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NFL Fantasy Week 5 Rankings Risers/Fallers - Fantasy Football

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Another fantasy episode where we discuss the risers and fallers in the respective positions in NFL Fantasy. Tune in to hear our thoughts!!!

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Welcome back to the UNDERWALL podcast, another episode of the greatest potty gun round and we're here for the final NFL episode of the week, third of the three episode series. Obviously we've done the review the preview so far. If you haven't watched those all, listen to those. Go back and do that. They're very good, if I can say that myself. I'm once again here by myself. Will likely have the boys back or some guests next week, so stay tuned for that. But what we're going to do today is our usual fantasy so I'm going to go through the main for fantasy positions, being quarterback, running back, wide receiver and tight end, and I'm going to discuss a few people who are fallen and risen in my personal rankings heading into this weekend. And Yeah, who I think you should maybe not necessarily by low, but someone who I think is maybe being underrated or overrated in the community right now and that can help your team moving forward. Before we get into it, just a little recap from last week. Actually trying to remember how I went. I got the win because I'm still underfeeded. I actually beat front of the show Pilch, but I remember that I didn't score. Actually, know, I scored pretty well, now I think about yeah, I did well. Think I got like a hundred and fifty or something. IDVO, Samuel go really big, also brought in jail and hurts, who performed as I was hoping, and I also had miles gascon in my flex give me about point three. So I think I did pretty well to score. Well, he was without his main gun, Christian McCaffrey. So just looking at that, I was expected to win, but after two really poor weeks of sub a hundred scores, I was a bit concerned, but happy to be for and I, however, am still a little bit concerned about my team trade away. Traded Away Robert Woods this morning before Thursday night football and saw what he did. So Yeah, look, my confidence right now is pretty low, but I'm looking forward to some big trading action this weekend. I've just finished my rankings for the week and I've got some spicy takes in there. So hopefully I don't give away too much to those in my league listening here, but let me know how you're going in your league. Let me know any trades, trade suggestions for me if you if you think there's any players who were flying under the radar right now. Let me know if you want my opinion on any of your trade talks or your starts. It's anything like that. Always keen to hear what you guys have to say. So starting with the quarterbacks. My League plays A to QB system, so there's some who are more relevant in ours, or people with the to qb system than a one QB League, but I've tried to stick to the main guys here. Rises I've got Derek car even though you didn't have his best week against the chargers. For me, just looking back at his first month, as I always go, I'm pretty conservative when it comes into buying, buying into early form, early season form, especially for someone like Derek Car who's sort of done it in the past and burnt us. But...

...he's played the Ravens, the steals, the dolphins and the charges and if you ranked the defenses one to thirty two in the preseason, these would probably be in the top eight. So to the fact that he's the QB eleven right now is pretty impressive. His schedule doesn't get much easier. I will say that they have got a rough schedule this year. However, something I do like is that he's throwing percentages in outrages right now. I think he's averages in the low s. That can there's room from improvement. A lot of times you see someone at ball out as a quarterback and they're throwing eighty percent and you just do that's not sustainable. So that's something we'd have to worry about with Derek car. If anything, it might improve. And turnovers is also another thing there's that often happens. They might go on a streak of no interceptions, no fumbles, and then all of a sudden that starts to happen a bit more regularly and we see their scores be a lot lower. where he I think he's had three interceptions so far in the year. So we're definitely not seeing a perfect Derek car and I don't think he's really at the level of quarterback where he's going to go. You know, eight weeks without a pick. So I'm not really suggesting that those are going to stop, but I'm just saying it's sort of a red flag that we don't have to worry about in this situation. Something else that really took my fancy was I always get a bit concern when Josh Jacobs is in the lineup, because I know John Gruten does love going to him on the big plays. But he only had one red zone carrying. This car had one red zone carry and he also had three red zone attempts. So I wasn't a great game in all and all for the raiders, but the fact that they had a three, two one. Well, three to two, but realistically take away Derek cars carry a three hundred and twenty one throwing to rushing ratio in the red zone always really, really positive. And Yeah, Derek cars just is playing really well as well, just in terms of the eyeball test, so that's something I like to see. Some of his young receivers, Hunter Renfro Didn have his greatest game and there's definitely like I think Edwards and rugs are going to keep improving. So I definitely like the look of Derek car right now. My other one is Daniel Jones, another guy who I've been pretty conservative with so far this season, but I'm finally going to admit that he's a decent, a pretty decent option. I'm not I don't think he is that relevant in Qb. One QB Leagues, I'm not sure if these two are really relevant one QB leagues, but I think they're definitely good backups with the buyers coming up next week. He's currently the QB six, but something I really liked about his performance on the weekend was he had four hundred and two yards passing yards. That's just not something we've come to expect. I know there was overtime, but all in all, without his two of his best receivers and slate and shepherd against a pretty good saints defense, that's really, really good. It looks like he's combination with gold days coming along pretty nicely. We already seen him in his first game for the club throw a deep shot to John Ross. Tony looks like he's coming along nicely. Berkeley looks like he's back to his best form and yeah, things are really looking up for this giants offense. And what's even better is their defenses and...

