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Liverpool Team of the Decade - Episode 29

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Rhett joins Hamish to discuss Liverpool's Team of the Decade from 2010/11 to 2019/20 fresh off the back of Liverpool being crowned as champions of the Premier Leauge.

Cheers. Hey settle, welcome back to the on the wall podcast. This is episode twenty nine of the show, once again joined by Rhet as you can see on Youtube, but obviously can't see him on spotify and stuff. So rrette, welcome back, man. Thanks Pat. How are you going? Yeah, very good, very good day for our club, Liverpool. Yeah, the crown. We're recording this on Friday morning, so genuinely, as of three hours ago, we were crowned champions of England and Wales as well. You know, it's kind of Welsh ns will claim an extra country first time. Yeah, yeah, first time in Premier League history. We broke the record for the earliest title, like clinching those still seven games left. I think the record was like for something. So just Arin Jo nation from the lads chassis, doing us a favor for once. Yeahcus it. Yeah, they repaid us for the slip. Now, I have to say it like it's still a great feeling and like when I was watching it, I watched, I've sending the Larm for the last twenty minutes so I could suss what was happening and obviously watch the last twenty because man city went't winning and like you're still an elite feeling, but I have to say part of me wishes like they were playing when they won. Yeah, I feel like it was just anticlimactic because of the whole virus and like everybody knew we're going to win. Yeah, let's like it was kind of fitting. Almost. Yeah, we weren't there to even celebrate, but it would have been nice to see like the lads like sprinting on the ground, like getting around each other and stuff. But yeah, but it's kind of a it's kind of elite that will be rolling into the Eddie had and getting a guard of honor. So, yeah, I think that's the best, the best part about it. That's also pretty Alpha for the boys. So yeah, that's two leagues wrapped up now. Well, I guess you can count the French league as well, so three at the big five wrapped up. Today we're going to be talking about the team we've been mentioning, Liverpool. We're going to be doing a team of the decade. But firstly, have you been watching much of the soccer? Yeah, I've been watching like the replays and stuff. I haven't been getting up at like the normal times, like three am now, but I mean following it closely. Yeah, it's kind of annoying for us. It's like because they're games are during the week, they're they're like after school and work hours. Yeah, so like for us it's like three and five o'clock. So I can't we can't really watch any unless we just destroy our sleep patterns. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I haven't really been watching anything button mini matches. Yeah, but in terms of the other leagues going around, I haven't caught too much. If I'm honest. I watched Athletico Mad drude play a couple times and I actually haven't watched any of the Syria yet, but I'm just looking at the tables now. Real Madrid and bars are tired at the top on sixty eight points, so that's pretty exciting. Think bast Barster drew to severe the other day, which allowed round with drew to get back into it, and then in this series they're still eleven games to go in this area, which is pretty random. Now they because they cut off early because the virus spread their super far. That, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, Latsio lost this morning to add alunter. Actually that might have been yesterday, but today now they're four points back on UVE A and into eight points back because they drew with subswallow yesterday. So it does look like you'vey's going to get away with that one. But they're still eleven matches left and four points isn't much. But I don't know if entire can win, if I'm honest, which is probably annoying because they would probably more of a hope than you, Latzia, I think. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Chelsea's win this morning is actually not only great for us, pretty good for them. Yeah, like sollidified it. Fourth, they're five points ahead of united, so that'd be a pretty amazing feat for frank lamp part if he can get Champions League A in his first year, but also with the transfer band. Like. Yeah, I agree. I think they've looked arguably the best team since that. Since we've come back, they've looked pretty good, I reckon. Yeah, it's true. Yeah,...

...like we looked pretty average in our first game and then city. They've looked good in the possession as always, but they haven't really been able to get clear cut up duties and then Lester, they look a bit work if I'm honest. Yeah, they didn't look great in their last in their last game, I think. Yea. Yeah, bridge, they kind of just passing it to Madison and just go on like just have on some you can't do all the time. Unless ben she'll will just keep scoring screamers from left back. But yeah, that was a big quick of his life. So wolves are also in that race the fourth, which is pretty impressive on their part. They're tied at forty nine with united. So I think Chelsea might have fourth wrapped up, but they're still seven games to go and you can easily track five points down. So I think they's still have to play. They're still got to play us in then in a couple games. Two Games, baby, Chelsea. Are we still to play them? We don't. Other than their next five of them actually play any good teams in their next five. So like son play any like top eight teams? Yeah, wolves play as senile, but they're nine team, not a top eight team. Yeah, yeah, so we'll just roll into it. Yeah, it's actually when would just we're talking about Chelsea. It looks like they're legit going to benefit from their transfer band, the way their players are developing like pusy. Yeah, and then now they have like two years worth of budget to spend. Yeah, and there they're going to spend it. You just know. Yeah, like on twitter, I've been doing these tweets because, like, I genuinely reckon salary cap transfer band doping bands aren't big enough in the sport. Like yeah, I'm going to come out of this. She is going to come out of this better. I think essendon like random conversations, sock episode, but I think Essendon came out in the long term better out of the doping saga. Yeah, then Melbourne storm came out better out of their salary cap saga. So I think there needs to be stuff looked at there. But that's an knowed chat for another day. Not Such particularly in soccaware they get banned. I mean they get find it like a couple meal and you see them spending like hundred players, like come on, yeah, is Man City getting banned? I think they're just going to fight it. Yeah, I think they're fighting it right now in the courts because that could mean united or wolves getting either way. So we don't know what's going to go on there. So