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Episode 22 · 1 year ago

NFL - NFC Predictions 2020 - Episode 21

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Christian and James return to discuss the upcoming NFL season in particular the NFC with Hamish. The boys make their division by division predictions as well as some bold playoff and super bowl hot takes.

OCS welcome back to the honarble podcast.Today it is episode twenty one of the show we are talking about a sport thatwe've talked about before and I'm joined by the same guests who were onthat episode, so Christian Pillchar James Curdis,welcome back! Thank you, Mak glad to be back yeah. Thank Cork. Yeah should begood, pody, OPE yeah, so we're talking about the same sport NFL. We love a bit of nnfl or three. We Mad ANFL, fantasy players and just lovethe sport in general. So today we're going to be doing some NFL predictionsfor the NFC conference. Well, that does't really make senseTHATFC conference but yeah for the NFC. It's probably way too early to makethese calls, if we're honest, they're still like three months or somethingtokick off and some of the free agency signingshaven't even been completed. Yet you still got some guns out on the marketlike Cam, Newton, clowny, Everson Griffin, but we'll just see what we'rethinking for this year and we'll just go team by team similar to the AFLN, anrl one would just go team by team say where we've got them coming, why wethink they've gotten better or worse, and so on so forth? So should we justget straight into it? Lads yeah speaking of players on the market. YouTwo fellos but whatwhat, makes you not on the marketthat right, let's, let's get into thes,pretty yea exactly so we'll start up top. I went in thenever eat, sogy weet bik order, so we'll start with the NFC north. So lastyear the team Yeu finished on top of the NFC north was the Green Bay packers.They finished with the thirteen and free record my boys, where do we? Where do we havethe Green Bay packes finishing this year ads in the division? Obviously I'll startthat one off I've actually got them slipping down on spot to? Second, Ithink they, I think they were lucky to go. Thirteen and three last year had afew close winds, so I can see them losing a few more games and YEP. I'vegot them in it. Second art that last year they relied heavilyon Aaron Jones for touchdowns, and I can't see him pumping out seventeenagain this year and obviously in terms of receivers on offense they've got onereceiver capable of catching a ball and one receiver, whose name, I know so Ijusi can't say them producing the samelevel of outpurters last season. Yeah. What about you? Curtis? I've got themstill top in the NFC north. I don't see how I don't see, how anyone's going tocatch the margin that they had a last year. Three, a three games a thisperiod of the wiking, so I don't see how the Vikings are going to scrapeback and year those games. I haven't really lost anyone like and they haven'treally gained anything they're pretty much like the same was last year and I think a rogers will be betterthan last year. U Beause, it was his best season. What is I wasn't his worstseason, but just a pretty a season so yeah, you know I'm with you there cur itspretty much same reason. I'v still got them in first. I don't really think they're going tobe better or worse. If honest, I think,...

...maybe your points wer valid pilge, so Icould see them slipping a bit, maybe not notching up the thirteen winds, but they're, probably still too reliant onAdams and Jones, but it worked for them last year. So I think itw'll still workto a certain extent. This year, yeah and, as you said, curtis, I thinkRogers will be better this year, potentially them drafting a QB. May you know light of fire. Brogersmight want to show you how why he's like one of the top five tbs of alltime and not just slip away at the back of Minof the end of hiscareer, so they've lost Jimmy gram like Martinas, not nothing, special, really and the reason suf. I think they mightfall a couple winds like they might notch up, eleven wins or something. ButI actually also think the vikings are going to drop themselves yeah. I agree.I hundred percent agree with that as well. If you look at the Gans andlosses of the Vikings they don't they haven't picked up. So I went on a greatsauce nown as wikopedia on the on NFL, like wickipedi thing. They have prettymuch all the big signings and stuff and no one was big enough for the vikingslike and none of their pickups were big enough to be mentioned on the wickipedia thing, andI'm talking there's like a hundred and fifty on the wikipedia thing. So itseems as though they haven't gained anyone of note and although most of the players tht'velost, aren't insanely good, they did lose steff on digs, which I think willhurt and they lost three pieces to their pretty good defense. So I can't see a world where the vikingsare better this year. If I'm hodest, they don't really have anyone who'syoung. Maybe apart from Dalvon Cook, who is looking to improve like you,can't really see kirk cousins improving out of sight this year or anything they drafted. A few good players thatfor picks in the first three rounds, but it's always hard to rely on themstraight out of college and yeah. For me, I've actually got them dropping sofar that I've got them in third in this division, probably one of my more roadcalls, but Yeah I've got the bears finishing ahead of them. Part of my reasoning for this is thevikings lost their last for of lost four of their last six matches lastseason, including the playoff loss, and if you look at the teams the Vikingsbeat, they didn't really beat anyone of note and they actually had when youcalculate the strength of their victory. So you add up the percentage like youwork out the average percentage of the teams they beat. They actually had aweaker strength of victory than the bears and the Lions, which is prettyinsane considering the lines only bet like three teams, so that kind of suggestat the vikings abit of a flat track bully, beat the teams Belo that they should beat andthat as about it, so I've got them in third. Where do youguys have them coming? I have got them in third as well.Actually I I think the same as you, I think, as well as the packers theyregoing to win a couple, less games, maybe eight and eight nine and sevenpotentially, but I do have them dropping into third as well wait didyou say the packers are going to come. Second, correct, R, silly implications! What where do you have te Talke iscoming Russell Qoit, I still gon them coming in. Second, I completely agreewith everything you said, but I I still can't see the bears just jumping aheadof them like, as you said, they bet everyone that they needed to beat lastyear and I'l. say them still doing that this year and I think clousans, while e Wan to getbetter. You still have a pretty consistent season. You do Wen con geteven better, so I mean if he has another big Yar, I don't see why theywill drop to th third, and I don't see...

