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Episode 8 · 1 year ago

Men's Tennis - Episode 7

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Tennis experts, Josh Brown and Christian Pilcher, join host, Hamish, to discuss the last decade of men's tennis and identify who were the top 10 players of the decade.

OCHES, I welcome back to episode seven of the onthe ball podcast today I am joined by once again the tennis expert of theChannel Josh Brown welcome. Thank you happy to be here again and regular to the channel WHO's. Alsohimself, a tennis expert specializes in the men's gender of tennis, maybe notso much. The women's Christian pilcher welcome backmate, hey boys. How are YeGoegume? Let's just there's, no real point pissy. What is that Sayme piss footing?PISS farting, I don't know I's fighting around yeah, no point Pisse fo, thereego no O is fagting around. We may as well get into it. So we're going todiscuss our top ten men's tennis players of the decade. That is justfinished, so the thenty tens yeah, we'll just make our way from tento one and wjust discuss tennis on our way through the list. So, let's just waste no time really JONA START USOFTPILC with your number ten mat sure thing mate. So I've actually gonewith a bit of a more recent player who onlycame on to the scene, two thousand and sixteen. But I've gone with Dominicteam at number, ten yeah. What why have you gone with him?Man Well his, although he hasn't played as muchas some other players who played the wholedecade. What his achieved so far is alreadypretty much better than most players, so, like two Grand Slam finals in the French, open anyone, IndianWells as well and he's intrenched himself in that top five over the pastfour years, really yeah he's made his way into my top. Ten Yeah is team in your this branning yeah. Hejust squeezed into number ten fot as well just made it in there and yeah samesimilar situation. I was a bit torn because he didn't quite have the wrecklike result, spanny over the entire decade, just heas a bit younger, buthe's the fact that he has made the two Grand Slam finals and been definitely up there as a like topfive top ten contender consistently over the last four years, with some and probably a much more competitiveagainst the top four top three guys and lots of the other guys have been overthe decade. Then yeah. That's what forme squeezed him in there yeah, I think, he's probably reallystood out as well since Maris had his intury issues and stuff. The fourthbest I think, he's kind of stood out as the best of the rest attimes like Sverev Medfhodevens, it a Passiv all kind of challenge for thatposition, but I would say it is still team, and that was highlighted by hisperformance at the Oz open earlier this year. It's fair to say, he's like a clay,courht dominant player despite having and Masters Wen on hard. So I thinkit's obviously without the big three or even the big four. A lot of theseplayers lowered down would have a grand slim or maybe even more than one. So Ithink itwould be safe to say if RUFFA wasn't around Tam would already haveone or two rolling garrises in the bank,...

...defnitely Rorkin IT AV three yeah. Thatwould completely change thea way. We look at definitely definitely thesecond best player what it comes to a clay in theworld, that's for sure yeah. So I think he's been unlucky. I'm sure eventually,he'll have his time to dominate on clay when rafhe retires, but I think he'sbeen unlucky to kind of be about the same time, AD's, the greatest clay,tennis player of all time. So why did you both have team at ten? Yes,Youday yeah, okay team. He was twelve for me, so he didn't make my ten, buthe was very close number ten I've. Actually I don't. I feel like this ispretty rogue. When I made this list, I was actually kind of thought he waslucky to even make the list, but upon doing the stats, it just showed howconsistent he is. I wrote down their ranking coming intothe decade and at the end of the decade, and he was, I think, one of threeplayers. Apart from the top five who ware clearly better than the rest, I think he wasone of only three others to have a top fifty ranking both at the start of thedecade and at the end, so he's been like he's, had great longevity and he'sreally been good throughout the whole decade. Unlike someone who is a bityounger like team, Os, ther or something so, I've gone with JoeWilfrid Songer, quite quite a shock. I'd say prettyoutrageous pick. When I worked out the median end of yhe averages. His medianaverage was twelve, which is, I think, like the third or fourth best,apart from the big four, it's actually better than stands, which is prettyimpressive. He hasn't made a grand slam final, so he's definitely lacking in that department, but he'smade five semifinals. He made a to of finals as well, but lost to Roger. Heis one of masters which, although Youo'LD think, is not that impressiveover ten years. That's actually it's not as common as you would think.Amongst the that did not so dominant players ofthis decade and he is been pretty consiste in the masters. Like he's madefour semes and lost two finals. He has great records in five hundreds and twoswith heaps of tournament, titles, and something that I really like as a manwho loves the Davis and Fed Cup, he has a Davis Cup torn title to His name andalso two finals losses. So it's been pretty dominant in that torment. So do you guys think that's a prettyoutrageous pick. I actually I wrate the pick he would have been close for mejust because he's he's been a great player throughout the whole decade andI'm a big fan of Song Arak and he's one of the most talented players on Torjust from raw talent, Yeahyeah, a big fan of them as well. Hedidn't quite he fucked in number thirteen for me sor. He made the shortlist of thought about him, but for me, even though the consistency was there,there was no like, like Hes, never really been in the top.Five for any considerable length of time doesn't really have many grandlike big grandslam performances over the last decade, thats a nothing thatreally stands out enough to get him up there. For me, yeah he's hot a couple:injuries as well, so it's been yeah he's been pretty unlucky, yeah e, it's kind of fallen away a bitin the last two years of the decade. He was, I think, injured in the twothosand and eighteen season, as he ended up with the year and ranking oftwo hundred and forty. But apart from that aid of the years he was in the toptwenty at the year end and then in the other year he was twenty nine, sopretty consistent, but yeah, as you said, Brownie he never finished a yearinside the top five, which is...