let's roll into our team the decade. I think it's going to be pretty similar. I have to say you were saying, Oh, this is going to be a piece. I like we've got to have the same team. I was like, Oh, I don't think so, and then I've picked it and I've got yeah, yeah, look, we Max got three different players here. Yeah, I was trying not to just favor this current team, but like obviously it's the best team we've had because it's the only team that's gone on in one title. Is Basically Yeah, I've got a few rogue will not row, but I've got a few players from other teams as well. What formation did you roll with? I'm gone the for three one, nae. I went the for three, three, just because like that's what we've been playing the last couple of years. Yeah. So, and manager, you have a you can clop. Just like to point out best manager in the world right now. Yeah, by far, by far. Yeah, and then he's second in charge. could be brandon Rogers. He was actually pretty decent for the full yeah, he's like he just fell for cliff like after he's yeah, I feel like he was a bit like over criticized almost because if you take away so you're in clock came in and like October. If you take away that, start to that season I think he had like a sixty percent win percentage or something, which is like fives intersting something like that. That's pretty exasy. Yeah, he has low s at the mote, like now that he's finished. So I think if you take away that really bad two month period, I think he would be up there, close to sixty, and then jogon clubs is like sixty five. So He's Ching not that far off. Yeah, I'm not saying he's as good as you can clock, but I think he's actually good manager and he's shown that. Would Lester this year. Yeah, so they will be my two boys, sorry, Roy Hodgson and Kenny Dad lasia, both a couple years from carking and I think right. Well, I think we'll start back to front. So goalkeeper. Who you got me? Carriers, I'm just hanging like. I'm going with Alison Howison. Yeah, how are you going with? I've actually this is one where I think this will be like the only thing up different. I went with Peppe a rainer. Yeah, I think I think Alison. If I had to pick one like in their prime time Liverpool, in terms of just to play one match, I probably pick alison because he's like I think he's better keeper, but Peppe Rana played forty three more matches, so like it's effectively a whole other season. Yeah, and then I was just looking at some simple stats. I...

...was looking at safe percentage. So this is out of all the shots on target they face, how many they save, and Pepe rainers is actually thirty percent. Meanwhile Alison's is twenty one percent. Of Menu Lass twenty percent. So like that that's pretty good effit from pepper RAINU. Yeah, right, yeah, Alison probably has more clean sheets, like a better ratio. He's got thirty three and sixty, where rains got forty in a hundred and three. But I think you can put that down to Virgil Van Dyke as well. Yeah, but you got it. You got to checking the one assist Allison as well. Yeah, sure, kind of scared it. Yeah, that's actually a good point. Pepper a Raina, well know one in world football, I don't think, has the distribution of Alison. But yeah, that's a fair call. I was pretty tight one. Also menu lay. He was a clear third. But I have to say I think similar to Rogers, I feel like in reflection, people were just look at you in the lace errors. He actually produced a lot of great saves. I remember like giving a lot of penalties as well. Yeah, and he kind of played in between the two peaks, almost like I'm pretty sure he was actually the keeper in the season where the slip happened. But yeah, like after that season and before clop came in, we didn't. We like had a few off years. Yeah, well, that was not long in between, but like a couple years inter clock. And so he was playing with a lot worse defenses, like he was Coppin love for, and I kind of think of who we've been the other center backs. But Um, yeah, he was dealing with a lot of crap and although he made it more how's and pepper, Raina and Alison, I do think he is just a bit of a meme for no reason really. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think he's pretty good goalkeeper, especially when you compare him to areas you like not that's what a shit got. People looks like yeah, legit. Yeah, yeah, so that's well. I was going to say it's pretty easy, but I guess I've gone with different players there. But pretty much a flip of a coin, I'd say. Yeah, for sure. Both great goalkeepers. Now we're on to left back. I didn't actually think I was going to pick this guy because he didn't play too many years with he hasn't played too many years with Liverpool. But yeah, I've gone with Andrew Robinson. Yeah, I'm gone with him as well. It's like it's like he's only played maybe, I think, less than a hundred games. But and you check his competition, the likes of a marina. Yeah, it Wos a Enrique and Alberta Marino there like the next two and they are nothing special. Yeah, so I'll better. Marina was shit. He's first year he was okay and then it just went off a cliff from there. Yeah, like he was. He was one of those plays. It was just known for when Liverpool and known fammaking defensive errors. He was just the scape guy every time. Yeah, I remember that Europa League final or whatever where he just had an absolute shocker. Yeah, is either that all like a semi final something? Yeah, there's one match where, yeah, he just had like three or four errors and arguably just cost us a match. But yeah, so Robinson's only played three seasons, as you were mentioning, I think just under a hundred games. Yeah, but by far superior to Jose Enrique and Alberto Marino. Yeah, I Enrique, he was okay, he was just like a solid player, nothing special. Then Marino, he was a leftwinger pretending to be a left back. Let's be real, pretty good is. It was all right out attack. Yeah, but he could not, he could not defend. Yeah, and like Robertson's just completely blown him out of the water since he's come in. He's shown that like you can do both Robertson's. Robinson's got twenty four premier league assists in three seasons, which is pretty insane for a fullback. Yeah, thank you. Got Eleven last season, which was is one of the most like the best holes forming defender in the history, like excluding Trent in the last two seasons, and I think will maybe Latin Baynes one season. I think that's up there with the best ever. Yeah, he in terms of per ninety's had like around zero point three since it's been in the premier league. So that's pretty nuts. Yeah, that's like well, just just worse than one every three games. It's pretty insane. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't think I was too hard, to be honest. Not much else to say on the great man. Oh yeah, yeah, more to give. I think people kind of overlooking because of truck like trends, like the sweetheart, I guess, of Little Bool. Well, he is in my eyes, the things I do...

