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Episode 32 · 1 year ago

How did Liverpool win the Premier League? - Episode 31

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Rhett joins the podcast to run through Liverpool's recent history and determine what transfers, matches and decisions led to Liverpool winning the 2019/20 Premier League.

I'm cheese. He settle. Welcome back to the on the ball podcast. Today this is episode thirty one and we once again joined by Rhett, as you can see or here, or you can't hear him yet, but welcome. Thanks, fat how are you going? Yeah, pretty well. Thanks. How are you going, mate? I'm showing that on holidays. So just just cruising me to Reuni starting. Yeah, it sounds Nice. I haven't quite I haven't quite had that freedom yet. I've got another exam tonight, than Friday, the next Monday, but pretty close within a week, so no big deal really. Yeah, today we're doing another listful episode. You don't really rate, you don't really wait like fifteen years to see the club win a Premier League title and do one potty on them. Go on, go on, we gotta get a couple more. So today you'd have to be a Liverpool fan to listen. I feel like that would be a misconception. But we're just going to discuss about how this team was built, the this Premier League winning team, how the club built it and but also how, like young clop built his style play and stuff like that, and we're going to go through some of the key transfers in and out, some of the key fixtures and stuff like that would yeah, we're just going to basically see how this team involved from coming coming eight in the two thousand and twelve season to coming first in the nineteen twenty and two thousand and nineteen two thousand and twenty season. You can't, I feel like you can't say nineteen twenty, but you can say like twelve thirteen, because nineteen twenty season sounds like you actually talked about nineteen twenty right, two nineteen, two thousand and twenty to say, yeah, without further due. Well, have you been watching the soccer lately? I live kind of it's I've just watched one of tuned out a little backward to the replays in the morning. Yeah, I saw a Manchester United one or something. They'd be bran. I think she played very well. A lot of the gold. Yeah, they're actually looking pretty good. People coming on the saying they're reminding them of like Liverpool and like two thousand and seventeen, like just on the brink of on the edge of greatness. Yeah, well, I'm not copy that. Yeah, I don't know. They've got quite a few good key players. I guess, but because so it's just not he's just not that good. Yeah, he's not gonna taken into a Premier League title think, but they've got a good core of players. It's hard to argue that one. Yeah, all right, so I've been a little bit of a time on here and also we'll just go through some of the transfers, like on Wikipedia for like a summer transfer window or something like that. But, believe it or not, wait, when do you think the first put like, what year do you think the first player from this title winning team came into the came into the club? And do you think this squad started to build, as in clock bought them in or they just came that they came before club? It's a tough one, a tough one. And immediately I'm thinking like Henderson, yeah, it is hender. Yeah, you must have been like hey, like when Jarad was still playing. So Right, yeah, twenty or twelve, oh, he's Bank two thousand and eleven. Yeah, so the ninth of June, Two Thousand and eleven, Liverpool announced that they were buying at Jordan Henderson, a young we lad from Sunderland, for a fee of eighteen million pounds. which, looking back, that's a sizeable feed. Two Thousand and eleven for like a twenty one year old who'd only played a season of Premier League...