...actually playing that well. So looks like they're going to be in a lot of high scoring, close games. And another great thing about Daniel Jones is his averaging about fifty yards on the ground. So if you can just pocket those five points every week all of a sudden, like realistically, if Daniel Jones averages twenty for the year. You're pretty happy with that. So if he gets fifty yards every week rushing, that he's only got to get fifteen from the passing game and he's going to have the old the odd touchdown on the ground as well. So yeah, definitely like the look of that. And he's also not having many turnovers, which is something that he has seemed to improve in his game, which is good to see. Fullers, I've got DAK Prescott. I think we might have talked about him last week in the PODCAST, but I don't think he was my number one fall of it. He is this week. He's had less than thirty attempts in these last three games, which is really concerning. It's something I know Russell Wilson's a really, really good player and he's good in fantasy as well, but it's why I'm always reluctant to pick Russell Wilson because I don't like having to. It's like it's the way the Seattle defense offense is built that he's going to get a lot of a large yards per completion, but I just don't like relying on twooy two, twenty three and twenty five complete attempts. I'm much rather someone who's going to sling the ball forty times a game, and that's what I thought Dak Prescott was going to be. But that is not the case. They're running game has been absolutely sensational, so they haven't had to throw it and unfortunately that is not good news for fantasy owners of Dak Prescott. He has on the weekend he had three red zone throws compared to eight red zone carries. And I know the game script suited the run game a lot more, but the way this Dallas team is going, in the way the Dallas defense is going as well, it looks like they're going to be ahead of the game a lot. So unfortunately for Dak Prescott owners, I don't think he's going to be that well, I actually had him as I think I had him as the QB one going into the year. Honestly, after what we saw at the start of last season, I thought they were going to be in a lot of shootouts, scoring forty points. He was going to be throwing four touchdowns a game. But yeah, the way their defense is playing right now, the way they're running games going, I don't think he's going to be required to be having forty, fifty drop backs like he was last year. So yeah, worried about Dak Prescott. Also worried about Justin Herbert's teams throwing one. So you'd sugget that suggest the quarterbacks gone pretty well, but he's only had one score above twenty two, which is not great. Any schedules pretty hard from here on out. And something that, similar to Dak Prescott, that I don't like about Herbert is their defense is playing really, really high level stuff and I think that means they're going to be in less shootouts than last year. I think the cart charges were involved in so many, like thirty five to thirty three, thirty eight to thirty six type games last year and I just don't see that happening that much. I think they're an improved team on both sides of the ball and I think that is actually a negative thing for fantasy to be honest. So yeah, I'm not a massive down or on Herbert. I still think he's a...