...like allthough, pretty impressiveachievement. That's like not really what you'd expect for someone makingthe top ten of the decade, so Yeah II'm willing to admit he's, probably athis peak, not as good as some of the players who've missed out of my list.Bu Yeah, I just rewarded the longgevity inconsistency, so yeah, let's justactually when I was thinking of my list, I kind of over looked at how good hehad been, though, like I genuinely thought this is probably recency bysplaying apart, but I thought momfees had been better than songer in thisdecade. Well earlier in the decade, Song was definitely one of the main early in the decade when it was like adefinitive top. Fourth, at the at the beginning, he was definitely one of thetop guys challenging alongside like Ferar and Berdick, and a couple otherscontending and getting those quarterfinal spots and stuff, but itwas never really able to consistently be one of those top ten players or liketop six or seven guys as much as the other guys- and my list have been so was impressive. Half has beenimpresseive the last ten years, but yeah not quite there. For me, yeah, I'm not really surprised at hisDavis Cup performance because it's been a pretty elite, French juse. That istrue, yes, gay, even pe he's not like he's not even in his prime yet but he'sadded something to the o. The country's reputation is a tennispowerhouse, and then you just had heaps of like just mid performers like even like Jillian benettone stuff, likeTya they've, got a good doubles, paring yeah in ther at Goout, which helps yeah,that's true, yeah, so theyre, I feel like them in Spain, and I guessAmerica they probably have like the best volume of tennis players. In termsof, I would say that almost have like ten in the top hundred most times, yeahso and I'd say, Song has really spearheaded that generation of Frenchtennis players, maybe with Gasgay as well. So who do you guys have at ninethen number nine number nine I've actuallygone with sashes verof yeah and he's only been around the lastthree or so years, and he's probably one of the most frustrating players ontour, because just as just as he just as we think he's finally breaking outand he goes and loses in the third round of a slam and then everyonethinks he's bad and then he goes and wins the tour finals. So it'sdefinitely had consistency issues, but I mean he's already one three mastersto one clay and and tool finals as well, so just base someone he's alreadyachieved. It was pretty easy, placing into number nine for me. Did you have him Bronnie or no? He wasfor me. He was asked from my list pretty early on. Hewas in. I originally put him up there to give get some starts, but for meit's just too recent of a player to be in the top ten, like combination ofhow recent he is and his lack of performances in grand slambs, thecombination, those two things Ma means that for me I was yeah. He wasn't really acontender in the top ten yeah he's yeah his slam. Performances definitelyaren't appealing, but I value the tour finals win pretty highly and alsoplayers like Wirinka del Patro, haven't even they've only one one masters andhe's already one three. So that's what Your Hee's, the most here's, the mostother than the big four for this decade, unless someone's just somehow I knoweveryone who's. One of Masters, is in...

...my list. So that's not wrong. That'sthat's! Pretty! That's pretty whack, though, that the fifth most masterswins by player is three three yeahit's rijiculous in the dull just a bitgreedy, but Um. You know, I see why you've gone with him. I've kind offavored Longgevity, as you ere saying, Brownie in my thing, as suggested by my pick of Songer, sopeople like sover Ovan team, who are probably better than some of my playersat their peak, so in that in the decade, were kind of yeah I'e, just preferred long gevity toit. Even though Y were probably worse players at the top of their powers, butyeah, I see how you pickd t there. If I just couldn't really look past the factthat he'd never made a Grand Slam, semifinal like to me that was yeah. ' Abit of a struggle aut but, as you said, the ATP Finals Win and the threemasters are very impressive. So I do see how you picked him, but for me hewas down at like fifteen iffe Mo yeah for sure for sure next decade, 'll bemaking a list yeah easy, yeah yeah. So who have you got at nine brandn? For me,I've got one Matindal Potro at number. Nine he's made made one got the one lastersWinin, the one, Grand Slam final over the last decade and he has had some consistency in the top ten,but he has had an injury played his pretty injury prone guy, so et'sbeen a bit in and out with some injuries at the beginning, in themiddle and ten of the end of the decade. So three major injuries there for him,but for me, he's just made e list just off the basis, if he's just been aroundin and around, and I think if it wasn't for his injuries, he definitely wouldbe much higher up on this list. Also, some very incredible individualperformances, like his Indian werlls victory, who on Indian Wells, I want tosay in two thousand and eighteen yeah, twenty Wi ina, with an impressivevictory over Roger Fetder Ind, the final or maybe Roger Fetder in theSemii want to say a big win and it's just being able to produce some of themost impressive individual match.Performances outside of the Maye, the top five guys of the decade.In my opinion, some of the like some of the top matches the deck all the topmatch the decade you're going to be those top five guys and del Patro. I inmy opinion, so that's what got him in there. For me just add. His peak isvery, very good. He has been finished three years in the top ten and one twoyears in the top five. So when he gets a role, he's definitely definitely very high up there if youcan get string a year or two together, but just an injury plagued kind of guywho's just been a bit unlucky. In that sense, so Camin came in at number ninefor me. Did you have him pilch? I did have him in my list. Did you yeahyeah? Well, if you haven't met I've, this is fairly controversial, but I'vegot him all the way up at number six. I actually do as well, and that'sthat's the most outrageous pick. I think for me a Itse for me it's justbecause, although he doesn't have the massimount of achievements because ofhis injuries, I think that, based on his ability, he is easily in the topsix plays of the decade. Yes, and he has he's, got a better wind percentagethan we'rein CA, top five wind percentage and also win percentageagainst the big three and top ten. So that's what that's why I put him atsix yeah and we haven't mentioned it, but his Olympics performance. He has asilk medal and a bronze medal, so it's kind of surprising that he was healthyfor both those Toun yeah and at Riowe beat jokevitch and the Dal, I believe,and almost bet murray for gold yeahnd.

