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NFL Fantasy Week 5 Rankings Risers/Fallers - Fantasy Football

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Another fantasy episode where we discuss the risers and fallers in the respective positions in NFL Fantasy. Tune in to hear our thoughts!!!

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Welcome back to the UNDERWALL podcast,another episode of the greatest potty gun round and we're here for the final NFLepisode of the week, third of the three episode series. Obviously we've donethe review the preview so far. If you haven't watched those all, listento those. Go back and do that. They're very good, if I cansay that myself. I'm once again here by myself. Will likely havethe boys back or some guests next week, so stay tuned for that. Butwhat we're going to do today is our usual fantasy so I'm going togo through the main for fantasy positions, being quarterback, running back, widereceiver and tight end, and I'm going to discuss a few people who arefallen and risen in my personal rankings heading into this weekend. And Yeah,who I think you should maybe not necessarily by low, but someone who Ithink is maybe being underrated or overrated in the community right now and that canhelp your team moving forward. Before we get into it, just a littlerecap from last week. Actually trying to remember how I went. I gotthe win because I'm still underfeeded. I actually beat front of the show Pilch, but I remember that I didn't score. Actually, know, I scored prettywell, now I think about yeah, I did well. Think I gotlike a hundred and fifty or something. IDVO, Samuel go really big,also brought in jail and hurts, who performed as I was hoping,and I also had miles gascon in my flex give me about point three.So I think I did pretty well to score. Well, he was withouthis main gun, Christian McCaffrey. So just looking at that, I wasexpected to win, but after two really poor weeks of sub a hundred scores, I was a bit concerned, but happy to be for and I,however, am still a little bit concerned about my team trade away. TradedAway Robert Woods this morning before Thursday night football and saw what he did.So Yeah, look, my confidence right now is pretty low, but I'mlooking forward to some big trading action this weekend. I've just finished my rankingsfor the week and I've got some spicy takes in there. So hopefully Idon't give away too much to those in my league listening here, but letme know how you're going in your league. Let me know any trades, tradesuggestions for me if you if you think there's any players who were flyingunder the radar right now. Let me know if you want my opinion onany of your trade talks or your starts. It's anything like that. Always keento hear what you guys have to say. So starting with the quarterbacks. My League plays A to QB system, so there's some who are more relevantin ours, or people with the to qb system than a one QBLeague, but I've tried to stick to the main guys here. Rises I'vegot Derek car even though you didn't have his best week against the chargers.For me, just looking back at his first month, as I always go, I'm pretty conservative when it comes into buying, buying into early form,early season form, especially for someone like Derek Car who's sort of done itin the past and burnt us. But...

...he's played the Ravens, the steals, the dolphins and the charges and if you ranked the defenses one to thirtytwo in the preseason, these would probably be in the top eight. Soto the fact that he's the QB eleven right now is pretty impressive. Hisschedule doesn't get much easier. I will say that they have got a roughschedule this year. However, something I do like is that he's throwing percentagesin outrages right now. I think he's averages in the low s. Thatcan there's room from improvement. A lot of times you see someone at ballout as a quarterback and they're throwing eighty percent and you just do that's notsustainable. So that's something we'd have to worry about with Derek car. Ifanything, it might improve. And turnovers is also another thing there's that oftenhappens. They might go on a streak of no interceptions, no fumbles,and then all of a sudden that starts to happen a bit more regularly andwe see their scores be a lot lower. where he I think he's had threeinterceptions so far in the year. So we're definitely not seeing a perfectDerek car and I don't think he's really at the level of quarterback where he'sgoing to go. You know, eight weeks without a pick. So I'mnot really suggesting that those are going to stop, but I'm just saying it'ssort of a red flag that we don't have to worry about in this situation. Something else that really took my fancy was I always get a bit concernwhen Josh Jacobs is in the lineup, because I know John Gruten does lovegoing to him on the big plays. But he only had one red zonecarrying. This car had one red zone carry and he also had three redzone attempts. So I wasn't a great game in all and all for theraiders, but the fact that they had a three, two one. Well, three to two, but realistically take away Derek cars carry a three hundredand twenty one throwing to rushing ratio in the red zone always really, reallypositive. And Yeah, Derek cars just is playing really well as well,just in terms of the eyeball test, so that's something I like to see. Some of his young receivers, Hunter Renfro Didn have his greatest game andthere's definitely like I think Edwards and rugs are going to keep improving. SoI definitely like the look of Derek car right now. My other one isDaniel Jones, another guy who I've been pretty conservative with so far this season, but I'm finally going to admit that he's a decent, a pretty decentoption. I'm not I don't think he is that relevant in Qb. OneQB Leagues, I'm not sure if these two are really relevant one QB leagues, but I think they're definitely good backups with the buyers coming up next week. He's currently the QB six, but something I really liked about his performanceon the weekend was he had four hundred and two yards passing yards. That'sjust not something we've come to expect. I know there was overtime, butall in all, without his two of his best receivers and slate and shepherdagainst a pretty good saints defense, that's really, really good. It lookslike he's combination with gold days coming along pretty nicely. We already seen himin his first game for the club throw a deep shot to John Ross.Tony looks like he's coming along nicely. Berkeley looks like he's back to hisbest form and yeah, things are really looking up for this giants offense.And what's even better is their defenses and...