...why that move up to. First, so I mean:do Ta stay stable, they'll, probably win couple less games, but yeah, Ithink they'll set it second, when it is all said and done fair points, I think you two will agreethat this particular division is one of the strongest in the NFL. I disagree. I think that O I I think right, but I think the Viking are stilla sniff of the playoffs. The sport coming thorrd agree. Agree with that.One well go through our wild card teams,then so we'll say who, like whe, think of the better divisions, an stuff. Iactually came into this prediction thinking these t. This is one of thebetter divisions, but now I've done the gains and losses and stuff, and Icompare it to the other divisions, especially in the NFC. I actually thinkthis is one of the weaker divisions. If ' honest, I think it's the third bestdvision in the NFC, if I'm honest above the NFC east, but I think it's worsethan the south and the West Yeah. The worst is insanely strong, so yeah theWest is probably no doubt the top in the whole NFL. If I'm honest a yeah, I don't know. I just think thepackers in the Vikings will get worse this year. I don't know which divisionthey played last year, but this year, they're playing the NSC south who have the Falcons buccaneers and saints.The saints are a Great Team Falcons and BUCCON is probably looking to improvethis year and then the AFC south, which is not the strongest division, but thecolts, the Texans they're, all the titans. All three of those are reallyhard teams to beat. So I definitely think the records of this division ingeneral are going to get worse, not not the lions. I don't think they will begetting three wins or less this year, but I think the Packesan Vikings willstruggle to meet the standard they set for themselves lastyear, so pilch, you've, clicked baited, ushim mate.You've got your first spot open and we've only got the bears and Lionesleft so who have you got a number one come on Brip the Bandat off? Well, I certainly don't have theChicago bears. I think t ey theyv worse like what about Eorte Curtes, wefucking called it actual ile. The bears will still bedecent. Th Bears. Won'tbe won't be shocking,but I think this is this. Is All those lions fans out there the absolutemasses? This is our yeah. I think the Lions, if not sixteen, and Oh at leastthird in winds, Kenny Golla Day, will rack up the most yards, most touchdownsMatt Stufford the same because he's back from his broken back and all theall the young players Ar just are going to break out. So you boys, may think it's a it's anoutrageous call, but I'm sticking with I'm sticking with it and we'll seeinsix months time nayoly. I didn't even care about thecall, if you could justify it and you've just gone ahead and absolutelycooked yourself over by saying suggesting they could go fromthree hund. Thirteen to sixteen and O you've forced all credibility and quiteRi. I think I think that was the stiffest three and thirteen of all timewere their attempteofiheon. We were robbed by the S on around at leastthree occasions, and our quarterback broke his back halfway through theseason. So obviously we werenot going to win a game after that yeah, but going three wins to thirteenin one season. How many? How many wins did the did? San Francisco have in twothousand and eighteen we're like seven May and we did ot V. So it's been, it's been done beforeit's been done before and it'll be done again. I don't actually know if it has. That is an outrageous coall ol rightwhatever, and I just like to point out...

...the kind of Fam pilches he's just saidOu and we for the lions. Yet he called the Green Bay packers, my boys, whowere a severe division rival. So that's justthe kind, a bit of insight into the kind of Fan pilches but yeah. That'sright. I'll, definitely say the lines areimproving this year, as you said, pread Grad three wins. Last year it was verystiff. They actually were quite impressive in the opening month andthen obviously stuff had got injured and the back up CBS couldn't really getthe job done. Also their main running back was injured from about round four or something I don't know pretty early on Thea. I think the carryon swift transition will be unreal as well. I wouldn't go that far, but I thinkit'll be an Improveng on last year, where which at stages they were using,like fourth string running back Sto de Jode, micaust yeah, so thee. If you look at the gains andlosses, they've only lost an Olineman and Diri Sleigh, and alsoyou could argue that Dai slave is kind of past, his prime, but still greatcornerback, but then they've gone ahead and replaced him with Jamie Colins and Danny Shelton of thePatriots so they're, obviously star playrs. If they're coming from thePatriots, Defense Stars of the gun, Yeah Vati who's, a great O, Lineman andthey've picked up desmon truth on who is the cornerback to go with their third Rit, their third draftick, not sodraftic like the third pick of the draft Jeffe Cudar. So they definitelywill improve. I don't know it's hard to put a number on how many wins they'llget. I can't see them picking up more than one winfrom the divisional matches. If I'm honest out of those six matches againstPackers Vikings bears that they're very tough games. No, that is ourageous onehean from six yeah. They went utre from sixteen lae avy and then against the NFC south. Similarly, good luck to beating theFalcon's, buccaneers or saints so I'll give them one at one out of four thereand then the AFC Southi'll give them a few winsday I'll, give them two orthree. So I find it hard to see them winning more than six or seven matchesif I'm serious, but I definitely think that will improve and it's hard to say,really they're a bit of an unknown quantity with stuff at being out formost of last year. So that means you've got the bears andfourth curtis who do you have in third, so I've got the bays and third and thelies an force. So I completely agree pet Mich. Every sa you're Gonbe thesame arders last year, Yep Yep, identical completely agreewtheverything Yeu said about the lives, don't feel like there's much to add. Tobe honest, I think they'll be be better than last year, but not traumatically,and but I see the we about five or six games and then the bears. The BAS is a hardone. For me to be honest, and I think felit really hard to Cho between themfinishing second or third. Obviously, they've got a baste. Do that P, prettymuch o perform as well as expected. Last year BARC and I beot Backlesia,and I had probably the most under performing Qb last year in Trebisky,people were hypin thiss Madia a mvpa prospect after twenty Idin, but yeah last year wasabsolute disgrace. So that's why I find it real hard, well see what Contribeskywe get this year and we'll see where the beards finished. But I feel likethat, the Marginay, but there's a definitechance. They cooking your second and...