...to that man. Yeah, but I think it's easy to overlooking, but especially when you consider his defensive how solid he is defensively. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think he's definitely more defensively solid than Trent. Yeah, and to consider still give gave like eleven assist last season's pretty remarkable stuff from right in it. I don't think he's the most talented soccer play, which is another thing that I admire. Like for him, it's eighty percent work right now, attitude. Yeah, actually think. I actually think it's the case for a few of these players in the little full team, which I yeah, for sure what I think. That's what makes him so likable. Yeah, but I feel like clop identifies their strengths and he and they just play to them like so well, like he doesn't ask Robertson to dribble or to spend too much time in the ball. He like he's either crossing or he's using his pace to like create space and stuff like that. So I think he just uses his strength and he just his IQ as well. He's pretty good and in my opinion, I can yeah, he's really arguably my favorite player, like because, a, he's Scottish and I'm like half Scottish or whatever, so I love that. And then also, like, I've played a full back when I play soccer. So yeah, although I was on the other side, I still, like you, still kind of admire the people who play in your position. Yeah, it's uncanny the likeness in the playing stuff. Yeah, I'm definitely I actually think I played pretty similar to obviously at the lower standard, but definitely think I'm more of the also debatable folks. I think I'm more of him than a trend. I think she's a bit Transi bit silkier than me. I'm a bit of like a like. I don't think I'm that naturally gifted at soccer. I think I kind of just shit house my way through it. That's harsh. He crossings gifted. Well, yeah, out of that so Robert since great the start of his time. But yeah, it comes developed it, whereas Trent just just pings them in from forty out for tokly just hanging sixty yard passes. Should we just go to the right back? Yeah, I think so. That all right. So this was another one where I didn't think I was going to pick him. He's I had I had no doubts whatsoever. WHO's a fair naming my pip? I'll say the bum pilch the other night, who's friend of the show always on the podcast. Are saying there's a lot of things that happened in like two thousand and fourteen, fifteen that I thought happened in like two thousand and seventeen and eighteen. Yeah, like and it just kept popping up in the stats, like Mr Cher playing full of pool in two thousand and fourteen, like I thought he yeah, the earliest played in like two thousand and sixteen, and then trends only really been playing for two and a half years. Yeah, which is pretty crazy. Things he's done in those two and a half years, I think. No, not many players ever haven't done in their first two and a half years it in professional football, I'd say. Yeah, so he's played even less games than Andy Robertson, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think he's played or what's that? Fifty seven, sixty, five, seventy five matches, so in the Premier League. But his assist levels are even more stupid. So in his first eighteen matches he only managed one assist, but then in the next fifty seven he's managed twenty four. So he's going at just under one every two matches, which is just insane. Yeah, and as we saw yesterday in liver wall, two days ago, whenever it was in Liverpool's big winning against palace, he is one of the world's best free kick takers. Yeah, I think he's only going to get better as well. Yes, so when you combine his goals and assist p nine, he's he's basically exactly at zero point five. So for a full back who's all pretty decent defensively, I wouldn't say he's the greatest. Id say like Joshua Kimikoors, someone's better defensively. Yeah, but anyone who's doing goal involvements every second game, let alone a full back, you are snapping out. And he's only two thousand and twenty one. So it's pretty scary how good he's going to be. Yeah, for sure. And I think everyone talks about him moving into like midfield and stuff like that, but unless the cool sign it or develop another fullback. I think the way he can impact the game from full back, I reckon you'll end up just staying there in Liverpool to sign better midfielders. I don't know what everyone's obsession is with this in sport. Like, yeah, midfield role is more like pivotal to a team usually, but in this formation a fullbacks arguably more pivotal than a center bit. Yeah, for sure, the midfield isn't. I mean the the fullbacks in the Liverpool system way more important than they're. Then the midfield is like the you see the way the midfield is able to like rotate? Anyone can play that, basically.