You also wanted Davis Cup. I think itwas with one Monaco and he also lost a final, the Davis Cup. So He's been likepretty good in every kind of tournament category you have really. So I amwilling to admit it's a pretty outrageous pick. But given the fact that, like chillit, justone of Grand Slam stands one three but yeah, I've got him at six. For mepretty, like I don't even know, if it's a goodcall but yeah, I just maybe a bit of subconscious bias, because I reallylike Delpotro, I honestly think if he wasn't injured throughout this decade,he would have been the fifth best player, like I think, O would ever beenhigher to be honest, yeah I reon N Medanstan ecause. He honestsad to obviously that thisdoesn't count towards this list, but the two thousand and nine US Open withhis Grand Slam win and he would have been only about twenty years old and hebeat Roger Fedderer and the final and Roger Federal was undefeated for fiveyears at the US Open. So that was like the major breakout and then almostimmediately after that he was injured an I just. I've got here finished twothousand and ten at rang. Two hundred and fifty eight, so very unlike anifyew manageter string all of those years Ofer the last ten years together,because he has had a few solid couple of views on the two wars. Mans, getback to the top five with all the ten years definitely would have challenged the top for if hewas healthy that entire time, I think he would have won another slam yeah forsure I agree yeah and it like. Obviously these arestuff we can't take into account for this list. Yeah didn't happen, but alsovery stiff that he won the last Grand Slam in the last decade. Yes, yeah,like yeah, I didn't take that into account, but maybe subconsciously. Icouldn't help but think about it. Yeah here, as you were saying Branny, he hadfour year and rankings of above a hundred so just shows how like crippledby injury. He had peen over this decade. Yeah Yeah he's my number six, I'mwilling to admit that I don't know if it's the smartest decision or the mostaccurate but yeah. That's who I thought yeah I reckon he's, definitely should be higher based on his ability,but just back based on his titles and his consistency. I had him at numbernine, but he had to. He was always going to be in the top tent. For me,there's no way I could explude him yeah. I made my original list of ten before Icompared the starts and he actually wasn't in it. But then he mens song akicked. Some people out who I thought were definites like Cana, Chakorianstuff. So that's a little snak peak on WHO's missed out, but my number ninehasn't been said. Yet I'm going with Thomas Berditch of the Chech Republic,a country you probably associate with women's tennis and their Fed Cupdominance, but he's the flag bear of the men's game. Along with theBeautiful Radic Stepenick Thomas Burditch had a median year endrank of seven, which is like very impressive. That was so Heben doved for a both had seven andthen the next Tius was Andy Mary with four, so that just so shows howconsistent he was so yeah. He was better and ChillatchinStan in Thu that aspect he made a Grand Slam semi final seven times, one of those times he wenton to the final and lost so unfortunately didn't get a grandslam to his name Masters. So this kind of seems to be a trend withBirdich, but he was just consistent. He didn't necessarily have this like the xfactor to beat the big four, but he made twelve master semifinals and lost three matches in finals, so,although he doesn't have a master's win,...

...which is a big like xx to his name, thefact that he got to the semi Finals Fifteen Times shows how competitive hewas, and he was probably clearly better than the rest of the tour but justcouldn't match it with the big four he also like. I know I keep harping onthis, but he also has two Davis Cups to his name, which once again, I reallylike in a players resume. So that's why I've got him a number nine. Do you guyshave him in your tens? Yes, for me he came a number eight just above delPotro, so I was my next on the list. Yeah Yeah, just for all the samereasons that you've talked about extremely consistent over the entiredecade, except for the last couple of years, where we just faded just beforehis retirement. But you know that's to be expected and yeah just never able to be. He never able to really challengetop four guys. You know consistent sense compared to guys, like team ordel Potro, who were below him, who have had definitely been able to challenge atop for guys better, but just the consistency over the entire decade andbe able to perform week and weekout and always Manag US always reliable kind ofis always a super reliable guy to beat the people that he should be yeah. That's. Why is at the top ten?For me, e number, eight yeah, Birditch Berdit,just missed out for me, like Songa es he's, shown superb consistency but asas Browny just said, didn't really challenge the top guys and didn't hedidn't win a masters. Correct me if IM wrong yeah, now you're right there yeahso and then he and Songo were unlucky. I thinkbecause they had to play the big four Murray included all in ther throughouttheir primes, whereas the next Gen I sowt of getting them when they're onthe decline. I feel like especially like Roger Yeah, not so much yeah.Exactly but even Novakin and Dar, I think their primes were two thosand andten to two thousand and fifteen yeah and like no bak had his injury andstuff yeah, they would have played him coming back from that, but yeah justthe fact that they they never really were awoule to beat them. So that's whyI just me stay out for me. Yeah know. I do see that train of thought. I think, based onyour two pick so far, it's kind of clear that you've gone for who was bestat their peek wer me and Brownie of maybe let preferred longgevity. Sothat's whay have we've done everyone them everyone's number, nine correct,correct, correct. Have we touched on your number eight pilch we have not,and for me the toughest the toughest selection was deciding between my seven and eightChiliten, for it correct yeah and F. That was my telfas to I have decided onplacing Maren chillice at number eight and he's at his peak he's shown someabsolutely unreal performances, the UF Open, thirty one where es tmash, FederaSmashnishicory, who would just smash jokovitch and two other Grand SoneFinals as well. But if you look at his head to head records against the bigfour or even players like del Potro, he's just absolutely shocking. It'slike it's just ten percent against all those guys and is overall windpercentageas. Well, just isn't great. So I have of put him at number. Eight, despite Thi Lam Oyou have him brownyeah. I've got a Mitnumber, seven yeah, yeah Simala, so he's gotten above the other guys just based on his GrandSlam, pretty much, although it's probably fair to say that the other three have a bit moreconsistency in their game, because he...