...actually playing that well. So lookslike they're going to be in a lot of high scoring, close games.And another great thing about Daniel Jones is his averaging about fifty yards on theground. So if you can just pocket those five points every week all ofa sudden, like realistically, if Daniel Jones averages twenty for the year.You're pretty happy with that. So if he gets fifty yards every week rushing, that he's only got to get fifteen from the passing game and he's goingto have the old the odd touchdown on the ground as well. So yeah, definitely like the look of that. And he's also not having many turnovers, which is something that he has seemed to improve in his game, whichis good to see. Fullers, I've got DAK Prescott. I think wemight have talked about him last week in the PODCAST, but I don't thinkhe was my number one fall of it. He is this week. He's hadless than thirty attempts in these last three games, which is really concerning. It's something I know Russell Wilson's a really, really good player and he'sgood in fantasy as well, but it's why I'm always reluctant to pick RussellWilson because I don't like having to. It's like it's the way the Seattledefense offense is built that he's going to get a lot of a large yardsper completion, but I just don't like relying on twooy two, twenty threeand twenty five complete attempts. I'm much rather someone who's going to sling theball forty times a game, and that's what I thought Dak Prescott was goingto be. But that is not the case. They're running game has beenabsolutely sensational, so they haven't had to throw it and unfortunately that is notgood news for fantasy owners of Dak Prescott. He has on the weekend he hadthree red zone throws compared to eight red zone carries. And I knowthe game script suited the run game a lot more, but the way thisDallas team is going, in the way the Dallas defense is going as well, it looks like they're going to be ahead of the game a lot.So unfortunately for Dak Prescott owners, I don't think he's going to be thatwell, I actually had him as I think I had him as the QBone going into the year. Honestly, after what we saw at the startof last season, I thought they were going to be in a lot ofshootouts, scoring forty points. He was going to be throwing four touchdowns agame. But yeah, the way their defense is playing right now, theway they're running games going, I don't think he's going to be required tobe having forty, fifty drop backs like he was last year. So yeah, worried about Dak Prescott. Also worried about Justin Herbert's teams throwing one.So you'd sugget that suggest the quarterbacks gone pretty well, but he's only hadone score above twenty two, which is not great. Any schedules pretty hardfrom here on out. And something that, similar to Dak Prescott, that Idon't like about Herbert is their defense is playing really, really high levelstuff and I think that means they're going to be in less shootouts than lastyear. I think the cart charges were involved in so many, like thirtyfive to thirty three, thirty eight to thirty six type games last year andI just don't see that happening that much. I think they're an improved team onboth sides of the ball and I think that is actually a negative thingfor fantasy to be honest. So yeah, I'm not a massive down or onHerbert. I still think he's a...