Yeah, and like, if you're killing in that position, why change it's if it's not broken. Yeah, I can understand if, like they could see his potential and he wasn't he wasn't like being able to delve on it, but he's like more than delivering on what he's able to do. So, like, I guess you could argue Joshua chimicks done the same thing and it's worked well. He looks pretty well suited to CDM, but I think they're different kind of players. Like, yeah, for sure, they have different skill sets, I think. Yeah, I think kimicks more like a gritty, break it down of play, so he's more suited to cdm where trends kind of just like a silky player who I think, actually favors space on the outside. For sure. I think he needs to space. Yeah, like people compare them to Kevin debrayn. But like he's passing and like range of passing is similar to Kevin to run about, nowhere near the intricatet like dribbling and technical ability able to receive it in tight spaces. I don't think he's anywhere like Kevin Dabooner in that sense. It's just the way he passes the ball, I think. Yeah, like, I don't know whatever. In every sport this happens. Like in Footy, if you're a great small forward, it's like get him in the midfield. Yeah, in cricket, if you're like if you'd bat it six, like Steve Wall, there's always a push to get you a five. Why? Steve will actually stayed at six and now has one of the best crew records ever. Like, I don't know. There's just an obsession in sport with trying to always like push people into different things, which is strange, but just playing arounds. I'm come on, yeah, liked you goold. I'm just I'm just looking at these record. Eighty six appearances and he's only had six losses in those sixperiences. That is insane, silly. Then the two other contenders for right back. They don't both said record. I know that for a fact. They're possessing losses to like Birmingham city. Glenn Johnson was my backup. Yeah, and a close third with Nathaniel Kline. Close that, oh, yeah, as in second and third or close yet. Yeah, equally average. Yeah, both just standard players, really climb and they played two seasons, I think. Always he was pretty sloppy, just fast, and then Johnson was basically just shoot standard full back really, yeah, like often not much in attack at all, just like basically s sex quarters levels, just levels of average that you would not believe. Yeah, yeah, like a like a WHO's that? Crystal Pals right back, like Martin Kelly or Joel Warter, something I get can as between. I think it's Joel Ward, but he's only just like white blokes with basic names. Yeah, yeah, so moving into center back, this was this, it was this an easy choice for you or no? Well, I think Virgil was the easy choice, but on it the other one struggling with. Who Have you gone with? Well, first of all, I once again, I keep saying this, I didn't think I was going to pick virgil going into this, given the fact that he's only played two and a half seasons, but I was chanting to pill to last night and I feel like I like doing this. But I feel like you can't favor like someone being average for ten years then someone being great for two or three seasons. Like I don't think you can do that. And and soax not think great. You're saying that you should pick the person who's been good for two seasons or you should like that. Yeah, like I tend to prefer in when I picked teams of the decade and stuff, I tend to lean to people I've just been solid over the whole time. Yeah, you probably should just look at peak versus peak. But Yeah, I could resist picking Virgil Van Dyk, I'm happy to say, is comfortably the best center back in the world right now. Yeah, don't think many people would disagree with him. Despite all our talent in the four positions. I'd probably say he's the best little fool player of ever watched. I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone, if you took them out, would have such an impact. Yeah, yeah, so there's probably players who you'd argue a better, like Steven Gerard, Katino, Manas wires, so anyone, sterling. But van Darky, I think if you took him out, I think a team goes back to being a third or fourth contender. I think maybe only that's probably mistiff and one season maybe like Suirez, like the in fact he has. But yeah, that's true. The only like, knock on swires, as we win that season. Yeah, I think if we won that season, people would like be talking about suires is like the greatest season ever in the primer league. But as an individually, yeah, that's true. That's actually good point, because I was looking at this step. Yeah, so I've partnered with our partner, but he...

...partnered him up. I don't know what was confusing to say. I've gone with Marskirtle. Who Have you gone with? Like I was struggling because, like, I was looking at like some of the modern ones and I was like going as it's like just not played enough, and then I thought carriger might have played, but he just hasn't played. I've gone with love run even though, yeah, I think he's just he's been playing since two thousand and fourteen, or two thousand and thirteen, I think. And even though he makes mistakes, he's played in some of like Liverpool's biggest games and actually put in some some shifts. And I think because he's been he's developed with the team since we were pretty bad in at the start of their decade or towards the middle, and he's been through everything. And then I'd say he's actually putting some good performances on the way to the Champions League in particular, and then throughout last season he wasn't as as as good, but I think the balance of his performances and he's a longevity, I think I've just put him in ahead of skirtle. Yeah, I think going Gomes, Matt Heap and love and I feel like they're all overlooked just because the Virgil then die. But yeah, and there are right, all three of them. They're actually really good center backs. So yeah, I definitely think that's a fair call. Yeah, I felt was skirtle. He was like the starting center back for six seasons of the decade. Yeah, it wasn't Livingpool's most successful period. We only finished in the top six once, I think, out of those six seasons. But he was always a bit of a workhorse and defense it was like a big guy, scary dude, bit looser's times, could lose his temper, but he was pretty good. And then Daniel Aga. I can't lie, I don't recall really how good he was off the top of my head. Yeah, like I know skirtles better than Aga, but I can't really remember how good Algoris. I just couldn't really do much with him, so I've checked him as my back up. But Yeah, love and would be there or thereabouts. Yeah, I think I'd agree. I think. I think the only difference is I think maybe skirtles level might have been higher. I mean, yeah, might have been a tad higher, but I think he just he played a team that was so much worse. It's like hard to quantify how good he was compared to to love her. And if you