...is definitely when he's performing whenhe's on he's very much on, but he does have a bit of. I feel like he hasa bit of a habit of just being a little bit up and down and not bing able topiece the results together and be able to go deep in tournaments, consistentlyyeah, but that Grand Slam goes very far in this decade because they were veryhard to come by if you're, not one of the top three or not one of the topfour guys so yeah. Getting a grand slam in this decade is something that isextremely impressive and he did yeah. He did have im and it's not like he gotthrough that ground stame without playing any of the top guys either. So that puts thim at number seven. For me,yeah Chilich was, for me he's almost like a male version of Petrick ofvideva,but probably a little bit more inconsistent in his like. If you take a month of ChillachI'd say it would be more inconsistent than Covideva, butwhen he's on he's on, like I think, what do you call? I pilch when he readlines it or something? That's how you used to describe o run yeah, that's howyou described his run in the two thousand and eighteen iwas open wherehe would just any ball. He would see he would just try and hit a winner Bas,like it yeah yeah, and he had a really rich van of form in that tornament. Iremember where I think it might have been a semifinal match, or maybe Hi'scuared a final match, but it was kind of like you genuinely thought he wasgoing to win another Lam, so when he's on, he can be destructive, but he's noton at all like much at all, really or add his very peak, so he usually playswithin that level. So that's why well, he is above for EFORME. Did youguys put him Abuve for er no he's below foreto me yeah. I've got foraur atseven. I Hout for out six. So just above chillage yeah for me, chillatressfor air was the hardest choice of the whole list. To be honest, Chillich I'vegot chilch Abov for are for as basically better than him an everysingle start, except for the grandslam. So I can definitely see why, for itwould be above him, but for me, as you guys were saying, the Grand Slam was sohard to come by in this decade and for although he made a Grand Slam final, hegot absolutely wipped. So I don't think he was ever really that close, despitemaking lots of semifinals in one final. So yeah, that's why I had chiluch abovefor Ed, but I can definitely see why you put for air above chillage. So doyou guys have chilc at seven and then Brownaw, you haveing that six. I knowI've Chille, no o star, sorry and I've forread six credit yeah Jonta talk abit about for I yeah, so David fores, just myster consistency, its fair tosay, and even if like talked about birdis before but foras that, but I'mnot level really just always being the guys that heshould be beating and then losing to the guys who should be losing to prettymuch h. Did he win a Master's title? I think hewon one one Paris and a six finals yeah and then also, of course, got smashed by Rafi inthe Onlegor Ansliin. Finally, ever made just a perennial kind of guy who getsthrough all the round that he should win and then comes across one of thebig four guys and doesn't even think her stands a chance than doesn't standa chance and then you know, gets absolutely destroyed, but the one thatthat I've. I used it in our last episodeabout women's tennis, anm musing it again here was I tallied up all theranking points for the last ten years from the end of each year. Just to seehow you know the consistency in the overall performanceas. I feel like it'sa good measure of that and hed came in and even though I haven't,...

I have 't mat number six in therankkings. He came up at number five in that sense because, just because ofyour supreme consistency similar to that of Birdige, so yeah- and it wasfair way above like right next to just above Berdichan Worinka but well clear of everyone else and ofcourse well behind the top big four guys, but just so consistent over thelast few years, and he probably the only thing that heard him in that sensewas just the last two years. He kind of faded away and retired. So but yeah,it's fair to say that Ireq definitely deserves that spot for me, but doth.Definitely there was no question. He wasn't going to be going any highereither coach Ou ant say anything that way youhad fraire above chilch yeah. Well. For me, it was just asBrowni said, the ultra consistency that he showed all the way up until aroundtwo thousand and seventeen ish, and he does. He did do well in a lot ofmasters as well and he made this slam final and so for me, I ave favored thelongevity this time and I think that when you, when you just waye upchillich versus forair for me, I just straightaway think for ars the superiorplayer yeah. I tend to agrieve you, I'm justlooking at Chillich down I'm trying to kind of write my head around. Why, ifyou can put him above him in the first place, but he as I was talking aboutwith Songe chiliches, one of the few players toener twenty ten and leave two thousand and nineteen with the top fifty rankingand all ten of his endorvew rankings were top forty. So, as you guys weresaying, for Er fell away in the last two years. So that's probably one ofthe reasons why I put chillage above forar- that's true yeah, but for it,for I had that number five spot down pap for a long time, yeah yeah and even though Chiltren Fred both haveone masters. Each FRA has six finals. Lilt is to his name where Chilch hasnone. So it's fair to say: Chillit, maybe capitalized on his moments morebut yeah foreurs, probably consistently the better player yeah. I think forairjust obviously lacked the bit of x factor Yeah Tut. Some of these other guys have yeahlike I like him, but it's fair to say, he's probably one of the more boringtens playes yeah. Well, I think it's clear that I have em ma number six, you guys have'et seven and eight. Do you but yeah, it's fair to say that number six islike his definite Max, like there', no question that he doesn'tdoes no way any there's, no way it was ever going to get any higher than that.Despite his consistency and everything, and for me I always kind of raited for even thoughlike half his titles where the Oll calnt open but team. This is kind of a weird pointthat I feel like team coming in and Khe hasn't. He did last year but kindof challenging the dill of the French kind of put into perspective that Prarwasn't even that close ever yeah, so it is true B T for Meing. In my mind, alittle bit I almost viewed for ours like the second clay player in thatearlier part of the decade, but then team coming in kind of put intoperspective that frare actually was just better than other players whowere yeah top for it. He couldn't even get closhe Torare wasn't better than Jokovich or Federa on quay, even if itwas on clay, whereas team is but yeah so yeah. Probably in like looking backon Fras Korear, I do feel like team. Even if it's subconsciously, maybe low,is my thoughts towards fore interesting, so avewe covered every on six to ten,already Yep Yep yeah. So now the top...