...who knows maybe surprise es and coming. First, that's O righteous bid call, but Iactually don't mind it, given the fact that I agree with you that the PakisanVikings will be bit worse this year, well, lot o you wo expecting from thebears offense I iwell apart from absolute harsshit.Apart from that, Tuvke was taasa potential nvt prospect between INEIGHand had igoblly the worst Ason. You can see from someone who's tanded as highlyas that, so he even gets to you know five percent tem percent bed than lastyear. He's he's like I mean their genuine chance to. I think at leastsecond yeah. I've got them in second they'vemade some good signings haven't really lost anyone who's too key. As you mentioned, Pilch, their struggleis in attack and the only players heave lost hae, been on the defensive side ofthe ball. They've signed, Ted Gin, junior who's bit of a Journeyman, buthe's always been a great wide receiver. Jimmy Grain at times can be a goodtight end and nickfoles will probably add a bit of competition to Tribiky.folls entribusky had pretty average last seasons. But if you looked at twoyears ago, both were in really good form and highly touted quarterbacks,and then they vated Robert Quinn from the Dallas cowboys, to line up next toKillil Mac, which is a pretty scary prospect. The reason I've got them insecond is: They went eight nate last year and they were crap last year, likethe amount of times you watch the bears and you'le just like they can't movethe ball. This is so stupid, like it's just rubbish to watch, but they stillweren't, eight and eight. So with my logic that the vikings aregoing to get worse and they went ten six last year, I can't really based onthe that logic, its Har to put the bears below the Viking. So I I don'tthink the bears. I think the bears will be one of the worst teams to come,second in a division in the NFL next year, but I do have them coming in second, butyeah, as you were saying pilch. The big question is how the offense performsthey're going to start they're going to need to put up more than like fifteenpoints, a game which is basically what they were doing last year. So yeahtough division to predict, though, as we all three of US had different ordersbut yeah it's going to be an interesting one to follow. I just wantto mention this has got nothing to do with NFL, but you HVEC, two ifties on right now and aman does just became the first fighte of all time to come on defend belts intwo different weight divisions. So arguably she just became the goat of MMA, butanyway, set out to Amanda Yeah good good good for you from here. So that'sit for the NSC north, the end or Vyou. You want to say anything else before wemove on to the east. No I'M O! Let's go to this head! That'shead to the east, yeah it' said to just one thing: Everson Griffin, he's avikings defensive, Lieman and he's like one of the best de Limen in in theleague, so he's still free agent. So he goes somewhere else other than theVikings. That's. A further reason for the Vikings to drop yeat well had towell hade to never eat so we're down to eat. Well, GO NFC, east! Well start with the team who won thisdivision last year. It was probably the worst division in the league last year.I think, am I wrongin sane, no, absolutely correct. Basicalycowboys and egls were basically just dog fighting to get the playoff spot,but neeither probably deserved it realistically, so we'll go thePhiladelphia Eagles. I've actually got them in. First again, it's a big shout.I know ever run's high on the cowboys...

Bamwagon, but what I have to post toeveryone, who's saying this is what, where have the cowboys actuallyimproved? Like yes, sick? They drafted CD, lamb, goodon them. They were already like an elite attack, a like attacking team.They added a D Liman, but they lost Robert Quinn. So that's like a one forone: They've Lost Byron Jones, the Vost Jason Witton, who at times last year,was really crucial to them. Theyve Lost Travis, Frederick WHO's. What been oneof the best centers in the NFL in the last ten years so yeah, I see the appeal to them.There they're sexy team. If I can't, if I can say that, but for me I don'treally see what they're improving on on last year. I guess you could argue. Thenew coach could add a little bit of Paza to the cowboys attacking schemes,but I think that might take a little alittle while before Mik McCarthy's game style is shown in the teams,performances and yeah. They also have a tough draw. Theyhave to play the NSC west, which is arguably the best division in theLeague, and then they've got the AFC north, who have the ravens, steels andBrowns, who are all three pretty tough teams. So Yeah I've got the eaglesabove the cowboys the eagles. They lost quite a few players, but no one reallyhave knote like they lost Nelson Agalaw, who was like a fourh string, witereceiver, Jordan, Howard and they added to pretty good cornerbacks and robe comand and Diri Sleigh, which was a major issue for the eagles last year. Last year they finished above thecowboys and their whole receiving car was basically injured. Carson wensplayed through injury, so I think the fact similar to the bears logic. Theyweren't t their peak last year, but they still went nine and seven. So Istruggle to see how they're going to be worse this year, so I've got them finishing about thecowboys. Do you guys share that opinion or Haf?You got the cowboys of other the Eagles I've got. I've got the cowboys abovethe Eagles yeah got the cowboys Bo theswell. I jus feellike one of the points you metionedthe shifting coach. I mean the ThiCocialastean, the prevouss ECA whatis absolute arsol riht is probably theworst coach in the Soe at the time and somenhow es manage to keep his job, butanyway is off now. So it doesn't matter up andI feel like that's going to be a huge deciding and determinng fact er for thecareboy, so I see them io top spot, and then I sey the eagles. A close second yeah completely agree thee. I do think the cowboys being heavilyoverrated by YEA by the media. As you said, Korkoski of saying people predictthem to go like thirteen and three, even fourteen and two. I think that'soutrageous. But having said that are still, I still think they'll finish above theeagles because of the Changin, the changing coach, because their list is, I think they have one of the mosttalented, especially offensis yeah fin. The comment: opportunise definitelyrigtYeah Te Dayis a bit dodging but like it is, you know they say: MLBA GAM LEAGUENBA to play League and and it fells a coaches Leagu. So if that's the case,then, if Tey Shu, Tin Croach, hopefully that's wil- have a huge impact. Some words of destiny. Rottecortdefinitely has the potential for them to improve a lot more than the eagles.Do I think, Ther Eagles, I think the eagles will maybe producean extra win and the cowboys an extra...

