throw a touchdown and they're they're apast heavy offense. So there's I'm positive about about Staphnie. Yeah, fairenough here. I've got written down. I did, like I found someoffensive rankings and stuff and they expected the lions to drop from eighteen to twentyfive. But I just looked at the outs and inside I can't I can'treally see what the logic behind that one is. There are line did takea little bit of Hit, but surely that's not important enough to do that. Yeah, he has fairly Nice fixtures as well. Despite being in avery tight division. He has like the eighth easiest according to the fantasy proswebsite. He at the moment his ranked twelve, but on the fantasy prossite, so spot on their Russell coitz. But yeah, another tough one topredict because last year, as you got, as you mentioned the courtesy, was awesome, like he was seventh overall in terms of points, andthen in the second half of the year, I think he only played one gameor something, but he average like well, you got like twenty sixin that game or something. So it looked, it was looking really good. But then in two thousand and eighteen he was the thirty eight ranked quarterbackand he played every single game. So that is a bit of a conservefor me and probably stops me from having him higher, because if you justgo based on us Jud it's kind of hard to see why it's not goingto be good this season. And then so stafford was tired with Josh Allenof the Buffalo Bills, but we had Josh Allen a bit higher and higher. Mean pilch. However, Curtis, you have the big feller down atnumber eighteen, which which had a bit about this last night because I thoughtit was found it interesting that you had Alan Solo, giving your love forthe jewel threat. So, John, explain why you've got him down eighteen. Um, honest, see him in the same category as like Jones andDonald like. He like like. If you think about last year, youwatched him, he was he fumbled like every single game. He loved tofumble. He's in a defensive heavy,...

...defensive heavy team. You did rackup many points, like in terms, not in terms of fantasy points,but in terms of like points in the school board. Yeah, and Ijust don't see how he's a top twelve quarterback in fantasy when you know youcompare it to other duel threat quarterbacks and you compared to, say, likemahomes will soon breeze. I just don't I just didn't see him. Justcouldn't see him above like all them and in the top twelve, in thetop twelve quarterbacks and fantasy like. It was pretty simple like and I justsee him the same category as though he's the young upling home is. He'snot a fully complete quarterback yet. He's probably going to improve relative to lastyear, but he plays in the cold. You know, there's a lot ofthere's a lot of against him in terms of racking up the points,to be honest. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not sure Curtis is aware howhighly Josh Allen was ranked last season. What where was he? Cool?Well, when you adjust for his injury affected game with a concussion,he was ten tender and he was seventh in the second after the season.I can't see any reason why he wouldn't improve, as Curtis said, andthey've added Stephan digs into their wide receiver artillery. So He did hate.He did rely heavily on his rushing touchdowns, though. Yeah, that's true,which will probably come down if you because that was a bit of ananomaly there. But yeah, I think I had him at number seven.So, yeah, I write and pretty highly. Yeah, I'm a numberseven. Fantasy pros also had him at number seven. I've but, asyou said, pillage, he did rely heavily on the rushing touchdowns and ifa few more go to Stephan digs and devin single terry improves up the middle, he might take a few away from him. But yeah, as youwere saying, Pillach, I'm not too sure how he's going to get likemuch worse, if it all worse. So yeah, and he's like reallyLainey from strange for you, from Kurt but fair play. He has addedup a way better wide receiving than what he had last year as well.So you think that would improve his throwing, watch me words, boys, watchme words. He's gonna be he's gonna be trashed this year, right, absolutely trash. Yeah, I'm not going Donald Jump seem, Jones jumpseem. I agree feel Joe seem point you're making. Like I don't thinkhe's the seventh best quarterback in the league, but it's just the fantasy game.If the Racktros, there's stream of seventh here. They hardly scored lastyou were talking most of their winter like se four Tis. He had likethey think, and just carried them through. Yeah, it's because he had likea rushing type. I think he had like eight rushing touchdowns or something, which is, what's that like six points or something? So that shouldbe Mayfield, a pile of shit, Ben Fucker, how and mate?Okay, or yeah, not fair enough enoughter, fair enough not to showthe logic. They're all right. This is probably the last person that wevary a lot in now selection. So we've got drew brees and number seven. The top six is all pretty similar. So we got drew brees at numberseven. Peeled. She had him in at ten court as she hada minute at nine, but I had a minute for fans throws had himat ten as well. So similar to YouTube. But for me I justthink ten's pretty stiff if you actually adjust his average last year, because hehad that game where he against the rams where he hurt his finger, sohe came out after like I don't know, for tense. So if you takeaway that from his average, he actually average the second highest in thewhole competition last season with twenty two point eight eight. So just from