...football. That's pretty insane actually from little pool. But they've obviously seen the potential in them that I didn't. We discussed this last podcast, but I didn't write until about two thousand and sixteen. Yeah, didn't writings that. They obviously saw something. Obviously saw something that I did. So yeah, that's that's the when this side was first like first started to build. Ninth of June twenty eleven. So that's a pretty special day and live who calendars? But yeah, Jordan Henderson, WHO's now club legends, Club captain, General of the midfield, he was brought from Sunderland on that date. So that's a pretty special day and that's when this whole thing kind of got rolling. That's when the wheels started to slowly turn. Well, I guess you've got to build the thing first before the first plank of wolden start rolling to a reconductor, to a conductor arrived. Yeah, exactly. So eighteen million pounds, that's pretty sizeable. But Fair to say, well, I don't think they're going to sell them any time soon, but it'd be worth a bit more than that. Now it's kind of hard to work the same right now. It's kind of hard to compare transfer values from like two thousand and ten to now, because it's like even as I how he must be like thirty. Know. Yeah, at least I can like thirty two. Yeah, like you think inflation in like the real economy doesn't actually have that much of an effect in ten years, but in soccer the inflation like, yeah, it's pretty far been exponential way since two thousand and eleven now. Yeah, so like an eighteen million pound signing in two thousand and eleven is probably more like closer to like fifty now. Yeah, that's twenty one. You're back then. Would have been right. He Yeah. So then then there's a bit of a gap. Brendan Rodgers, he made a few signings that just didn't really work out, the likes of like Mumma do, Saco, just a few other randoms, and so we have to wait at Rickey, lamb it, just stuff like that. So we have to wait a little bit till we get our next tighter winning player. I'm only going to talk about the title winners before clop gets there, because I'm not going to go through every single player in liverpools history. But this takes us to July of two thousand and fourteen. So it's been quite a while. And after the two thousand fourteen World Cup we decided to raid Southampton, basically as we are now known for. We bought Lana and Dejan Laver and, with about three weeks in between them, from La Lana was for thirty one mill lover and was for twenty mill. So although we you could say we poach South handers players stuff, we paid our fair bloody price for them. I I think they would have been fair overs for both. Yeah, sure, I was. I'm ry thirty. Yeah, I know he was like that was probably his peak, honestly, when he was out Southampton. But yaikes. Yeah, that and as we were saying like that back in those days, even though it's only six years ago, that does still a lot more significant than thirty million years now. Yeah, but yeah, so Liverpool's probably similar to luck united and just all premier league teams. Basically, with there is a genuine tax that we have to pay. Yea Mos right, so man nited probably cop it worse than our us, because everyone knows man united will just spend as much as they possibly can. Well, Liverpool probably have a bit more of a frugal reputation, I'd say. I don't think we splash out the money as much. Yeah, but yeah, L Lana lot of room for combine fifty on build at the time risk investment, but you you'd say, looking back on it now, probably probably fair. La Lana hasn't offered too much. Yeah, but lavern's probably been more valuable than twenty million pounds. So I think it probably works out to be about right. I reckon. Yeah, do you think if they went back in time, then that's...