...couple wins, but I'll still think thegiants and red skisins will be absolutely dogshit. Yeah. Another point for the cowboys Zecond duck they're still young. Soit's hard to see why they would be worse. This year than they have been inthe previous few season, so that's another reason why the cowbosh should improve realistically yeah, asyou were, mentioning Pilch the giants of Redskins. I've gotthem as the two worst teams in the NFC. I don't think I agree with they were.They were first and third worst Detroit war splitting them last year, but, aswe've mentioned earlier, DETROIT WOMT pis bad this year, and I just comparingthem to the teams. I've got forthcoming in the other divisions. I don't thinkthey compare at all. I think they're way worse. I've got the giantsfinishing above the redskins purely on the fact that I think they'vejust gotten more upside they've got a greater ability to score points. Ithink which is always important. The defense is probably worse an theRedskins, but I can't really see the red skins everscoring more than twenty points of monest with Haskins and like Daris, gueese andstuff, like that, where the giants have a pretty goodattack. If Dan Jones can get his shit together and stop dropping the ball, they've drafted Andrew Thomas andOliman, and pick for to help out SAKUON and theyr receiving cause pretty bloodygood evaningrim missed a lot of last year, so he'll be back your boy, CurtisYeah, Ripar Tidi, and then, if they get slaten shepherds and Golden Tate in thefield at once, which they struggle to last year, they actually might have afew points in them. If monest so, do you guys have the giants above theRedskins? I do, but I think they're both putred yeah I'll, be honest. Therewasn't much log yeah. I think I think the redskins are the worst team in thecompetition. Far Again, you boys, dog, with theGoran to be Ark, an the jarance gonna, be better than your. They Shul theycertainly won't be yeah, but you think Dan Jones is the second coming of JesusChrist. Mai, don't think Thatyo do ldlove Dan joeyounamed alot of goodRassas, Wy Theutyou just call them the second worst team in the NFC. But thenyou just listed a ton of good reasons why they byeah, but I just didn'tmention the defense yeah and they conceded the second most points in theleague last year. I think that draftefor that, except for Thei, FulPik, so hopefully I mean they've- got as you said, say: Quon they've, Goup,Dan jomes, whoif Yeu, get rid of his fumbling, as you said, could be a beastYouor Evan Ingram, who was injured all of last year, much the same as say, Qaln. Actually so the fact sakeone didn't do much last year did h. Did E washeas injured for quite s yeah, that's true! So I don't seeanyhow, they could slip to be any worse than they were last year and I don'tsee how they can be worse than panters the wines and the redskins shoes, or I think, Ole saying thattheyr be better than the lines is ridiculous. I think I think they havegreater upside than teams like the panthers, maybe not the Lions, but Ithink I think it pat to suck as well. I think the panthers are solid unit,though like they're, not good. In any part of the field, but they're notawful in any part of the field where the giants defense is pretty bloodyaverage and like genuinely deat Dan Jones, his young. So he could come outand blits this year, but like realistically I's a bottom five QV inthe league, so in e leage yeah, but lot om fine got bottom five yeah. Idon't think that's that big of a call...

...for honest. I think I think he has alot of upside, though name in NFC quarterback part from Joyane Huskinswho's worse than him, and you can't include tribisky.Actually Tao is ite AFC brother yeah, but youcan't say someone who letter team to the AFC championship game is worse thandangeants like on. They used Henry as ther out an OU offensive weapon yeah,but he's lot the marsal boys from what we've seen so far. Then, obviously you can't say that DanJones is a beast, but he had. He has a lot more actually got goff his worseffi Fucingout, nspotogaphic memory, butlike we've seen it before, where Qbis just break out in the second or thirdyear, so that like it, could happen with Dan Jones. It may not happen, butit does have upside yeah. Now I like Denjer, and so, if youcan holse a great bark, great bark, well t, what's that going off, O abjust got thatjust got. I think theycould be a bit like Tempa last year, but maybe a little bit worse, where, ifthey, if they're on, they can put up forty points against the team, and it'sjust a matter of how much they can see. Basically but yeah with the ball,they'll be quite dangerous, but yeah I've got them bove the Redskins yeah, Ithink you said the Redskins or the worst in the leag pitch. I do thinkthey are one of yeah t e worst in the league yeah. I can't really think of ateam who is worse to be honest. I've been bangles the BANGALS, probably upthere but yeah. I was bout to say bangals and Red Tikins and that's aboutyeah theyre, probably worse, so that's it for that little division, probably looking likethey're going to be the worst ANFC division again, I think they will beas.Well, I think the cowboys and eagles will both be improved. The NF Southwe've got the saints where I've got them coming first, yet again, I don'tthink they had a six win gap on second last year in their division, and Ican't really see either the Falcons or tempe making up that gap. The saintshaven't really gotten worse. If I'm honest th, U h the only thing thatcould jeopardize the the saint season would be another drubre's injury,because I think James would be a step down from teddy as a replacement forbreeze, but that's a low chance, thet added a emmanual sanders which willonly help Michael Thomas you'd, think and Kamar still there Jaed Cook and they've got a pretty good defense,but martial lot of more later, more and stuff. So I don't really see how thesaints are getting worse. Where do you guys have them coming yeah? I thinkit's a no brainer having the sants in first and I think between them and Detroit, one of themwill take out the the top spot come end of season in the whole conference. Youdidn't have to mention the Detroit call for the rest of the episode, but you'vejust ruined another call of yours. Yet again, Curtos wherehave, you got themfinishing, bother obsul a the San top an at this hour,followed by the Bok in not not tro. Far of second, so I cansee the bucks maybe pushing the sane to bit but yeah the same to top of theadeICAN, yeah, no brainer, no braine yeah. Ithink people are probably going a bit too hoton the old on the old buccaneers, but I can see the appeal of it and it's a bitfun to get around a new team. A that...