thatalone, he's offense hasn't got worse. His own lines improved if anything,so I don't see why he would be slipping down to ten. He isgetting older, but it's not like he's a duel threat QV really. Hehas always relied on his throwing and that didn't look like slowing down at alllast year. And one thing you always want in an NFL qb is toplay for a good team really, because they're going to be putting up alot of points each week, each weekend. The saints are going to be reallygood again this year. So I like drew brees this year. Ilike them a lot. Peach, why if you got him down at zero? Yeah, well, I think is a DP is around seven or eight. So I've been a little bit stiff on him, but obviously bought outat the end of last year. But I think that twenty two point eightis quite a bit above his his main so I just basically expect him toregress back to his back to his average...

...a bit. And after my topseven, it was sort of a pick out of a hat for the oldtime, a tear is what I call it, with your Bradi's breezes,Rogers stuffs and Yep, just they just ended up at Zen. Fair enoughit there. If there will it's not fair enough. Actually, you justsaid you've picked him out about basically, but Curtis, what was your logicval and having him in another nine? Obviously I love a jewel jewel throat, but to be honest, it should really matter with breeze, just becausebrice is an absolute jet. I know I was a bit worried about injury. Last year he got injured a bit and bridge run out to come inand save him a bit. So that was a big concern for me.So obviously you don't really want to be changing up your cub's too much infantasy because they require quite a bit to get a decent trade in. Soyou know if you want to go dcent qb for DCENT QB and he's injured, you know your your opponent might ask for quite a bit in return.So you kind of want to get someone new's not to injury prone to thatwas actually big concerned for me when actually looking at it. And then obviouslyjust I was just a bit worried also about maybe the corhesiveness of the team, just considering you know that in the offseason it has been a bit ofa chatter about that in relation to the black lives matter, protests and thekneeling. So I was just interested about that. So we'll have to waitand see. But yeah, he's definitely a top top twelve, top tenQB in terms of fantasy, but him he might be lacking in terms ofthe injury department and, you know, ensuring that he's on the view.Yeah, fair enough, pretty sounds a logic there, mate. So thenat number six we have Kyla Mauri. I. Well, why do youhave them at for Cork? Just because of that twenty, that average?Oh yeah, yeah, right, my bad. Put Him another two lastyear, so I can't see why he'd slop slip too much lower. Kyla, we had him at number six. PILCH, you're very high, andKylie, you had him a number three, whereas, being being Russ, willhad him down at seven. The fantasy pro rankings had him a numberfive. So, pilt way, you got him so high. Yeah,I'm surprised that Curtis didn't have him a little bit higher as well with allthis duel, Duel Threat Talk. But obviously, apart from Jackson, he'sprobably the second best rushing qb, I would say, and he's added obviouslydeandre hopkins into his Arsenal and going into his third year, just natural,natural improvement on him. I think he'll be a star this year and hewas very good last year as well, especially in the second half of theseason. So He's I've got him at three. Yeah, I think we'reall going to have pretty similar logic. With Mari it's just I don't knowabout you, curse by. I think he's a hundred, a hundred percentagree with everything you just said. I just don't think isn't going to improveenough to get two, three necessarily this yeah, it's just like I literallyjust didn't see being better than, say, a Russell Wilson, or being betterthan, say, a press Scott. So yeah, it just simply cameback to like looking at the Q be's and then looking at their prosand floors and then determine him whether you know, you saw them as beingbetter than the other cubes. And obviously you know he's going to be anaverage team as well. So they're not exactly going to be, especially inthe division they're in, like arguably the highest division in the NFL. SoI don't say I do say upside in the cardinals as well. I thinkthey will. They might make, they right make the playoffs, but theywill be better than last year and their offense would definitely be better than lastyear for sure. But you know, they're playing, you know, therams twice. They can play the night has twice. They're playing the teahawkstwice and all the bat the nights. Yeah, but doesn't mean they couldn'tbeen the night as this year. That's okay. So it's it's a prettyold they will beat the nighters. I thought you said they beat them lastyear. They will, I know, mate, we'll have to see.But yeah, it's a stack division, so it's a tough competition. Soit doesn't mean he's actually going to be on the OHS, going to beon the feel that much as relative to other teams. So it doesn't meanhe gets the exactly the opportunity to, you know, rack up points inthe fantasy yeah, I definitely they think he has probably one of the biggestupsides out of all the qbis on this list in terms of where he waslast year to where he will be this year. A similar to what Curtissaid. That's something I just didn't like. All pretty much all the quarterbacks abovehim play for playoff teams who are going to parlem points each week,except for one who not sure how their teams going to go. This shit, but we'll talk about that in the...