...five I feel like all of us n Hav thesame people in the same order, I'm confident of that yeah. I Know Pil. Youwere flirting with a controversial pick, but I feel like you've, probably gone with logic andStuckf to you've conformed. I did for I did floatwith it yeah, but we can discuss it. Maybe why you'd put someone abovesomeone else, but number five brownied. You want to talk to us about him. Yeahstand stand the man comean number five. Yes, just the three grand same titles.That's all you really need to say to be honest, so his consistency on across the boardin the all the other in, is ranking or is ranking in his all of the othertournaments in the year. In his masters, everything else, his on par with therest of the list below him with the six to ten, is in pretty much in everyother sense other than Grand Slams he's in number. Six He's a number six to tenon this list, but those three Grand Slam. Titles- definitely clearly lelevate him above the rest, because he and in all those Grand Slam titles hebeat those some of the at least one of those top three guys. I want to say Idon't know that as a fact, but I'm pretty sure it's the case yeah he did.He did so it's fair to say that the fact thathe was able to bring it to those guys and beatthem on the biggest stage, not just once, but consistence,consistently over the peer that he when hes grand slans easily gets him in thenumber five spot without a question in my opinion- and I think you guys also have him there at the number fiveyeah obviously do. As you were saying, if you take away his grand slim, winshe's not really got an outstanding record like I was just looking at it.If I covered his Grand Slam, win number I would genuinely prefer songes starts because he's basically gotsimilar or just a bit better in every single thing, but those three GrandSlam wins are so impressive, yeah. So, on a bit of a more technical tennispoint, as I don't really watch tennis to depthly in terms of like thetechniqu and stuff, why do you think Stan had the ability to beat like thetop for where a someone like a chillachor forar just couldn't reallyeven get close like what did Stan have in his play that man ising well? First of all, he has thisFivehour Yeah Yep the serious firepower on both sides so doesn't really have a weakarside interms of your forehand and backhand like he can smack witers off both wingsconsistently and then it just a bit more. I can't think of the word, but comparedto someone like chillage or birdage he's just a bit more. I want to say abit more with it. I'm not sure if that really makes sense, but I just feellike Het's a bit more switched on and a bit more just a Haeni. I, and also justhas a bit more like a his game, is just a bit more adaptable. If that makessense, yea here use, it has the ability to like perform on all services andjust to adapt this game and change things up, and whereas Burich andchillage, which are just the two guys I'm just comparing to because they bothhave also a big massivfir power. Just Y can't switch things up enougf and can'tthrow out anything different, like the big four guys know: whate they're goingto get when Berdich and Chillat stepet on the court and they and the they candeal with that the best they can, of course, if chillaches on Eddy's best,maybe children can get them, but probably not because they know whatthey're going to get the only other guy that can do that is delpotro alongsideRinka but of course Di Pochos had all of these injuries and such, which iswhy he's not on that same level but...

...yeah. That's what I think that's myopinion on that matter. But of course he probably I don't have checked thisstat, but he I assume he still as a losing record against all of those guysand hasn't been able to consistently put it up. But across the entire year, offcross theentire decade at all really, but on the big stages he just knows what to do. Yeah, YEP H S, his record against thebig four is pretty terrible overall but yeah it as Brownie said hisfirepower and just the fact that, if he's red lining and not missing balls,then he's Goinna hit. He can hit anyone off the court it' just a matter ofdoing it consistently yeah ut. Obviously the impressive thing is thefact that he is able to do it for the slams yeah. That's impressive, yeah and K esa case to me made that is his French Open win is possibly the greatest levelof tennis ever seen because he's beaten an absolute peakJokovich, who beaten a dale in the cord of final in straight sets at RolandGarris, he's absolutely destroyed him, but yeah anyway, yeah his him andEhimeas Peik is as good as the top for for sure he's. Just not a dis Pik conas consistently of those guys like what was happened to him he's just not as Idon't think his is determined. I'm going. To be honest, he's not Yeto, hedoesn't have the determination or the will power to really be bothered to bethat good, all the time throughout the entire year, like I'm sure, Hes, wouldn't I'm sure,like he wat, still wants to win but likewhen it really comes down to it. He can just really step up his game and hedefinitely has done that in some every jokovitch Wer Imean just look at thematches. Just look at the Borinkajokoitch matcers, the astralianopen, the FATSOM, absolutely incredible matches and tjokovitch at his Pek atthe Austra and open is one like other than a dirl. The French Open, probablyone of the hardest places to beat someone over five sets and Arinka hastaken him to five a few times and gotten over him. Just because hejussteps up and you know- can really take it to them. Yeah the levely gets to isridiculous. Yeah and the one like on a more technical note, the fact that hecan red line massively off both sides, his back out its the best backhand, thebest one hand backen on in the game. That's for sure, and then Yoall, of course, on theforehand he can smack it as well, so that helps as well yeah he's a bit of a cult hero inAustralia. I feel like Stan the man I think most people who tennis fans or even casual tennis fanswhen the Australian summer roles round would know who Stan the man is his yeah,pretty iconic, and just that three or four year period, where youwere pretty much guaranteed to have a five set semifinal, no matter like thecombedation of who was playing, but the big foreign stan always put on ashow in the semis, and you couldn't really miss it. If you're a sports fanso now onto number four, do we all have andy marry? Yes pilt. I have gone with Annie Murray,but I felt like it was actually very tight between him and federal. Why haveyou gone with Mariet for Pilch? Well, firstly, five slams to three: WhenFedera came back in one those three slams that probably got him over theline: Hes Au, he fetter also one more masters and had a better record againstJokevichin Adal than Mary did and also just I think he was leading Marray Seventofive in the decade and more weks at number one. So that's what got TomMover the line for me...