...good offense to be life were fullyhonitts like you got Rady, not no Eoo, Fris God, when day you've got your yeah,you got Argu the best within Youo CA believe so I they're not definitely butand then you've got groncasty coming back. You wul have strengthan offentivewime the defensis, where Arikan theyre big dodgy, but I stillthink they can push this Anto bit yeah. So do you both have them in second yeah yeah yeah, just yea I've. Actually I've actually got oufalcons ahead of them. Yeah, I'm actually pretty untorn. To be honest,because I can see the Falcons Falcons is a tough one. In my opinion, go t, they couldn'tget do anything yeah. It'sthere's a few teams that are getting a bit tough to predict now, because yougot teams like the rams, the eagles. The Falcons who only recently have madesuper bowl runs, but they have just kind of fallen off a cliff, but Iactually think the falcons are a really good team and they just had a shockingstart till last season, they've added tod, Girli and Dante Fowler. If girl isin two thousand and eighteen form, I think this team goes to another level.Devonto Freman has now left them as Afra agent. I think he's one of theworst starting running backs of last sut like out of the starting runningbacks last year. I think he was one of the worst and, if Girli returns to hispeak, yeah they'll just add another element, because you obviously got MattRyan, Cavan, Ridley, holio Jones, so to add a a running element to this team. Ithink thatwould take the offense to another level. Dante Fowler is anupgrade on their passrush, currently his great player from the round intheir last eight matches. Last year they went, they won six of thei lasteight, so they came home really strong. They beat theforty niners in buzzer beater. Basically, that lastplay great catch. I think it was holy. I can't remember, though, and out of as I was mentioning beforethe strength of victory start where they average out the percentages of theteams. You've beaten, they actually had the highest strength of victory in thewhole NFC. So, although interesting it's a it's astart, you need to take with a grain of salt, because its also means they'veprobably lost us some shit teams, but they have the ability to beat the bestsides on their day and yeah. I'm convinced that it was just a pickupearly on in the season and that the six and eight are the six wins and eigtmatches for the LA T. Second Alf the year is actually a true reflection ofhow good the falcons are, so I've got them in second still a fair way off thesaints I don't see they had seven, seven and nine lastyear. I can't really see them going anymore than ten and six, but I think they'll bebetter. I've got the bucconees and third everyone's hod on the buccaneers,but I don't know I think theyre avery tough team to predict. I thinkeveryone's going a bit too hard on them a bit like the cowboys. I thinkeveryone needs to just really take a look at who they've actually added tothe team like they've had a Tom Brady, who obviously is the goat es the FOSSLlack of Alto Lin, but yeah he's ancient like he could hardly throw the ball morethan twenty yards and and his I don't Kno. I can't remember how old he ishe's like forty one or something he's forty time. These days is about eightpoint: Nine Yeah exactly and they've got rob Groncrasky who's coming out ofher time, and so I think it's going to he's just a genuine athlete, sowouldn't surprise being the slihs. If you just came back and was as good ashe was, but I definitely think it might...

...take him a few months to ease into his prime again. They did go similar to the Falcons.They had five wins in their final eight matches last year, so they came homestrong but yeah. As I mentioned earlier, the Combo of an ancient quarterback,but also no notable running back really I've seen that's a huge risk. The teamswith no running back, you really want pass. Heavy offense with a greatquarterback is really elusive and won't take many big hits, but I think I'd beworried about Tom Brady's health if IM monest, if they're going to be passingit like forty fifty times a match so yeah their defense was the biggest issuelast year and they just didn't address that whatsoever and o Yo Prel, O o putthat down to Winston's dirty ord interceptions. So theyw're turn ing theball over a lot. They did still conceede the third most points in theNFC, so I think they're, a big broom, more bus team. I could easily see themhaving huge upside and getting like eleven or twelve winds, but yeah I'vegot the Falcons ahead of them. whatwhat. Are you guys reckon yeah? Ithink those two sides are quite similar in that respect, and but I think thatgirly, how many times is he? How many times has he done his knee Yeahas injuyeah? I don't think he'll. Idon't think he'll go back to his old form, especially can ye doing thatthey're past heavy offense as well, but the bucks and the Falcons I could seethem like you said each of them having huge years or also four years, considering how much theyreveryone's hyping up the bucks, especially yeah. What do you think Os Yeah Arking, the box ahead of theFalcons and literally just because of Tog girly inrelation to the Falcons,are just recking the fact that the ram just got rid of him that Jus signol o me that thereis likeserious, like medical issues with in andly, so I don't actually even seegeing on the Piach that much and contribune so oaan. They might have tobe looking at a second string running back yeah. So it's equal, a not yeah therethere's what there's always worries with with Girli Thas Doy yeah T it's abig question mark and it let's be real, like a lot ofwhat I was saying, how they will improve was down to adding a running LeElement to their attack. So if he is still injurdin got question marks nextto his name every week, I think it's hard to see them improving too much onlast year. We've all got the panthers in Fourth, Iimagine yep yeap, absolutely the anthers defense is going to beabsolutely shocking, Yeah Thi last last year as well, but they lost, they losteven more players. Yeah, they lost Gerald McCoy, Luk Kehley, JamesBratbury and Bru Servan, who, in all of their own rights, are great players. So yeah, as you mentioned, they had theworst defense in the NFC and to lose for key pillars in that defense. It'sjust going to be hard for them toreally stop anyone. Basically, they did draft a couple d linemen in their withtheir first two picks in the draft, but it's always hard to rely on them earlyon in their career. The obvious pick up here was teddybridgewater, which I think will obviously be an improvement on lastyear because they were dealing with Kal Allan whodidn't really. He had a great first match for then, after that e Wal didn'treally do much. They've also gained Russlo Kon, one of the best tuckles inthe business, which were no doubt help out Christian McCaffrey, who it's hardto. Imagine him having a bad year as...