...second so yeah, that. Butyeah, Carlin, it's free. Fair enough. Yeah, I like himas a pick just because he has a lot upside, but he's probably not. There's probably safer picks out there that you want to be taking early.But if you're a gambling man like pilches, he loves his sports, but Ican't see why you would take the big Kmari. Now number five wehave big rusty Wilson. I hadn't at five. Peelch out him at sixcurs she had him at for. Fantasy pros had him at for as well. Really hurt, Curtis. Why you have them at for? Had Agreat year last year, arguably the best due quarterback. Probably I would havefound of a shorter qb as well. Someone subsect foot kind of issue.So just so beast all around. Don't see how he won't be racking uppoints this year. He's got metcalf, which I think he's going to beabsolute staff and I think he's only going to get better. So he's gota real good wide receiver in him. Still you got lock it. Notsure if he's inn have a big as big years you did last year,but I just still seem racking up points. Just don't see how he's not goingto be a top five fantasy qb perfect, you jewel threat quarterback.So if you can't get it done throwing, you can get done running. Soyeah, he's going to be racking up points and that's why I havehim around four or five pilch. Yeah, well, like with breeze, Ijust think is his average will just naturally come down a bit because youobviously I had an unreal fantasy year last year, especially in the first halfof the year. But yeah, I just obviously be right up there inthe top six. But I just think Kyle Murray will become a better versionof Russ himself and I just like the I like Murray and the other twoblokes who were about to mention a little bit more than Wilson. Yeah,I can't. I do have Wilson Above Murray by two spots, but Ihave to say on draft night, if that if they're there both of thetaking, I wouldn't be surprised if I went with Kyle just. I don'tknow there's a better arm. Who has a better arm, Kylo Wilson,but rus like Murray, has more potential to, you know, be atop two, top three quarterback, where we probably know Russell Wilson's going tobe somewhere between four and six or something like that. But Not Wilson's probablyarguably one of the safest picks. I think the seahawks are going to bethere and they're they're all thereabouts once again this year. So they're going tohave to get their points somewhere and it's probably not going to be too muchfrom the running game. So big rusty will be racking up the points ashe did last year, but he actually has fairly easy fixtures, which issurprising given the fact that he's in that division, but they're enough. Sonumber four tight one between Russell and this bloke that we had deshaun Watson,me, me and Piell Chan him at six and five, Curti Autam atthree and fantasy pros had him at six. Curtis. Well, if you gotthe big fellow at number three. It was pretty seem like when Iwas obviously drill threat love with your threat, as I've said about six times.So it'll continue with that trend. But I keep saying I like it. I just like looked at him. I just compared him to the QUB'sI had below bitch. I'm surprised one of them is ahead, but wewill talk about that later. Yeah, and I just thought he was thirdon my list. To honest. I was like, it comes draft night, who am I going to pick third? And he was in a third greatarm and him got legs on him. I don't know if the old linesimproved. I'm hoping it has, because it's pretty it's been pretty shitquite a while. So if it's improved, you know, big win. Buthe's obviously lost, as you lost Hopkins. He's lost and lost tops, so that's a big loss for him. But yeah, I just I justjust a beast of the competition in yeah, I think he's just ina whip up points. Is Not real much logic to it, unfortunately,but is what it is. Pelch. Yeah, well, for me,the the factor between Watto and Kyla Murray is basically the Hopkins factor. IfHopkins was still at the Texans and I probably would have had them reversed.But just because of Hopkins, I've got married ahead of him. But obviouslyJill Threat Yep, I've had him at one place ahead of Wilson, justbecause he'll get running touchdowns, running yards and he's still a great qb.So yeah, yeah, pretty right. You've pretty up set at all.Just super start the competition. The only...