compared like the clean sheets and stuff like that, I'm sure love for and way higher. Yeah, I'm pretty impressed though, looking at his Statsi at he's average like over sixty passes a game, basically since clops come in, which is, yeah, yeah, pretty impressive. I think you don't know. One talks about how good he is on the ball, but I think it's he's pretty underrated compared when just because his next a band, I, yes, skirtle, definitely does not possess ball playing build yeah, and like, although this isn't for Liverpool, another thing that to show lover and's level. Like, although he kind of ruled it by just going on a rant himself, he was actually really good in the World Cup for Croatia. Yeah, like him and Vita, center back the actually, even though they're both kind of mythical, they were pretty elite, a big Parton why creation made the final. Yeah, I think I think that shows his ability more than anything. He started Liverpool, to be honest, because people are always, always going to just put it up to other people, because he's also one of the people get skategoarded for like Liverpool errors and stuff like that. But I think that showed that he actually does have ability. Yeah, and he's one of the Southampton Old Boys. Yeah, but if the one of the thirty we've got, we're doing another episode in a few days where we're going. We're going to talk about how this Liverpool tied tighter winning squad was built, basically. So we'll go through that Southampton raid more. Yes, half a FRIGGIN teams from there. So it's definitely worth to mention, but I want to go into it too much now. Yeah, so, keep on edge, keep from on edge. So you've got a four, two and thirty one. My formations pretty similar because I've got an attacking midfielder, which is basically your cam and then your wings can yeah, moved out. So we'll start without too defensively minded sentimids. I'll be honest, I didn't even look at starts for this. Probably two of the biggest club legends of the decade. Yeah, I think we've gone the same people. Yeah, Gerard and Henderson. Yeah, definitely high. Yeah, I don't. I think it's easy just to pick ger are just because he's a big name, but if you actually look like how many games he played, even like even as a center bide, his goal record is, yeah, silly. I'm looking at the thirteen goals and fourteen assists in slip year.

Yeah, that was what I was with. Now I think he moved and he was playing just behind. To be fair. Ten penalty goals, but you still put him in here to put it in, and too free kicks as well. Fourteen is sists as well. That's like Kevin de Bruner levels. Yeah, I'm actually looking at that. Ten penalties and too free kicks, so he's putting one form. It's genuine Harrison car yeah, but that's great. Can look up still teeth right. That's actually I don't know if you miss you can't see if you missed any penalties, but I'm going to say you didn't. He missed one. I miss one. He missed one in four of the five seasons he played. so He's actually rubbish. Yeah, so you could probably argue that he doesn't deserve to be in it because he hasn't had the success of the likes of g genie one out and for being your millner, but he's just better than the most. You're real. Yeah, I think is mixed. Like. I don't think either of it, like any of those players, have been able to hold down a position in the team from Moreton two, two, three seasons. Yeah, yeah, they're part of like a five or six man rotation. Yeah, and if there really side right here. If they were that good, they would have hold down a spot. And like his assist numbers, obviously he's gone unders are inflated by those penalty goals. Yeah, and in these five seasons in the decade he had three seasons where he had five or more assists. In the space of two years he had twenty three assists, which is pretty insane, and these other midfields would have nothing like that. You could probably say it's because now we depend on the fullbacks to get the balls in. Yeah, whereas back then Glen Johnson and body Jose and Rique, they're not doing much. So it's got to come, got to come through the gats, but they're still got to do the assisting. So yes, dvg, I think that's too difficult. And then hand no, I'll be honest, when hando first came to the club I was not a fan at all. Yeah, till about two thousand one thousand, six hundred and seventeen, I thought he was useless and like he was he i thought he was just one of those blokes who would just get picked just because he was like a leader, but he actually didn't offer much. Yeah, in the last three or four years he's gone to another level and then it's like arguably the best midfielder in the premier league with like he's probably not the very best, but he'd be in the conversation. I'd say yeah, and I think people are recognizing it because, like they want to see England perform and I think they they can see that he's the best. England has it there at the moment, for sure, like people were talking about Declan Rice Eric Dyer, but you see some of their performances and then you see Anderson play and you like, these guys are just on indifferent. They're not on the same level as him, or I think not just yet. He has a good balance of ball playing and then defensive capabilities as well. Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of the other midfielders in the premier league heavily favorite one or the other. Like can't a dial their jacklan Ross as well. In it we're defending types and then you've got like Georgino and stuff. They're Covid Chach, them more distributors, where Henderson's a nice blend of them both. Yeah, yeah, so although in terms of goals and assists, is nothing special actually in he's early in the earlier decade he had nine assists one year, seven assist another year he said five as sisters year. So he's not too bad on this is front for a deep line, you feelink. He had a good season at Sunderland as well, where he was just like he banged them in. Yes, it's Daddy, when he was young. Yeah, Ye, had for assists in twenty three starts one year, which is although that doesn't sound much, if you scale that up to like thirty eight, that's pretty good at bath decline looking at like seven or eight in a bad team in the premier league. Yeah, so I don't think there's too much debate really. Their hando has become a legend of the club. Like I was saying before, I'd really had doubts about him when he was younger. I didn't think he had much ability at all, but he's proven me wrong and many others wrong, and now there's even like people are calling for him to win player of the year, which I don't necessarily agree with, but I could see the arguments there. Yeah, it's hot. It's like, even if you don't agree, it's hard to disagree with in my opinion. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fans. Who Will Win it? Virgil? No, I think the Bruner or like Henderson, true to Brina or Henderson or I think I'd want trend to win it,...