...he's clearly the best running back inthe league. But Oh that's cook. How a Ba Ain, Hewak, okay, so Christmic Cafr is the best running backand the best wate eceiver he'd, probably be the best cornerbackas well. If he yead a crack, afree's versatility probably gives him the nod,but- and it's just hard to like, I know they go to him for every single play,but like it's just hard to argue with his starts really, but I'm actuallyMcCaffrey last season playeit on like ninety five percent of the Pante snaps are somethingridiculous and it was like fifteen percent higher than any other runningback in the entire competition yeah. So the man is a freak, but you've got a wonder. There will be apoint where I know he's still coing, but he will break down at some point,especially with Haut Port O workloade. I think I think the panters attacks nottoo bad, though orm honest youve got rit here, throwing just sor. So I now like in terms of percentage Yep interms of best best Arban League of pure pure running pure running. Back thenhe's in the conversation is ro Gard. The game yeah he's probably like more explosivebecause he's bigger stronger than Christi mccaffre bad. He did haveer. Hedid have a much better oline though Darre Henry Yeah. I don't know if I'dsay Hes reter than him, but yeah it's hard to say really, especially when, aswe just mentioned, Christia Mercafrey gets pretty much every single pantersplay so the attacks not too bad. You gotMcCaffrey. Then you got Teddy Bridge Water, throwing to DJ more RobbieAnderson. Who was that we say she at the other week, pice D, You rememberwho o San this second Codo Samuel so dj more as actually pretty good. Last yearand Robbie Anderson was pretty decent for a shot New York jets team, so theymight be all right, an attack but yeah s. They do mornts D J morwill be a topten receiver hundred percent yeah. Their defense is pretty bad they're ina tough division. It's hard to see them getting it even get one match out oftheir division. With the Saints Falcons Buccaneers, then they've got to go UFagainst the NFC north, as we said fairly strong division, so itw'll betough to beat them AFC west. Who knows they could put up a little bit of a fight againstLost Vegas Denver the charges, but yeah, don't think they'll have too muchsuccess this year and finally, to bring us home. We've got the NFC west, the best division of last season by anabsolute mind, I'd, say: Cordis's favorite, division, Yeah Lovean Inc, so we've got the forty nines in firstlast year they went thirteen and three. Where do you guys have then coming thisyear talking to it again, miht just justwhipping out the the winds like as Yarican, don't see, Jimmy gating worse only seeJimmy getting better you've added Ar you, even though you're rid of sandersbut Lett be honest. Andurs didn't do too much last year anyway, so and yeah. I feel like they're stillgoing to be an elate running back team and yeah top in I ut, as they should yeah. Well, I've actually gotbe. Fortynine is in fourth this year. Sorry was I justno brain no brain oo. I had I hadthe cursor on the kickbutton from this Yeayou Jona. As going NA kick you, youwould do that yeah Wif. You said that Youyou've justruined two divisions but yeah you got Tho mean I got them in first. I've gotthem in alrigt. I can't see, although, although the other three teams aregreat sides can't see them topin the...

Niners, I've got them in first. At one point Idid have the seahawks in at first but yeah. I don't know I just find it seeit hard to find it hard to put their seahawksabove them, giving how dominant the nine as well last year, they have lost ammanual Sandes inTefores Buckner who, as you mentioned, Curtes Sanders, probably didn't, havemuch of a statistical output, but I feel like he attracted the attention ofdefense, which allowed Debo Samuel and George Kiddell to probably go to work abit easier. So I think that that impact of the loss of him might hurt a littlebit to forest. Buckman has gone as well, who was pretty damaging in the dline,but there's so much depth in the nine is dline. I think they'll be able tocover that they've had a tremp Williams who, after the contractor bark or withthe Redskins, is finally settled on where you'll play he'll play t theniners, who is one of the best tuckles in the game, so that'll further helpthe running backs to the niners. I think they might be a little bit lessdominant, as kind of everyone knows the way theyplay now, but they still did last year and no onecould really stop it, so I've got them coming first, they were just rolling through teamslast year and it's going to be hard for teams to stop them again. This yearthey absolutely rolled through my packers as well in the in the seasonn in the playoff. You needto stop this Horse Shit, gof, saying we and ask for the Lionsand then to my packers just hop off it. Man said the packers. I said My. I thinkit's a good point with teams might start working. The the NIGNT is outthis year, yeah, but it's another they'll, still ben teams over yeah.It's one thing to work them out and it's another thing to actually stopthem Ye, true and just quietly there. This division is going to do absolutedamage to the competition, like, I think, is it even possible, but Ireckon they all have double diget wins. I don't think it's possible, butthey're playing the AFC east, which is the worst division in the competitionand they've got the NFC east, which is the worst division in the NFC, so Ithink their records. I don't know once again. I don't know if it'smathematically possible, but it wouldn't surprise me: Iffall, fourteams come away with Pos. I season. I don't know about t e, the cardinals, Idon't think they're quite ready to produce those sort of double digit yeah. That was probably a stretch. Sohave you both got the seahawks in it? Second Yep I do see. I've got their amorders last year, actually yeah interesting W. Why have you got theSeahawks at second? Well, they're, just they're, just asolid side, great offense, good, good, running game, good parsing game,probably top three quarterback in the league. If you Ayays, would agree withthat one yeah they're, just I can't tell aone. Definitely I can't see themdropping off and they were eleven and five and then the rams. I don't think the rams will catch them.I think they will get worse and then the cardinals just staret quite there,yet so not too hard of a decision for me, Yeah Curtis. Why do you reckon they will besecond mate? Just a strong organization generallywell coached, what a Fou young receivers like dk Mat,caff seeing game better, so I don't see them dropping in anyway, and I maybe scrape another wing win or twomaybe but tee in three, maybe hat' a bit bit of a stretch for Twe twelveproblem for o Cang see so...