Wewere you considering it Brownie ornot at all? No far to say I mean when you brought it up earlier in the weekwhen we were having when ye were trading about it. I'd had a quick thingand then I looked at all the stats- and I was like wit, Federa- didn't have histwo thousand and seventeen run and or two thousand and seventeen earlythwenty eightheen run. Then it's very much possible, but once you know once the end of thousendand seventeen rolled around there's, no no coming back vharny marry in thatsense like his just on it he's just you know, perennially going to forevergoing to be the number four number four man you can't match with h his TAT's.Just dan't as good as those three in any way to be honest, except for Hi's,just incredible in pixe performances and then that w stops about there yeah, I'm, unfortunately for Mary. I do feel in a couple years. The bigfour will low longer beer term used in tennis, and I jus before its three, bepretty much being the big three. The last since I want to say since, liketwenty sixteen or twenty twenty sixten since or since Andie marry got injuredin two thousand and seventeen, it's pretty much just been the big threeyeah I do. I do feel for mother there. But let's do we have been a bit sour onMary, but let's talk about why he is good enough to be number for so in mylittle median and erview rank thing he has for his meet in Rankes, for whichwas spriganly higher than like the fifthwho was seventh, who was seven with Fraran Berdich, so that that's clearlybetter than the rest and then he's got three slams like stand, but has sevenfinals losses were stand, andlhey had one so it does show, although he wasplaying probably the best three tens players of all time. It does show that he was a bit of achoke artist. For a little bit. There he's got Ta win in the end of Yiew tofinals. He has ten masters winds. He, as we have said. Probably the greatestthing in his resume is his two gold medals up the Olympics. No one else wasallowed a gold medal in this decade, so he's probably pissed a few people offthere, but they can colp. He got a Davis Cup as well. He carriedCarlemmand by the scruff of the neck to get to the title. For the UnitedKingdom, forty on weeks, an number one I've got here so pretty outstandingplayer, really tweanty. Six teams is here yet his quick was two thousand andsixteen he's quick claim he on. When would any one the world to a finalspent most o the year at world number one and then yeah, and he got the yearand number one as well. Yeah he's a bit of a shout of him. It becoming a topfoor of big four. But then you know just injury since then, and but alsothat year it's Fer O, say twohand and Sixteen Wasnin the most competitiveyear, because jock o vicin, sorry Nadall and Federa were'n around forlots of that year, either yeah at's, true Yeph and Jokovich.Didn't Jokovich get surgery only a couple year, maybe a year or two afterthat, so he was probably playing through pain. You could say: Yeah well,potentiarly, Okovitch Jokovich in the second Hafffof two thousand and sixteenhis level dropped off. A lot was that the year he won the French Open Yeah,he just went. He won the French Open and then kind of Lostto Beta motivationafter that exactly yeah. So looking back with hindsight's, probably Nice,that marry had his two thousand and sixteen of dominance after three orfour years, where he couldn't get the win at home, he was losing all thesefinals. He would just cry every time the ceremony would happen. He was a bitof a joke really. So I'm happy for him that a player of his calber got thatcelebrity Kindo of run and at the in...