...but he's just he's just not going to win it from right back. Young player of you. Yeah, for sure he's got that pencil with him. Young played these stupid it's like two undred and twenty five. It's like I'm pretty sure he's doing someone like seven. That checks the only one. A couple like hey, I think Kane won it like a quite a few years. Yeah, and Deli alle maybe. Yeah, yeah, quarantee. Any he won Scottish young player the like six times. It's like, what is the point of that? Yeah, like it should be like footy where it's like if you've played over twenty games or something, you can't win it. Yeah, but I think in suffer takes them more time to develop because they just come up the bench for like their first and twenty five appearances. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, like Fod stuff. Yeah, Curtis rnsing. Yeah, so in terms of people who were close to the deepline playmaker, my back ups would probably be White Aldam, even though it's a bit more it's offensively minded, but I'll still slip him in there. Yeah, and then this guy, he was pretty average to Liverpool. He was just solid. Lucas Labor yeah, special. He probably went on to bigger and better things, while he's right now still playing at a high level for Latsio. But thank you. Just I think you got like people noticed him more when he left the bole, like his scrutiny was less than you just pay played a bit better, I think. Yeah, hundred percent like the other guys. You've got mill Nar. Yeah, he's pretty decent, nothing special, though he's more important just because of his versatility as opposed to his actual bility. Yeah, for sure, for being nos probably not played enough. Joe Allen had two good years, and Mr Chen last. You really didn't really do much. John Da, come on, who's it your camp spot? This was hard. This is heartbreaking, because how mat how? Because because everybody earlier the decade, because everybody knows Catania is my favorite player. Yeah, that's my favorite when he was at Liverpool, and it hurts for me not put him in, but I've put for me, no, in the number ten's salty he's bad in Germany. He's heard that all the way from I'm fuming now because have you put Cantinio in? Yeah, I just think continuo genuinely carried us for like two seasons, sir. So I feel like I couldn't really ignore it like that is a great player, but also in my formation. For me do doesn't really work because I smell of Limond fielder. Yeah, I'm going the current formation kind of. So, yeah, not like I really want to fin for me, no, put in more defensive work thing, Contino. Yeah, Oh, yeah, now that hurt to not put him in that. I think, like I looked at the his performances under club and I'm pretty sure for me, no, has the most appearances, the most assist, the most goal involvements. Yeah, a bunch of like the most chances created, like just a bunch of he's just been like the most consistent player under the club, and I think here's a level as like exactly mirrored the rise of the side. Yeah, he was one of the first players clock brought over. Yeah, he's homeland. Do you remember when we'll go? As I said, we'll go into more of how the team was made in in the next episode or two episodes time or whenever we're doing that episode. But drender, when we were like rumored to get texture error. And then, yeah, and then you get China. Yeah, that is the luckiest thing. I think texture like it's hard to say because he's gone to try it and so probably doesn't even train anymore. But like I reckon he would have been a flop. But yeah, no, that's no one's like that. To be fair, shacked are produced a few good players, but it's run. Yeah, I think you kindly. It's hid and miss, it's hitting this. Yeah. So, yeah, I've gone with Katino, or Philip Coochin, as he calls himself. Not sure how you getting cooching from there, stiff. Yeah, I don't know the exact years, but I'll say like twenty fifteen to two thousand and seventeen. He was our only player really. Yeah, like we just relied on him to create every goal and every attacking chance. If you look at the two thousand and sixteen seventeen season, yeah, thirteen goals, eight assists, no penalties. So that's like serious stuff. And he's not now. And that striker arguably not even an our now winger, even when he'd play on the wing, he was never like a mane or seller. He would always kind of drift in the middle. Yeah, and just kind of plays a bit like like sterling tries to play right now at yeah, that city tries to drift in and curl them me' she's not as good at it. Yeah, that's actually a good point. Yeah, it's can't he does play some we're all to like a Bernardo silver or city winger. Yeah, but yeah,...