...yeah. I think hll just sit Nastinsecond again and find their way in the Pinof yeah. Definitely I definitely thinkthey'll be there at the end of the season, but we'lltouching that in a little bit later, it's hard to know how much theirsuccess came down to Wilson being in the form of his lifelast year or not like I don't know, but the thing is, I don'tsee him getting worse. Thi Year, like I think, you'll probably produce similarkind of numbers, so I don't think they have to worry in. In that respect, theyhaven't really lost anyone either, which is big, big plus they've odded,Philip doorset fom, the Patriots and a couple people just to fill out their defense. So that's big for them. Gedevion clanyis still not being resigned yet, but I do think he'll resign, which would beanother big resigning for them. Yeah, as you guys have mentioned, Idon't think they're as good as the nines, but they're better than the ramsand the cardinals. That's pretty much all you need to know exactly right. I think they're prettycomfortable in its second there, but yeah I've actually gone a bit of a shockhere. I think, if I can say this, I think this is apretty average call, but I have I have bitten into the hype. I've gone thecardinals thid. I do think the cardinals are verylikely to be like the brands of last year. They came into the season,everyone's bigin them up, and then they come out of it, never look in theirwounds and everyone's like well. That was one of the worst predictions of alltime. I don't know, I just think addingDandre Hopkins and I genuinely recognize Thei ssimmons is going to bea freak out of the DRAUT Kylamury. I think he'll take the nextstep this year. I think he's going to be an absolute superstar, Canyou Drake,even though he was there at the end of last year, he's an improvement on David,Johnson and yeah. They've already got a few stars and defence with butter,Baker and Chanla Jones, but I don't know, I just think the cardinalsthey've just got all the pieces really to be good side and the ramps, I don't know, they'vegot so many outs, like their losses, goes for like four lines on my worddocument, which is unheard of Theye lost, tod girly Dante fell, cory,Littleton Eric Weddll, brandon cooks, so many names there are so muchexperience, so many key players to their lineup. However, I do think theirsuccess comes down to golf. I think golf is like last year. I actuallygenuinely can see the cardinals finishing above them if golf improveson last year, and it is a lot better. I can't really see the cardials competingwith them and they'll be more up with the nine as the Seahawks, but I reckon I'd be putting my money on himplaying like last year for honest yeah. Just the defense is going to takea huge impact from some of those outs cory, Littleton and Eric Weddll. Theystarted every single game of last year and along with Dante, Fowler. Those threehad the three of the four highest snap counts in the whole defense of the LosAngeles Ram. So you're seriously taking your away three vital parts to that.Linup- and I don't know- I think they- they still have some of the bestplayers in the league with Aaron donalds Ja, on Ransy, even Cooper Cupand robirt woods, pretty handy white receivers, but yeah I'm back in thecardinals, but I am willing to admit it's pretty risky and probably not themost likely call Curtis you've. Gote the same. Why doyou reckon the cardinals will still be forth? ACAN, the kindos that they gettingbetter for sure ijust? Don't see them jumping above the rams, the Ranzosuperbowl team from to yearsio that...