...thing for Deshaun Watson is he didn'tend the great last year. In the second half he had the eleventh highestaverage, which is probably not what you want for someone who you'd have tobe taking in like the fourth or fifth round of the draft. And healso has very tough fixtures to start the competition. He has the thirty rankedfixtures, so the third hardest in the camp, and then in the firstthree map is he's actually got the hardest out of anyone. So although inthe long term it might pay off, you might have to just put upwith some tough ones early on and just weather that storm. But yeah,I've got him at six. Yeah, as you guys said, just superstar. Can't really see why he'll regrets too much, if at all. He'sstill young, so that's good. progressions should see him be good and I'mnot too sure if the Hopkins well has got to hurt him too much,if I'm honest, although, as you see, like breeze and Thomas,it can be pivotal to have someone who can rely on. I think spreadingyour targets across a wide receiving call my help his game as well, though, because maybe sometimes, you know, he was too busy looking at Hopkinswhen there are other options open. But we'll see how that goes. Nowin to the top three. Curtis, you said You weren't too happy withnumber three, but for me I reckon the top two is clear, likeI think their way better than everyone else, and then for about third to eight, it's all like pretty close, but fair enough. If you're nothappy with this, number three is going to have to call. We've gotwe've got big DAKERS. Prescott fantasy pros had him at number three as well. So done well, they're I had them at number three, pilched numberfor Curtis. Number Five, Curtis, why aren't you happy with Dak comingin at number three? Oh well, now I'm just thinking about right backRussell over him, back Watson over here. I know, I just like tobe honest. When I just think about it, when it's come downto the wire and you know the teams needed a td and you know that'sanother td gets some fantasy. Hasn't been able to do it. He's alwaysfallen short a bit. I guess he has. Now who they draft?Actually who now? They know, and a bit of model. See,they yep seed yet weapon. I've had a mind blank their voice or aboutthat one. But yeah, see, these are weapons. Are Big.See there's actually a weapon. So to be fair, actually I can seewhy you might have him at three because he's obviously got Zeke with him aswell. But then again, Zeep might take a few points off him.You know, if he could perform to be better this year relative to lastyear. He didn't perform badly last year, but you know, could be abit better. So if z performs a bit better, he might takea bit more bold time and consequently you might lose a few more points fromPrescott Hilt. Yeah, well, as you said, they drafted lamb andhe's got he's an absolutely loaded with offensive weapons. Great Oline. And wheredid he finished last season? Corker, sick, sick. Yeah, so, based on that there's no not really any real reason to say why hewouldn't improve in terms of fantasy. He's obviously a worst quarterback than these otherboys we have up here, but in terms of fantasy it's hard to seehim not producing numbers, even though I don't really like him. But yeah, he's got he's got to be, he's got to be up there.Yeah, I used on that. I can agree, by the way,to those listening, my rankings have been like adjusted feet games where they wereinjured after like a quarter or something. So if you google it they mightbe a couple spots off. But yeah, yeah, dark you're pretty much saidit all. Really just can't see them putting up big scores on aregular basis, to be honest, with the attacking weapons they have, like, I think it will be a pretty common sight to wake up to thecowboys having a put on like forty or something, even if it means they'veconceded thirty themselves. Similar opposite to Kyla. Actually, they're in a Shite Divisionas well, which very fair actually, which will help him, especially earlyon, which is usually you know, play your division early, and itactually might also help you in the fantasy playoffs if they you know,have a game against the giants or Washington late on. But yeah, great, aline great weapons. Better attacking coach this year, as Garrett was oneof the worst attacking coaches. So can't really see why is not going toimprove on that sixth position last year.