...they kind of just float around that attacking line just behind the striker. Yeah, and yeah, so he put in absolute bits, even all the way back to two thousand and twelve thirteen. In twelve appearances he had three girls, six assists. Yeah, They Ripe Age of twenty. Actually remember watching his debut. I'm pretty sure got subed on and he had like his little curly hair. Yeah, who is this bloke? But he absolute star. Yeah, just I've watching in clay. Yeah, like every time he got the ball on the left hand side of the box, you were just waiting for the step over and get it out of your feet and then top right corner you're about to you're about to have a little chat to the money then. But about to smack the net and like he obliterated the stenchion and the field man the top right corner. Like that was an iconic shot for me. Like, yeah, when we were in near twelve, we used to have a lot of spares. So that's like forty five minute blocks where we don't have a class. Yeah, meant for study, but every now and then you need a bit of a mental health break. So we'd go to the oval. There was a sign on a tennis net will like a cage, kind of like a cricket net, almost like actual fans, and we would basically just do Katina's like a step over, kick it down in your right foot, Mo just try and curl it into the sign. So, yeah, that's a pretty iconic shot as I developing as a Liverpool Fan. Yeah, yeah, that's the main reason I picked him. He's he just put us on his back for two seasons there. Yeah, as you said, pretty shattering when you let him go. But could argue that that's the only reason why we sitting here today talking about how he won the Premier League. But yeah, kills me, but it's probably like the best decision with we may. I think the way Wen I guess we'll talk about that in the coming yeah. So, and then my number two up the attacking midfield a bit is Animal Na like. He's not in my team, he's just like my back up. Yeah, he he was another one who was surprised at how long he's been at looked for for. Yeah, obviously lots of injuries, but not just lots of bench time. Yeah, the in his first two seasons he was a pretty good yeah, inst men continue over. Yeah, I'll cap for me. No. Yeah, he's been just consistent. He's got double digits since he came to the club in every season plus, I think over five, six seven assists each season as well. He's only on eighth the season, but he'll get there. And Yeah, and I think there is sels player. Yeah, and I think he just like he's just the epicenter of the attack, the teeth, the way the team plays, everything just goes through room something. It's just hard to exclude him. I think he's just been central to like or the success with that. Yeah, and I think if so honor or manay moved to around Madrid type or somewhere with an actual genuine striker, I think you'll see their goal numbers decreased rapidly. Yeah, like, I think. Without for me, no dropping back and giving them space in behind, I don't think Selo Mane would be go anywhere close to the Gold Talis they're producing at the moment. Yeah, yeah, very selfless player. The amount of times he will like do a sweaty gold to one of the lads, stuff like that. Where and he never shoots, like yeah, when there's a pass on where cellars? An absolute greedy bitch. Yes, that man shoot if there's six options on. Yeah, he did one the other day where Minamino was legit right there, like Tom Yeah, I saw any like its gright into the Gefe you like outside of your foot. I thought he was going to be called into slot it. Yeah, you like everyone hates me to mean. I don't know why. They're racism finest. I don't know sis I hate some. When you get them in for such a low fee, it's like doesn't really matter if they do well or not. Yeah, seems like using money. Innocent bloke man. Yeah, let's get around. So then we'll go the wings first. We'll leave the strike for last. I think it's pretty self explanatory. Left wing Saudi Aman a right wing most all. I am I wrong? Yeah, yeah, Ye'll be wrong with those absolutely insane. I'll be honest. Think I actually think Sadio is better than most all. I'll say I think most cell was just a bit of a Ronaldo, almost a Christiana. That is like, yeah, he starts inflated just because the amount of shots he takes and stuff like that, but he's obviously a great player to put away the amount of chances he does. Yeah, where Mana, he's just not as much of the team players. For me, no, but he's still like sacrifices a lot to give others chances and stuff like...

...that, and I think he's just been so consistent. Saudi Romane, where sal will be the one to get the hat tricks and stuff, but I think Manas kind of always just there. Hey scored, especially this season, a lot more of the important goals. Yeah, there was a patch like where we're salad in the score for like maybe like seven game, like it was quite a long time. You didn't score and we won like two one hundred and twenty one knew, and every time it was mine who got the winner. Yeah, I remember spun header again. Yeah, that was header of the ball. Yeah, Saudiomna is one of the best headers of the ball in the premier league. May It's it's receding hairline. May can just guide that shit wherever he wants it just like locks onto the track of yeah, just slides off that that flick and had a genuinely headed backwards and just said, gain speed off his airline. So it's pretty hard to argue that sal was better in two thousand. seventeenred and eighteen like harder to deny it because he had thirty two goals where mine only had ten. But then this season Mane's had fifteen goals, seven assist. Sellers had seventeen goals, seven assist, but he's had three penalty kicks and, as we'll say before, I'm sure he's had like twice the amount of shots. So yeah, I think they might be very similar level now, if not. Sardair money is better, but sell it was probably better a couple years ago. Yeah, I think my niece got gotten a lot better the last two seasons, as we've got better. Yeah, I think in the Champions League as well, WHO's really important? What was that period? There's this little month where he scored in like every game for like six matches in a right car. Yeah, this was like, I think it was like end of December. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah, December. Wait, was it this year or this? Yeah, this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it included like Champions League got games as well, I think. And he won that penalty against Black Lester, I think when it was won one, like right at the end of the game. That once the game. He flicked that header in. I don't know, there was a few more, but he just clutched in that and that time and that really separated us from city and I think after that little period we will already clear out of the title. And then Sala started scoring against like cheap, cheap, cheap, get it. I get it in young yeah, he can't. Here's another Southampton Boys, AD amne. He came from the Salzburg before that. Like, yeah, Salsburg, a seriously underrated talent producer. Just quietly. Yeah, F if I was any team I'd just be looking to get those guys out and then sell. Obviously, famously played a couple years at Chelsea before going to the Syria and coming back. Arguably one of the best signings I've ever seen in world soccer. Yeah, I think anyone has had that impact off the ground running. But once again, we'll probably talk about that signing and other signings in the episodes to come. Yeah, so, yeah, just too high quality players, both I'd say, top three wingers in the world's like, and their respective sides left him right. Yeah, no one really came close, to be honest. Leftwing my backup. I've got sterling. Yeah, I had, I would have had Catania maybe on the left. I think it's from the best way there. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Katina was probably the second best left winger we've had, but since I got it in my guard side, just sort leave him out. Yes, Sterling, he was weird. He was like nothing special at Liverpool, but you could kind of see there was genuine raw talent. They're like you always had blistering paste, so good and yeah, so good at dribbling stuff like that, but he couldn't shoot any of that way. Yeah, hundred percent. It's fair to say he's gone to another level under pets. So, yeah, he's run. Hates him for leaving. Probably not the worst thing for both parties, I don't think. I think, apart from money and how they he's probably other winger. He's really up there with them. Yeah, and I think Mares as well, with the way he's playing, has been insane. Yeah, since it was. I think my Maras has more talent than any of these guys like to be. He's like Damian Lillard. You just like there's nothing on, just pass it to him. One of them doing you know, he can go past anyone in the world. Every understands their weight. It's like right, whence he got to move? When it's going to move? Bank go. Well, fair enough, playl yeah. So I've got stirling. He the first couple years of little for yoursn't special. Yeah, first team, but then like the season before he left he was starting to get pretty good and you knew he was something special. But everyone hates to I'll be honest, I don't. I like him. I think it's been I think it's been cool to see him how good he has gotten on the pet. Yeah, and then my right winger. Yeah,...

I don't get this whole shit of when people leave they just hate them like, unless to a rival team. I personally don't care. I'm I M respects, more like risen for him because for like the stuff he does outside of a ball like same with like Marcus Rushman back. It's hard not to respect that. Yeah, because him do that part about him snaking us like still a bit salty. But okay, I've never been one to like care that, to be honest. Like even in Rugular League, like my dadden brother will hate ex tigers players. I just don't care. Yeah, add right wing. There's not really many options really. I just picked her cout. He was pretty good actually. He's some of my earliest fool memories, Dani, and put a Hatrin against you know, maybe I don't know if I'm honest, like don't off the top of my head. But yeah, he's actually scored a lot of handy goals. He was a crafty player that similar to Andrew Robinson. He wasn't the most talented but just a work horse. Yeah, especially out at the Stewart Downing, absolute lessons of day. Didn't quite in quite get a mention in the final ratings, but yeah, so striker, there's only one man. There is only one man that they yeah, I can see it for me, but yeah, it's if you compare their records, they've played similar amount of games. I think maybe for me and is played that an extra season. Yeah, and swires just has like more goals a couple less assists. So it's pretty hard not to pick the great man. Yeah, obviously in that slip season he had thirty one goals, which is just insane. There you want goals, twelve assists. That's actually stupid. No penalties either, like when he seeing someone crack thirty without taking penalties. Yeah, that's that is and then the years before he had twenty three and then eleven and twenty nine, which is handy itself. So yeah, just a genuine freak. In his career he averages more than one goal or a sister game. Like. I know he's played for dominant teams, is like for Bathlana for six years, but that's still pretty crazy. Yeah, that is stupid. And I says a new one player of the season, two player of the months and then Golden Boot. So yeah, you just US dominated that season and he hit the would work nine times. I'm reading. Yep, cheese. It just rubbish. It finishing. Yeah, and he's absolutely star. It's fair to say he had a few troubles off well, they were kind of on field, but not to do with soccer. If you know what I mean? Yeah, at Liverpool with the barting stuff and the racial stuff, but in terms of his actual ability he's just insane soccer player. And I think, I don't know, I know you're a big fan of eleven Dlski, but those two are probably clearly the best strikers if you don't count and if you don't count run out a messy a strikes, they're probably the two standouts of this decade for sure, this little generation that we're going through. Yeah, I can't even think anyone close. I think like Ben's am on you, like those guys are just, I think, a step down. But Harry Kane another step down. I hate, I hate hurry Kane like probably in my least favorite player in the world. I fence. This was you probably said. Yeah, but not. He's actually clutching right now. He's actually clutching right now, Holand half a season he's yeah, Lord, yeah, but interesting about Suarez. I don't think I'll talk about this in the episode to come. So I've mentioned now he came from I ax, but before then it came from grower club called groaning, and Groningen also produced Virgil Van Dyke and they produced daily blend. They produced Ronald Kerman, they produced do sand tatch, like. I don't know what this club is. I know what there's someone on. They produced on here, Ian Robin like, and this team is never this club's never won a championship. So, like it's like they were good twenty years ago. Now they're just bad. Yeah, Philip costitch point LEA, sure I ain't good right now? Yeah, genuinely. Yes, so I don't know much about growning good, but they're doing something. So I'm going to get your scats out there, lads. It's a are doing bits. But yeah, that's pretty much it. Our teams were pretty similar. People differences, probably more than I was expecting with him, honest. So I guess I'll take that. And Yeah, so it next episode reet's coming...

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