...they still kept the main players ofthat, but Tog gearly, really n Wecbas an abslutel beast of a coach Hes, so Ijust think mcvaiwill sort something out and I think they will sit. inthird they'lldo nothing special, but they won't be Dogsi, Yeah Yeah, I think on paper. Thecardinals do look quite spicy, but I struggle to see aworld where the rams finished in fourth, although it's a tough division, justgiven the r their experience, the fact they were a super bowl team, two yearsyo as Coud as just said and Micvay as well. So it's more of AIT's, more of a gutfeeling based decision for me on this one. I just can't really see I ancoming forth yeah. It is a weird call for me because it'sbasically the same situation as the bears, but they're a little bit betterlike they didn't play that well last year, but they still went nine andseven. So it is a weird call, but I think theyprobably have one of the worst qbrb combods in the league in golf and well.We don't even know who it's going to be, but probably Henderson or Malcol Brown, so I think and to lose those keydefenders. I don't know I just don't see it being too successful for theirams to Shar, but as we mentioned, they have a soft drawer. So I think all forof these teams are going to happen. The same records yeah so yeah, it w'll, bean exciting division to watch now. O Tome. Golf deferen then needs tostep up yeah. Here's the big well as most quarterbacks are for their sides,but he's a big indicator of how much success they have so we've clearlystated our winning teams now who do we have as the wild cards? So it's going to be hard, since we allhave different division winners. Buti'll start us off I'ven't actuallywritten this down before. So I'm just going to work my way through, so we'vegot three wild cards this year, they've extended it from six til seven. So I'vegot the city hawks are definitely taking one for a gread yeah I'll, give the cowboysanother and I'll give the Falcons I'll give the falcons. Mythird one so pretty rogue for the Falcons to jumpback into the playoff pitcture. But that's my three wild cards. What aboutyou? Curtis Vebrot, the SEAHAWKS. As you said, I rothe Vikings because I had the mistaken, but obviously if the bears jump them, Ican see the beers be in there and then I go to eagles in the East Nice. I just want to mentioninteresting. I think you have the exact same playoff picture curtisis last year,just adding the dallas cowboys as thirs now seventeen, but I won't dog yourTactua Fair point that I did not but yeah that Asit's only one year removedfrom that situation, so the orvos is still going to be good teams. That's afair call pilch. What have you got that? Well, the SEAHAWKS and the packers?Definitely, and then it's a quite tough for the seventh spot. But for me it's between the Vikings or one of Falcon's faccaneers, but I'm going togo with the Vikings. I think the people I think people are sleeping on thevikings a bit this year. I reckand they were. They were better than ten and sixside last year and I think they'll still be quite solid, yeah Ye, sbyassleeping on them, but you've put them below the Detroit Liones, so yeah. But,as I said, I think that's one of the strongest divisions in the competition.Well, it obviously is the strongest division in the competition if you'vegot three of them in the playoff...

...picture. Indeed, Gran so who are wepicking is our number one seed in the NFC by the end of the season, I'm going to lock in I'm going to go the forty nineis due totheir soft, draw against the NFCESAF ceast. What about you, boys, yeah death, locking the my boy than ies you wil? You would do that with ECA ell, a J for MVP yeah, so everyone'ssleeping on Matt staffords, but I'm gonna I'm actually going to go thesaints, I'm not going to say the Liones, because I'll get kicked from thePODCAST, so I'll go Geah Oshate it iyou, Jusad, theliethit, three seaovone. Sowhat's the SA having fourteen an two well, as we saw with last season, metthe packers in science went thirte and three and they didn't they didn'tclinch. It did that True Alrig, I'm going with the tints yeah fair enough and then final question forit almost wrapping up at the our Mark Beautiful. I love to see it poultry inmotion, but who have we got to making the superbowl as the NFC representative?It's a rogue question, pretty tough to come away with it really curtis joing to go. First Mate: Moris,pretty obvious to be ENI. The Nines Yeah Fuck Saman Good, to see you two ofthe most biased sports fans of all taseatethings right, O, that's niceit's,hard to say, Thatyeah I'll. Give that to you it's hard to say your bias, butYeah Curtis piled. So you can go first call I'll got the sates. I think I think breeze will just carrythem over the line to have one more crack at the ring before he departs atthe end. He'll retire, ond a he'll retire in a superbowl ring. That's mycall, or that is a big call. Yeah Yeah I pretty SAF pretty stiff for theAFC boys, not even getting the shout but yeah I'll go the sants yeah. I'MGOINTA GO WITH DETROIT LINES: Oon Yeah Nice. The thing is because we've ripped you so much now Iwant the Detroit lines to be rubbish. Sow You just look like an idiot, butthe thing is I actually like to Trai you andi a likeme good this year, I'mnot Lomat Youar, the SST boy to Uing the podcasing other people to suffer no,no one! I No! I just want you to pay for just being a dicket in Thi Stolcone Di Hard Detroit lins ban, and I really believe my boys will be will beright up there. This season, Yeah Gon, is for right. You don't need to wantthem to be shoitmate because they're just going to be shit anyway, likeYever, I don't want them to be IM IIN to toyt noit, just m theyre goin to bea Utoy intyeah. I think. That's, probably you guys s having man calledKenny Golleday, but that's right, yeah! Well, he played for them last year,mate and the record says he three twelve and one so I'm sure not surewhat Kennyes are bringing to that a shes living in the pastman living inthe past. So you curtis with your none isbullshit Yiin the path Wen. We've only gotbettfmate ands, just scared from that superbowl loss. How have you got retherrigh? We got e young Betteran, absolute bast and Yo'll be the best wie receive.I added Thi Draft Class CE. Now, that's a so that's nograceful, that's byJaustin Jefferson, that's Whyi,...

...genuinely think Ayou call be betterthan Sandes, but I that's a genuine like thobutk a to way all right. So thanks forjoining me boys, it is currently Sunday afternoon on the queen's birthday longweekend. Anything planned for your Monday off or not really lads be rihi essays, so Youto Yeit's, the last think aboutuni semester, so Harlott work, aassistmance, Jew, so good couple days,ahear it really no, but it's been fun to switch off and have a Chit Chatabout the great game of NFL, a great naks. This is the Tuesday episode andnext Tuesday's episode in a week's time from when you're. Listening to this, wewill be releasing the AFC conference predictions at the moment, I'm tryingto line up a fou guest debutons to the show, but we'll see if that full I'll see if I can work that out.Otherwise, you boys might he's given her he's, giving up Lan back on againhe's giving us the flic Cordus, because your Foou, because you're forty nine,is bullshitit's very gouh when he sadthe lines a going wat. It happen right, WHATC, it happenanyway, so the West tages playing tonight so boys wwe Shasl like we'replaying my worst team, the COMP. So if we don't win, probably won't hear forme for a few days, but I enjoy it enjoy afternoon. Lards, thanksfor listening at home, check out chuck us out in the Social See sear.

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