...decent even in a one cub league. I think he's still a decent option with upside. But yeah, you start to the season's definitely concerned be rises in the sorry onto the running back position. Like most leagues, we run it to running back flex league, so only really the top dogs are relevant. But with the injuries right now, sort of slimming pretty quickly. But for me the rises, my number one riser is deandre swift of the Detroit lions. He's had a really tough run, a fix just so far as the whole Detroit offense has. And one thing I just love about deandre swift is he's basically a wide receiver with running like it's just the perfect fantasy set up on pepe PPR. Sorry, his floor is just so high. He averages about eleven twelve points a week just from you know, six, six catches, sixty yards on the ground and and add to that. I think so far he's averaging about forty five yards on the ground, but his yards were carries, like around three and a half. So let's get that up to the low fours. Get give him a few extra carries because they're playing a week opposition and we can see him getting sixty to seventy rushing yards a rushing td and twelve points in the air. Like all of a sudden he's a top three running back in the game. So yeah, I think swift has brilliant upside and I think right now he's undervalued because his average and like points isn't that high. So if someone has got him right now and maybe has had a bit of a rough start to the season and they look at his point scoring so far, they might go that's someone who I could look to move on and you could jump in and pick up a bargain and deandre a sift swift, someone else who hopefully they weren't watching Thursday night footy last night, because this balloons his value. But James Robinson, I was very high on this guy going to the season. I think a lot of the metrics were really low on him, to be honest, a lot of the consensus rankings. In the end, in the first couple weeks, Carlos hired did take a lot of his action and that did frighten me a little bit. But he's taken soul back duties like he's taken aback pretty much. We saw it last year. He was an absolute freak of a fantasy running back. I was lucky enough to have him last year, picked him off off the waivers and week one and he killed it for the pretty much the whole season. He had ninety five percent of Sta ups last week on offense, so that's a really, really good sign for fantasy owners. They've got a fairly easy fixture to come. I know that not really much as easy for the jags, but that's still good. And on the weekend James Robinson had four red zone touches, three carries and one target. So yeah, really, really good signs for James Robinson, especially if someone you know picked him traded for him after two weeks or something. You've got yourself a bargain there, because he looks like he's starting running back once again and we love to see it. I do love a bit of James Robinson. He just looks...

...really good. He looked so good against the bengals. My fallows in the running back spot is Mike Davis. Actually was pretty high on this guy in the first couple weeks and we saw what he didn't Carolina last year when McCaffrey went down. I thought this was sort of going to be his backfield to run and although they're not going to be a great team, I thought he's fantasy potential was pretty high. However, sort of been pretty off on that call. So far haven't had the toughest fixture yet and he's only averaging eleven points a game. He's got a solid floor just because he's he's quite a lot of carries and a and a little bit of game action. But yeah, I just can't really seem putting up big numbers like realistically, for him to get, you know, one thousand seven hundred and eighteen plus, is probably going to need one or two touchdowns, which just isn't happening right now. The touchdowns are either coming in the passing game or through Cardarel Patterson. So yeah, it doesn't look good for Mike Davis Right now. His yards but carry is really low. I think it was like one on the weekend and that's not going to be the case for the whole year, but yeah, definitely not ideal for Mike Davis. Nick Chub is my other forller would discuss, probably someone who, if you look at his average, like if you look at his score every week, you're probably like, I don't really see the height, but then he sort of just through consistency, just ends up in the top ten. But I do believe he is in danger of not making the top ten this year, like people were expecting. I still think he's a starting running back, so don't worry about that, but I just think he might be being a little bit overvalued right now. He is just as we all know. He just basically has no he has no action in the air game, which is really bad for his fantasy. Take in PEPPR. What I keep saying three P's. It's just PPR. I'm trying to think. What is peppr? I don't know, but he's averaging fifteen right now and he hasn't really had the toughest fixture in terms of run defenses. So yeah, that's definitely a concern for me. With Nick Chub I know as the weather sort of stuts to worsen, these high carries sort of less relevant. Air Game running back start to come to the fore as the air the passing games around the end they fell start to struggle with wet balls and cold conditions and stuff like that. But yeah, for me right now I just don't really like what Nick Child offers. Yeah, I'm just not the biggest fan in terms of fantasy into the wide receivers. As I mentioned before, we have a flex position, so the lower ones are a bit more relevant, but all four of my guys here are pretty high. Let me know what you think of these takes. So my riser of the week is DJ more. Everyone's pretty high on this guy now, so I'm sort of late to the party, but he's had he has a really, really good fixture coming up. Is Clearly Donald's number one target. He has thirty one percent target share in the red zone. He's been targeted ten plus times through in his last three matches and a lot of his points came in the...