So yeah, I like. Ilike that this year for fantasy. But yeah, as you said, pilt, pretty rude that the quarterback of his calibers up around these. But justafter realized something. Carson Wentz hasn't. Hasn't made the top twelve. Thatmeans one of you boys has dogged him hard us. It will touch onit on the next quarterback at twenty. He didn't make. Go to picktwenty two. Didn't make think twenty two. Right, Jimmy J above it.Yeah, so we'll satisfy. That's a disgrace. will discuss all theemissions in the next episode. Oh Yeah, you like your jewel threat quarterbacks tocurtis. Clearly, mate, if you've chucked Carson wentz outside the toptwenty two. Yeah, I mean Curtis got dogged as well because he's numbersix. Was Big camp and he missed out. So him should not.Let me know let me know when when today. Let me know when whenhe's on the pitch. Made to get get your scores and then come backto him. Yeah, so we'll miss the whole knew with injury, mate. Yeah, but that's the point. Now he's fully fit. So Imats and he's playing time. He's playing a beast team with the best coachof all time. How is he not racking up points? I'm sorry,but has, you know, racking up point make the Patriots have no weapons. You don't need weapons, but you need is just a all right,we will see. Will Save this for the next episode. So we're goingto chat about the people who missed out on our twelve. Would like tosay I did not rick this, but none of my top ten missed out. So so that leads us to our top two. Everyone knows who theyare, just a mat matter of what order we had them in. Sittingat number two we have the four hundred and I think it's in Australian dolls. I think it's five hundred and four million or something. It was aquiz question on a sporting quiz I did the other day. I think itwas five hundred four million dollar man. Yeah, cross ten years just resignedP Mahomes, Patrick momes, the second, or is it? Did we allhave him at to or did someone someone? I didn't. I likethat you'd like, and fantasy pros having the number one as well, whichis really for their fantasy. Promising Raisin, I think it's a case of youagreeing with fantasy pros. Then even whe wonder way face he pros wentas well, mate, just just interested at number nine. Actually so yourselfwhen a mate went have camp nineteen. Yeah, so those wondering fantasy prosis like it's a website. They have a ranking where they print, likewe've done here today. They get like a hundred people's rankings and they,you know, correlate them or whatever, combine them. Watch. Watch,can be a beast. Mate, back to a lot it. Why doyou have mahomes above Lamar? Curse this. I just don't know if Lamar's goingto be able to back up the year before in terms of not justfancy but on the pitch performers, like he had a real good year andyou know it's only going to take one team to work out what the fuckthey're doing and then every other team to follow them and it. You knowit's going to fuck up their whole system and fuck up his chance to brackingup point plus. I'm big concerned as well. I mean it's pretty unjustifiedconsidering he hasn't really got injured, but I'm worried about him getting injured aswell, like there's a genuine chance that, you know, this year could bethe he gets injured and he's out for half the year. Well,so it takes a lot of hits. So he does take a lot ofhits. So it's a concerned, but it's something you're going to take witha play off the color of Lamar, because obviously I adam it to.So he's still up there. But yeah, I just need my homes. Isgoing to bit more on him and you know, he's my homes goingto have to, you know, show up that five hundred four million dollardeal. So he might, you know, have a bit of fire in himand rack up some points, hopefully. Yeah, it's really weird debate really, because it's like you, I think, but any of us wouldchop off our fingers to be rolling in around one with one of these FELLAS, which had jumping off my feet. It's figured. I'm not not gonnadraft them above a above a running back man. Well, you know whatI mean in terms of quarterbacks. Come on, you dogs. Yeah,for me I've got Lamar above the homes. I do. I wouldn't be surprisedif he fell back a little bit. But he has a six point bufferon who Patrick my home, so he can regress three whole points andstill be a sold three points above my homes if my homes average similar tolast season. Yeah, neither of them.