...decent even in a one cub league. I think he's still a decent option with upside. But yeah, youstart to the season's definitely concerned be rises in the sorry onto the running backposition. Like most leagues, we run it to running back flex league,so only really the top dogs are relevant. But with the injuries right now,sort of slimming pretty quickly. But for me the rises, my numberone riser is deandre swift of the Detroit lions. He's had a really toughrun, a fix just so far as the whole Detroit offense has. Andone thing I just love about deandre swift is he's basically a wide receiver withrunning like it's just the perfect fantasy set up on pepe PPR. Sorry,his floor is just so high. He averages about eleven twelve points a weekjust from you know, six, six catches, sixty yards on the groundand and add to that. I think so far he's averaging about forty fiveyards on the ground, but his yards were carries, like around three anda half. So let's get that up to the low fours. Get givehim a few extra carries because they're playing a week opposition and we can seehim getting sixty to seventy rushing yards a rushing td and twelve points in theair. Like all of a sudden he's a top three running back in thegame. So yeah, I think swift has brilliant upside and I think rightnow he's undervalued because his average and like points isn't that high. So ifsomeone has got him right now and maybe has had a bit of a roughstart to the season and they look at his point scoring so far, theymight go that's someone who I could look to move on and you could jumpin and pick up a bargain and deandre a sift swift, someone else whohopefully they weren't watching Thursday night footy last night, because this balloons his value. But James Robinson, I was very high on this guy going to theseason. I think a lot of the metrics were really low on him,to be honest, a lot of the consensus rankings. In the end,in the first couple weeks, Carlos hired did take a lot of his actionand that did frighten me a little bit. But he's taken soul back duties likehe's taken aback pretty much. We saw it last year. He wasan absolute freak of a fantasy running back. I was lucky enough to have himlast year, picked him off off the waivers and week one and hekilled it for the pretty much the whole season. He had ninety five percentof Sta ups last week on offense, so that's a really, really goodsign for fantasy owners. They've got a fairly easy fixture to come. Iknow that not really much as easy for the jags, but that's still good. And on the weekend James Robinson had four red zone touches, three carriesand one target. So yeah, really, really good signs for James Robinson,especially if someone you know picked him traded for him after two weeks orsomething. You've got yourself a bargain there, because he looks like he's starting runningback once again and we love to see it. I do love abit of James Robinson. He just looks...

...really good. He looked so goodagainst the bengals. My fallows in the running back spot is Mike Davis.Actually was pretty high on this guy in the first couple weeks and we sawwhat he didn't Carolina last year when McCaffrey went down. I thought this wassort of going to be his backfield to run and although they're not going tobe a great team, I thought he's fantasy potential was pretty high. However, sort of been pretty off on that call. So far haven't had thetoughest fixture yet and he's only averaging eleven points a game. He's got asolid floor just because he's he's quite a lot of carries and a and alittle bit of game action. But yeah, I just can't really seem putting upbig numbers like realistically, for him to get, you know, onethousand seven hundred and eighteen plus, is probably going to need one or twotouchdowns, which just isn't happening right now. The touchdowns are either coming in thepassing game or through Cardarel Patterson. So yeah, it doesn't look goodfor Mike Davis Right now. His yards but carry is really low. Ithink it was like one on the weekend and that's not going to be thecase for the whole year, but yeah, definitely not ideal for Mike Davis.Nick Chub is my other forller would discuss, probably someone who, ifyou look at his average, like if you look at his score every week, you're probably like, I don't really see the height, but then hesort of just through consistency, just ends up in the top ten. ButI do believe he is in danger of not making the top ten this year, like people were expecting. I still think he's a starting running back,so don't worry about that, but I just think he might be being alittle bit overvalued right now. He is just as we all know. Hejust basically has no he has no action in the air game, which isreally bad for his fantasy. Take in PEPPR. What I keep saying threeP's. It's just PPR. I'm trying to think. What is peppr?I don't know, but he's averaging fifteen right now and he hasn't really hadthe toughest fixture in terms of run defenses. So yeah, that's definitely a concernfor me. With Nick Chub I know as the weather sort of stutsto worsen, these high carries sort of less relevant. Air Game running backstart to come to the fore as the air the passing games around the endthey fell start to struggle with wet balls and cold conditions and stuff like that. But yeah, for me right now I just don't really like what NickChild offers. Yeah, I'm just not the biggest fan in terms of fantasyinto the wide receivers. As I mentioned before, we have a flex position, so the lower ones are a bit more relevant, but all four ofmy guys here are pretty high. Let me know what you think of thesetakes. So my riser of the week is DJ more. Everyone's pretty highon this guy now, so I'm sort of late to the party, buthe's had he has a really, really good fixture coming up. Is ClearlyDonald's number one target. He has thirty one percent target share in the redzone. He's been targeted ten plus times through in his last three matches anda lot of his points came in the...