...junk time against the cowboys. But as fantasy owners we don't really mind where the points come, we just want them. So yeah, I definitely think he's a top ten option right now and I don't know, people might still not be clued onto that who aren't that into fantasy, so maybe you can get him maybe undervalued, but yeah, Dj more's just absolutely killing the game right now. And yes, McCaffrey comes back this week, which might mean they run the ball a little bit more than they pass, but ultimately, with his percentage of target chair, especially in that red zone, bothes really well for his fantasy scoring this year. Next tip I've got. This is a guy who I really liked last week and this week as well brandon cooks. I know Houston sort of a team that no one really wants to touch with a barge pole right now, but Davis Mills probably only has one to two more weeks under center. Tyrod Taylor could come back, and even if he doesn't, what often happens to a lot of these you know, lesser ability. Not Saying he's crap, by like players who aren't playing at the highest level, they are the offensive coordinated sort of shortened down the playbook and they just let them target one or two receivers, and I think that's where brandon cooks is going to come to the for twenty seven cent target share in the Red Zone, which is brilliant for a guy who, across the whole field, has a pretty high target chest. So to combine that with the high target share in the red zones really promising. He's averaging eighteen points at the moment and that's with two and a half matches from Davis Mills, who you think is targeting on quite a few occasions where the throw is not really catchable. So yeah, we really like to see that for Brandon cooks. He's someone who's sort of slipped on all the time in fantasy. I had him in the back end of last year and he was really, really good for me and I just think if tyrod Taylor comes back, all of a sudden this offense starts to put up points again and he could be a real good option in your flex or your wide receiver to position fullers, I've got CD lamb. I had this guy really high at the start of the season, as most did, but yes, similar reasons to Dak Prescott, as I explained lane before. I would just sort of say again what I said for Dak Prescott, because some people might just be watching the wide receiver section. But they've had less than thirty passing attempts in the last three games respectively. Last week they ran eight times in the red zone only through it three times. Their defense has improved on last year, so there's going to be less shootouts. CD Lamb specifically, is only had eight targets in his last two games, which is really, really poor for someone who we thought could have been a wide receiver one and especially Gallop might be back this week or next week, so that looks like a like. I don't know where the targets come from really, so it's really concerning. etcentric Wilson's also playing pretty well. So yeah, at the moment I think there's just too many mouths to feed, a bit like Tampa and in Dallas, and I'm not that high on any of them at the moment, except for Ezekiel Elliott. So...