...the end it was kind of like his swansong to Ar as injuries took place in two thousand and seventeen and kind ofsince then, he's tried to come back a couple times, but it's not really everbeen too successful. I think, did HEU get it. Did you win A to fifty lastyearalso yeah near the end of last year? He got back to win e O dred ad fifty,but it's a bit too late to make any impact all in the year. So we'vealready alluded to it, but number three Roger Fedra. Do We all have RogerNumber? Three? Yes, Yep yeah. So he's arguably the goat oftennis, but that's a debate for another time. I'm sure pilt disagrees as ajockvitch fanboy, but Federa is a deadset legend of the game. Here. I'vegot he had about fifty weeks and number one, I'm not sur the exact number, ashe had a number one rain from twotsand mid, two thousand n nine to twothousand and ten, and I couldn't be stuffed to count the weeks N. I thinkit was forty eight yeah fuck, I guess forty nine but Il cauht- that he had five grand slams five Grand Slam,final Walses, so dead, Bang in the middle there to to a fine he's, thabeast at the two of finals: Yeah Hes got the re yeah there's only one yearwhere maybe he didn't make it that yeursomething, but there's only one year he didn't get to the semis all further. Heloves those GT. The decade, yeah well, Yoad two wins three finalsosses and four semifinals losses. So he doesn't relax at the end of the year,like rougher, maybe does, and he is well below the others in a few starts,but masters twelve wins compared o the Dan Jock pitches twint combined fortynine. So he was a bit worse in the masters than those two. However, thefive hundreds is where he takes the PISS. He has sixteen fivehundred titles, where the next best is the DAL with eleven. So I guess theyreeasy so makes sense, but I'm not sure why he's got such a huge dominance in five hundredscompared to those two half of them are probably like, hawl or Halla, orwhatever you say, yea and Yeah Bats Yeah. I think this one ten Barsel hasyo won ten in Balso and Hella or something he's like SOM yeah. He alwayshe always wins those two gant God and he's got the silver medalin the Olympics, which means he lost to marry, not even sure which year whatyear is that two thousand and Twelve Yeap Twenty twelve jl play was twothousand and sixteen, and then I think I don't know what year was it mighthave been like two thousand and fifteen Himanstan decided to team up a bit likethe avengers and they took Switzerland to a Davis Cup title, which is PrettyBizarre, given the fact that it Switzerland. So would you guys like to say anythingelse about the great man and u'be Threeo probably could have won a DavisCup six times as they both play, yeah Te, but neither of them ever playingthem one year thy. They just both decide unless Wen it this year and theydid and then Everyon II didn't pick my top town on DavisCups. I'm just saying that, but everyone of my top ten is wone a DavisCop, but no one has wone it more than twice so it seems to be a thing inman's tenats that you just go all right: Davis cut this year: Let's do it andthen maybe h, maybe they're plain it. This is my year N and next you can bearisy and then jog, oos and then bi of a rotation yeah, it's Roger, was a clear threeI'll just say this tacks. I think it's interesting. The total number of pointsfor the decade, so forair was the fifth in that fifth in that rank with that wish.Thirty three thousand marry fourth with fifty five thousand and Fed er, a thirdwith seventy five thousand, so theyre all like twenty thousand apart. So it'sall very clear that no one is damp. No one is getting close to the top for andhe isn't getting closed to number three...

...and then a raffer comes into eightyfive thousand, so rodger is 'n geting close number to it's all, pretty it alllike even things out pretty much. That's that start is pretty goodindicator. In my opinion, of how the overall performance of thedecade is yeah good measure of consistency as well, yeah Betera wasjust always at the in Thein, the top for, whereas marry did fall off, yeahward, the end, but because of injury yeah, so Brown, that's enough for rojaireckon Brownye. Who Have you got it number two Rafa? Oh, what a SHORP WAI DO. We all have rapper number twoow will PILC. Will I so don't even have to ask- and I can se my only so yeahwe've all got. Rano number two was very. That was all that was pretty clear tome as well: Yeah Yep. So, let's just chat about in the Dal.We can't do a just service to him and just jump over join it discuss hisstarts, Browni sure so, wone, thirteen grand slams in the decade, I want tosay eight of them- will roll ind garrises. I can't confirm that, but Ithink you lost twice this deaded the French and then he lost six grands lamp finalshasn't won a world to a finals. Ever I don't he's. Never never provided anyperformances there, but, and then one twenty masters titles during the decade,so it Starta clearly above rodgers but clearly below Novac the same time yeah.It's been very consistent over the decade, the only player to finish theyear in the top ten or ten years, because he's two thousand and sixteenwhich was his year, no vack and Roger both had nine,because two thousand and sixteen when Roger, had some time off. He dippedjust outside a number. Sixteen and no vack when he had his bid, tipe bittertime off in tousand and seventeen dip just outside number, twelve, but ratermanaged to stay at number nine when he had his time off in two thousand andsixteen. So the only player finish all ten years in the top ten, which is which is very impressive from him yeahthat is impressive, yeah, not much else to say. Just a clay. Court masterdominates the French Open, which gets all getty SGRAND slan stats upvery highly, very impressive there yeah and as on the Davis Cup lover, he has onetwo Davis Cups, which makes him him and Thomas Berdet to the onlypeople tohave one more than one in this list, so good on him. Not that hard,really when you're one of the top three players of all time- and you also havelike six other countrymen who made top twenty appearances in the year, sodon't even want to credit him for that one. But Spain's actually would you say:Spain has been the best country in this decade, yeah in terms of terms like way: Davis,Car Yeah, not Davis, carbent, I'd, say so ell, I guess yeah. I guess you coansay Switzerland, because e Switzerlands Yeah have two that are better but take following of you into the yeah.Definitely and then, because of an adull and for a Spain,probably go over France and terms of the total because they have a bit morequality. Very young frands do because they frants and Spain both have largenumbers. They just I don't know how it is. Theyjust always have two or three people in between like rank ten and rank twentyfive and every two years had just changed change the late time. At themoment, it's like Corana, buster and Betista good and then at the side ofthe decade it was probably Filichano Lopez, an Fenanda VIDASCO and then inbetween it's been like Nicholas l, Magro, and they just have first alllike coming and out they can. They can't not have all of those players Aveend top ten. At some point, Ye made...