...junk time against the cowboys. Butas fantasy owners we don't really mind where the points come, we just wantthem. So yeah, I definitely think he's a top ten option right nowand I don't know, people might still not be clued onto that who aren'tthat into fantasy, so maybe you can get him maybe undervalued, but yeah, Dj more's just absolutely killing the game right now. And yes, McCaffreycomes back this week, which might mean they run the ball a little bitmore than they pass, but ultimately, with his percentage of target chair,especially in that red zone, bothes really well for his fantasy scoring this year. Next tip I've got. This is a guy who I really liked lastweek and this week as well brandon cooks. I know Houston sort of a teamthat no one really wants to touch with a barge pole right now,but Davis Mills probably only has one to two more weeks under center. TyrodTaylor could come back, and even if he doesn't, what often happens toa lot of these you know, lesser ability. Not Saying he's crap,by like players who aren't playing at the highest level, they are the offensivecoordinated sort of shortened down the playbook and they just let them target one ortwo receivers, and I think that's where brandon cooks is going to come tothe for twenty seven cent target share in the Red Zone, which is brilliantfor a guy who, across the whole field, has a pretty high targetchest. So to combine that with the high target share in the red zonesreally promising. He's averaging eighteen points at the moment and that's with two anda half matches from Davis Mills, who you think is targeting on quite afew occasions where the throw is not really catchable. So yeah, we reallylike to see that for Brandon cooks. He's someone who's sort of slipped onall the time in fantasy. I had him in the back end of lastyear and he was really, really good for me and I just think iftyrod Taylor comes back, all of a sudden this offense starts to put uppoints again and he could be a real good option in your flex or yourwide receiver to position fullers, I've got CD lamb. I had this guyreally high at the start of the season, as most did, but yes,similar reasons to Dak Prescott, as I explained lane before. I wouldjust sort of say again what I said for Dak Prescott, because some peoplemight just be watching the wide receiver section. But they've had less than thirty passingattempts in the last three games respectively. Last week they ran eight times inthe red zone only through it three times. Their defense has improved onlast year, so there's going to be less shootouts. CD Lamb specifically,is only had eight targets in his last two games, which is really,really poor for someone who we thought could have been a wide receiver one andespecially Gallop might be back this week or next week, so that looks likea like. I don't know where the targets come from really, so it'sreally concerning. etcentric Wilson's also playing pretty well. So yeah, at themoment I think there's just too many mouths to feed, a bit like Tampaand in Dallas, and I'm not that high on any of them at themoment, except for Ezekiel Elliott. So...