...yeah, I'd be steering clear personally. And I think a lot of them have big name value and they play for the cowboys and everyone's the cowboys get a lot of primetime games, so I think they're often overvalued. But yeah, for me I'm not a fan of CD lamb right now. My other faller is deandre Hopkins. In his four games so far this season he hasn't had more than eight targets yet, which is just really concerning. This is a guy who we expect to have ten plus almost every week and the cardinals are absolutely humming on offense and you'd think that would pair of a lot of ball to Hopkins, and it doesn't look that way. They're also running it a lot in the red zone, which is a real concern. And something else that I really don't like is Rondale Moore's only going to get better as the year goes on. So he's probably going to see more targets and AJ Green's going to get more comfortable in this system and he's probably going to see more targets as well. So you know, there's only so many people who can get more targets as the year goes on and eventually you have to say who gets less. And I'm not saying Hopkins is going to get less, but people who are saying, oh, he's just going to return back to his thirteen fourteen target form pretty soon, I don't quite see where that maths adds up. And in saying that, I'm sure you'll score sixty this weekend and you can all laugh at me. But yeah, right now I'm just really concerned about deandre Hopkins finally into the tight end position. We have a ten man league one tight ends, so I don't know if that's deeper than normal. I actually have no idea, but my rises are number one cold pits. I was really high ten, really highly touted coming into the year. People had them as the tight end for on the draft boards and he sort of slipped all the way down to tight end eight, nine and a lot of draft boards oh rankings over the last couple weeks and he's scoring hasn't been insane, so I think there would be a lot of owners who are quite low on him right now. Have However, if you look at his underlying numbers, there's actually not that much to be concerned about. He's had. On the weekend he had three red zone targets and he's had eight on the season Ed at an average rate. They convert every for red zone targets into a touchdown. So right now he should have two touchdowns on the year, which would inflate his average pretty dramatically. Right now he's just well, whether it be him or Ryan, they're just not converting them into touchdowns. But if he's one of Ryan's favorite touchdown targets, their run game isn't killing it right now. With Mike David struggling in the airline struggling, I could definitely see pits becoming one of his favorite options down the stretch. And Yeah, I just think, as all draft he's do, he's going to get better as the season goes on. So I think cold pits is a good option this week and he might be being undervalued the other ones. DORSO knocks everyone sort of high on this guy at the moment. And I was sort of skeptical, but I did look at the numbers that I can definitely see why everyone's keen on him. He's had seven red zone targets on the year. Is In a absolutely flying high bills offense and there are quite a few mouths to feed there. But ultimately, if he's one of Josh Allen's favorite...

...red zone targets, that's all we need. So, like, you don't want to get in a situation where you're getting these td or bust tight ends, but I think knocks is a little bit more than that and he's also bit like Ronkowski's in a situation where he's got to score a td that often, where it's almost not it like it is better than just a TD or bus situation. So yeah, I do like Dowson knocks, especially as summers, as some of the big dog tight ends aren't functioning as well as we were expecting. My falls, I didn't want to put him in here because I put him in here about three times, but I do own him, so I do see what he puts up every week, and that's George Kittell on the weekend. I do you think he got dogged by tray lance coming in. I think when tray lance came in he had like three targets, three catches, and then when tray it by the end of the game he had like four couches, ten targets. So Lance was looking at him, which was good, but he wasn't hitting him and I just think kid was going to be really solid, like I think he's going to be. I think you'll definitely be a top five tight end, maybe top for but for me what really limits his ceiling is he hasn't had a red zone target yet. And I'm hoping no one in my league is listening to this, but yeah, that's definitely a concern for me. I think there's been like six or seven blokes whove had a red zone target and he hasn't had one yet and, as we know, in the tight end position scoring is so important. And yes, it's good that he can score points elsewhere, but ultimately if he's not going to get in the paid then he's ceiling is sort of brought down a bit. So I think just consistency over the eight the year he will be top five. But right now I think his name value and he is reputation in fantasy precedes him and I think you could definitely get him get something quite good for him when he's not really putting out much. And then finally, Dallas God, it is my final fuller. As I've just mentioned, you don't want to te to your bus tight end and ultimately Dallas got it has sort of become that he's averaging around three catches per game. So let's say has three catches for thirty yards. That's six points. So without Tad's he's averaging around six points. So yeah, that's just really, really not good to see. A lot of the Philadelphia receivers are only going to get better, with jail and Regart, Davonte Smith and Quez whattkins all very early on in their careers. And Yeah, it's just not good. As not good to see Dallas got. It was actually someone who I was pretty hard on the last couple weeks and I tried to get him from the owner of got it in my league, but ultimately I'm quite happy I avoided that. However, I do have Logan Thomas, who went down injured. There's obviously a lot of injured players who their stock fell this week, like Montgomery and Thomas and others, but I'm not going to include them because, you know, it's a bit of a copy out saying an injured player is a full look, because that's sort of taken as red. So that's going to be it for the final NFL episode of the week. So if you haven't checked out the preview or the review, go back and check those out,...

...because they actually were pretty good episodes. And Yeah, thank you for joining me. Good luck for your fantasy teams on the weekend. Let me know if you have any starts, it dilemmas, trade suggestions for me or you want trade advice and yet see next time. Cheers,.

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