...quick appearances into the top ten,which is absolutely outrageous to think about yeah. It's impressive, all right, so pilch, I'm Goinna alsoRaffe had a hundred and fifty eight weeks and number one so fair play mydude all right. Pilch, I'm going to give you the honors presenting thenumber one player, sell US mates that we've got hem atnumber one as well, but sell the listeners. Why novacshould be numberone on your list? Well, I don't think there is much to sell the numbers speakfor themselves, but I mean far and away the best player on hard courts far andaway the best player on grass courts ahead of Federer and Murry, and noteven Fab, although he doesn't have the French Open titles, but his recordagainst Edarlon clay he's only down eight seven in the decade, so the onlyEvin is not even far off in that department either. So I think I knowyou guys are brought up team and forair, but I think he's easily the second bestclay court player across the decade, Tame close between him and team forcurrently, because jokovitch still wins those Rome, Madrid masses but yeah. Just also the weeks at number,one most lambs Easaly the most masters, most Tou finals. I mean the only thinghe doesn't have his Olympics, but you can't really say much else. I wonder if you'll try really did hewin the two thousand and eight did you winan medal at two in two thousand andeight do you know at the Olympics? I think Theda one gold, but no back one bronzs in two thousandand twelve- that's about you'd- have to think next year the Olympics hes goingto have a real crack at God yeah he definitely. He definitely is thatthat's his number one priority. I can definitely say that yeah t that wouldbe something he'd want to tick off because he's pretty much tickedeverything else off. Yeah the only question mark on he next name. Hehasn't want a Hotman Cup pilch and I don't know if I can look past that Nitewe've got Roger with two wins. Even body Songa has one win. I think you manis lacking ther, their lookias, hoping you didn't bring up the Hopman Cupbecause I was hover to SOM. Keepis is resume clean, but yeap and he's never one an next genfinals either. So I think I's a fraud, but we we weretalking on the women's podcast the other day with Campbell that houseDominante, Serena is and how there was no question. She was number one. She'sbeen number one rank for two hundred and forty one weeks in that decade andJockvitch is just gone and whipped out two hundred and seventy five weeks soyeahthough. You would obviously consider this decade to be rigt ruled by Choka Vicadadan Federa. It O you can almost say it's been realBajokovitch, if I'm honest like I don't want to give you that Ego Bruce Pilch,but and is only got a coupflan AA facts but yeah. Interestingly, I don'tbelieve Jokovich has the decade record for mostweeks. I believe Sam Prass or Sampson in thein the S. I think he beat im by one week but yeah anyway, Youli fanevew. Hehas ever averaged over tenhusand ranking points of season sater, that's ridiculous. His averagetenthousand five hundred ranking points a season over the decade yeah and onhis wo Thosand, a fifteen, his wo thousand and fifteen season. He wonthree slams lost in the final of the other one, one, six out of the ninemasters and on the two finals, a win percentage of like ninety four percentor something yeah finish that year with...

...sixteen thousand five hundred rankingpoints, which is the most outrageous number of ev. That's probably the mostdominant single year of tennis of all time, illi'd Hav back myself to Steilla point, though just rip one, just Rit one down theline: Yeah, no he's not a bad player I'llgive that to you pilch. So THAT'S REALLY NI! Wait! Really A did.You enjoy the recent wel. Who would you like to who just missed you out on yourlist that you would like to give a quick shit haytting? I she cory. I justlike to keep quick Shat outter him yeah Heas, my number eleven team and I spentabout I finished my list with a number ten team. Nisy cory spent about half anhour staring at the two names, making a decision and took me a long time and Icouldn't make a decision. So I just chose team because I, like him ore, I'mgoing to be brue going to be, unfortunately honesty, but nishikorydoes have a lot of considency over the decade. Just doesn't have doesn't havethe big title: Winds, no Masters Wins just the one grand same fineal, yeahwer lost to Chillich and just even though he's being consistent justanother one of those guys who can't really take it to the big playes asmuch as most other other people on the list can so yeah exactyt. What happened in that Grand Slam by theway Nishi, Kory and Chillach, beat no vackand fet no vack and Rodger in the semies yeah and then Playn each otherEbindi yeah that is Oyeah Thas Strano raise it was the most smost ourageoustgrand flaer all I'll say is that sounds like matchfixing to me, I'll just throwit out sit. I wonder if Thichikori can snag the gold at the Olympics next year,Home Cra yeah, I thin. I think he won bronze at Rio, yea yeah, he did yeawell, he made the semis. I've got written here, so I don't know if he wonthe third place. He probably did, though yeah, I think you bat, the Zab, but no,I you dot tly pulled out yeah delp, ime yeah, so Nishakorian team justmissed out for me, also shoud out to Robin sodeing a career cut short. Ithink I think he has to retie because he hadlike a heart disease s yeah, which is quite sad, although I do jokethe fact that, like he's on my list and because he lost to Raffer the Frenchbut probably could have been a great player and you never know what he couldhave done, but unfortunately career was cut short, so also like to mention himbut yeah anyone else who is close to your list apart from Nishekory team.For me, anyone else well Mi. My two were songer and Bareditch for raisins,already discussed Canyes, my iad three, so Nisyou Coa just messedand then for me round itch and Songer Wer, my other two that missed I out, but they were for me they were a bitoff, so they weren't yeah. They missed. I out they weren't. Really there waswhat wasn't much content contention for them getting in there. When I trulywent through everything for me, yeah did you enjoy the research lads, yeah,absolutely loved it. Yeahi'll be honest. I did prefer thewomen's Riec, because I genuinely going in probably only new five or five orsix players who were definitely in wherin this list. I knew like sixpeople in their exact position before ieven started, so although it wasreally fun and I actually made a list of twenty, so the bottom half was funbut yeah. The the dominance of the big dogs of this decade maybe made theman's a little bit less riveting to do the research, but ye ITA still fun. Sothanks for joining me, boys hope you...

...enjoyed it and I'm sure you'll be backon very soon and obviously, whenever it is might be not till next year, butonce the tennis gets going again, will you guys will be on regularly and we'llbe discussing the tennis toar, as we normally do in our day today? LivesAnyway, so did you enjoy it? Yeah startly did Mak all right thanks boysand, if you're still listening, get a life which es love you fiht is.

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