...yeah, I'd be steering clear personally. And I think a lot of them have big name value and they playfor the cowboys and everyone's the cowboys get a lot of primetime games, soI think they're often overvalued. But yeah, for me I'm not a fan ofCD lamb right now. My other faller is deandre Hopkins. In hisfour games so far this season he hasn't had more than eight targets yet,which is just really concerning. This is a guy who we expect to haveten plus almost every week and the cardinals are absolutely humming on offense and you'dthink that would pair of a lot of ball to Hopkins, and it doesn'tlook that way. They're also running it a lot in the red zone,which is a real concern. And something else that I really don't like isRondale Moore's only going to get better as the year goes on. So he'sprobably going to see more targets and AJ Green's going to get more comfortable inthis system and he's probably going to see more targets as well. So youknow, there's only so many people who can get more targets as the yeargoes on and eventually you have to say who gets less. And I'm notsaying Hopkins is going to get less, but people who are saying, oh, he's just going to return back to his thirteen fourteen target form pretty soon, I don't quite see where that maths adds up. And in saying that, I'm sure you'll score sixty this weekend and you can all laugh at me. But yeah, right now I'm just really concerned about deandre Hopkins finally intothe tight end position. We have a ten man league one tight ends,so I don't know if that's deeper than normal. I actually have no idea, but my rises are number one cold pits. I was really high ten, really highly touted coming into the year. People had them as the tight endfor on the draft boards and he sort of slipped all the way downto tight end eight, nine and a lot of draft boards oh rankings overthe last couple weeks and he's scoring hasn't been insane, so I think therewould be a lot of owners who are quite low on him right now.Have However, if you look at his underlying numbers, there's actually not thatmuch to be concerned about. He's had. On the weekend he had three redzone targets and he's had eight on the season Ed at an average rate. They convert every for red zone targets into a touchdown. So right nowhe should have two touchdowns on the year, which would inflate his average pretty dramatically. Right now he's just well, whether it be him or Ryan,they're just not converting them into touchdowns. But if he's one of Ryan's favoritetouchdown targets, their run game isn't killing it right now. With Mike Davidstruggling in the airline struggling, I could definitely see pits becoming one of hisfavorite options down the stretch. And Yeah, I just think, as all drafthe's do, he's going to get better as the season goes on.So I think cold pits is a good option this week and he might bebeing undervalued the other ones. DORSO knocks everyone sort of high on this guyat the moment. And I was sort of skeptical, but I did lookat the numbers that I can definitely see why everyone's keen on him. He'shad seven red zone targets on the year. Is In a absolutely flying high billsoffense and there are quite a few mouths to feed there. But ultimately, if he's one of Josh Allen's favorite...

...red zone targets, that's all weneed. So, like, you don't want to get in a situation whereyou're getting these td or bust tight ends, but I think knocks is a littlebit more than that and he's also bit like Ronkowski's in a situation wherehe's got to score a td that often, where it's almost not it like itis better than just a TD or bus situation. So yeah, Ido like Dowson knocks, especially as summers, as some of the big dog tightends aren't functioning as well as we were expecting. My falls, Ididn't want to put him in here because I put him in here about threetimes, but I do own him, so I do see what he putsup every week, and that's George Kittell on the weekend. I do youthink he got dogged by tray lance coming in. I think when tray lancecame in he had like three targets, three catches, and then when trayit by the end of the game he had like four couches, ten targets. So Lance was looking at him, which was good, but he wasn'thitting him and I just think kid was going to be really solid, likeI think he's going to be. I think you'll definitely be a top fivetight end, maybe top for but for me what really limits his ceiling ishe hasn't had a red zone target yet. And I'm hoping no one in myleague is listening to this, but yeah, that's definitely a concern forme. I think there's been like six or seven blokes whove had a redzone target and he hasn't had one yet and, as we know, inthe tight end position scoring is so important. And yes, it's good that hecan score points elsewhere, but ultimately if he's not going to get inthe paid then he's ceiling is sort of brought down a bit. So Ithink just consistency over the eight the year he will be top five. Butright now I think his name value and he is reputation in fantasy precedes himand I think you could definitely get him get something quite good for him whenhe's not really putting out much. And then finally, Dallas God, itis my final fuller. As I've just mentioned, you don't want to teto your bus tight end and ultimately Dallas got it has sort of become thathe's averaging around three catches per game. So let's say has three catches forthirty yards. That's six points. So without Tad's he's averaging around six points. So yeah, that's just really, really not good to see. Alot of the Philadelphia receivers are only going to get better, with jail andRegart, Davonte Smith and Quez whattkins all very early on in their careers.And Yeah, it's just not good. As not good to see Dallas got. It was actually someone who I was pretty hard on the last couple weeksand I tried to get him from the owner of got it in my league, but ultimately I'm quite happy I avoided that. However, I do haveLogan Thomas, who went down injured. There's obviously a lot of injured playerswho their stock fell this week, like Montgomery and Thomas and others, butI'm not going to include them because, you know, it's a bit ofa copy out saying an injured player is a full look, because that's sortof taken as red. So that's going to be it for the final NFLepisode of the week. So if you haven't checked out the preview or thereview, go back and check those out,...

...because they actually were pretty good episodes. And Yeah, thank you for joining me. Good luck for yourfantasy teams on the weekend. Let me know if you have any starts,it dilemmas, trade suggestions for me or you want trade advice and yet seenext time. Cheers,.

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