Neither of them. Their position hasreally changed. Like I don't think they've brought in either of them broughtin offensive weapons really. Lamar they drafted running back, but that won't affecthim. Lama probably could have used a wide receiver or something, but youknow, he doesn't throw that much. I might not affect him. Theyboth have pretty similar fixture difficulties. Lamar has a lot easier fixtures at thestart but then levels out because they're sixteen and Twenty second respectively in fixture difficulty. So yeah, I think it's really just lucky dip out of these two. But yeah, I prefer Lamar because I can't see a situation where Lamarhas a bad game because no matter, no matter how bad the ravens play, he still going to get like a hundred yards on the ground, likeI just don't see how he's not going to, which is automatic ten pointsand then he's just got to do the bad basics to, you know,get above fifteen. So I just can't see a world where Lamar has areal shocker of a game. We're not saying pee Mahomes is ever going towhip out a for on a regular occurrence but like you know someone if theycome up against a really good defense and he struggles to get the ball overthe line, who knows? But Yeah, pillage, what was your logic behindit? Yeah, well, as he said, the six point.He beat him by six average points per game. I agree with Curtis.There's no, absolutely zero chance. Jackson averages more than you did last year. That was just insane. Who I I know he'll come down, evenif it's just a little bit. And then with my homes, the thingthe old premiership hangover and the huge money deal. We've seen it before.Players can slack off when they get that huge contract. Not Saying mahomes will, there is a chance and obviously the premiership hang over and in that argumentthe Ravens will definitely come out firing after after a poor playoffs performance last year. So that's in Jackson's favor. Beyeah. The rushing, the rushing stuff isjust fantasy. It's just all about rushing for cubes, like if you'rerushing for fifty yards, two free, two, three, five points,and Jackson goes over a hundred regularly. So I just can't really I can'tsee my homes catching up to him in terms of points per game. Yeah, Pretty Fair logic from both of you that I can see both sides ofare argument. Just to shout out to the to the coach of Mishi's men, for trading Lamar Jackson after round one for Muton, probably the greatest decisiona fantasy coaches ever made. But I have to say I'm proud of myself. I don't care that I trade him. I had him at number seven inmy preseason rankings and no one had him in like their top fifteen.So I'll take that from myself as even though it me trading him, youknow, ruined by chances of being half decent, but it would should ye, that's our top twelve. I've actually enjoyed it. Discussion should have me, then they just orders. So we'll chat about the people who missed outin an upcoming episode, hopefully with both joined by the same well, I'mjoined by the same gang that I have here today. I was discussing thiswith pilled the other day. Might Chat about it in an earlier like earlier, in an episode upcoming, because I don't think anyone's probably listening at thispoint. But, Kurt, what do you think about this? I wasthinking of running a League through the on the ball podcast. So what Iwas thinking, I'm back, was on like instagram or something. You know, I'll just send out a like, let me know if you want tobe in it, and then each week I'll do an episode where we LuReview the league's week, or maybe fortnightly, and we discussed like the big tradesthat happened, the big wins for each player and coach and team andstuff like that. nothingly, I get to win. So yeah, becauseyou've wouldn't in last year, I pumped you in the in the semis.Yeah, Hitler's oven, pumped Gotcha. To those that you can't you can'tfind. Well, you made it. Your name made on fantasy. Howelse am I mean to say. Yeah, see me. All right, that'llwrap us up. I think we so change my name, Utim forMVP. Thank you. Yeah, on his list, Yaddmg. Twenty onethere right in brackets. Got To get around the man like that. Butyeah, so tune in next week if...

...you want to hear us chat aboutthe how many other twenty other quarterbacks that missed out today. And Yeah,thanks for listening, thanks for joining me, boys, been a good episode.Thanks having and yeah, enjoy a weekend. Cheers when sucks.

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