I'm in both of that amount of money. Well, it's pretty hard to ask that question because it's like obviously they were stepping stone into US getting to this point now. But yeah, I'd say so. Like maybe the L La you'd question. I don't know if that point he had had injuries yet, but if he had, you'd probably have to weigh in that more into your pricing of because obviously that's affected his time to live pool heavily. But I think love and for twenty billion. You'd take that a hundred percent because you've been pretty valuable play for last six or seven season. Well, I'm and just feels like someone who just just its the culture. Yeah, he seems like one of the I remember when you and it at the start he was like key to clop, so pressing and stuff like that. Man Just ran like that was on. Yeah, goold no longer. Yeah, and like even now he's just kind of limited to bench appearances. Even when he comes on for like the last thirty minutes of games, he's always still creating chances and stuff. So I wouldn't mind seeing him actually move somewhere, maybe to like I don't even know where, if Bournemouth stay up this this year, maybe to a boll month or something, because I still reckon he could have a pretty good impact on a side. Obviously he's going to struggle to get game time at Liverpool now and he's getting got quite old and now and then same back to Southampton actually, though. Yeah, it's Chine. Yeah, any of those teams, any of those teams really like a Brighton bomb as Southampton. I'd be interested to seeing go to any of them. And then same window we signed Devocaigie for ten million pounds from Lil and this is another one, probably similar to Henderson. At the time you're kind of like when you first saw him play, you're like, whoops, well, first of all we learn him out the first couple season, so we didn't really get to see him to like two thousand and sixteen. Yeah, it were kind of like what's like, what this guy doesn't look any good. But now, looking back, ten million to win the Champions League, absolutely broken. You're taking that any day the week. The prize only for the Champions League's like probably triple battle line. So yeah, bit of Cult Hero Live for, obviously for what he did in the Champions League, but realistically he's not been the greatest player. Like hasn't done apart from those couple goals. He hasn't done anything about for live moments. Yeah, but ten million pounds. He's still got more to give to the club. I think so. And those moments were priceless. So yeah, pretty fair deal. Next one is so we that's it for two thousand and fourteen. Now we move on to the two thousand and fifteen season. This is a pretty big transfer window. I think we bought in quite a few players, but we brought him millner on a free from Man City. Then we brought in Joe Gomez for three point five million pounds from Charlm athletic and then a few weeks later we bought and bobby. For me, no, no. So I actually thought, I think we said this. You're on the last episode we did about Liverpool, but I actually thought he was clops first signing, but in fact he was rot one of the Rodgers is last signings. Actually th way, I remember hearing about this thing just the other day, like it was like the one of the reasons why rodgers was out, went out is because he was having arguments with the like the sporting director at Little Pool, the guy who does on the transfer yeah, now, and I yet that this boarding director wanted to get into for me, no, no, and then rodgers wanted to get him bent OK and like they just end up getting both and Ben Ake a, sir. Yeah, so for me, no, joined for twenty nine million pounds from Hoffenheim. Our team actually has a serious Bundes league in for yeah, a lot of it was because the clock, but even before club we liked budness league transfer. But yeah, so they're pretty three pretty big signings. Milner on a free and he's played for about five seasons. That's a steal. Yeah, Gomez for three million pounds, that's an absolutely well, it's from like child and athletic. He was in like league one or something, so it's hard for them to command a big fee.

But I'm sure that was a lot of money. For sure, five million, but only, yeah, exactly. Probably paid a few people's annual salary and stuff like that. Yeah, but yeah, you'd say right now, even if we let Joe Gomers go or other know, got injured for the rest of his career or something, touch would. But three point five million pounds is probably already been justified because, and let alone, he's one of the more promising center backs in England. I don't see us and ever selling him, but I think he'd be back. Yeah, close to right what he's mad. He's probably like looking like a strong chance to play for a lot of cows, for England in the next ten years. He's overtaking stones, like yeah, stones is gone backwards anything but yeah, no, he's a crack and player. And then for me, no, for twenty nine mill come on, what do you think? That's good value? I think it's pretty good value. I don't think it's insane. Like I wouldn't say it's as much as a bargainer seller or mar they were, but, as we said on the last one, I think he's probably it's close to it. Like last pe seasons I've talked about him going to Rome, drid and stuff, Barcelona. For that I think we could have sign in for a hundred easy last one or two. Yeah, it's true and I'm pretty sure it seems insane, but like you think like a Christian Ericson, like they'll throw in like a hundred million plus hundred and twenty for him. So yeah, for me it's probably worth quite a lot. Yeah. So, yeah, that was that was basically what clop had to that was the out of the current squad. That was what clock came in with. Obviously there's a lot of other players around there, but he holds them out pretty quick. So that season Fourth of October. So at this point we had a few good season, well, just one good season really, where we came second? Swire scored thirty, storage scored twenty one. I just quietly we didn't mention storage on the last episode. I feel like that was pretty rude of us. Is it's pretty beast for like two or three years and there, yeah, one of the better strikes in the premier league. But yeah, so shouts a stage. So we had that season when we came second in two thousousand and thirteen and fourteen and then, apart from that rodgers time, it wasn't the greatest, I think. Yeah, two seventh, the sixth and he started the two thousand and fifteen sixteen season in horrible fashion. We drew it. There was a few wins sprinkled in here, but I'm not going to, you know, highlight the wins. That's polling. We drew with Arsenal, lost West Ham Manchester United, drew with Norwich and Everton and then we we'd beat Carlisle, but only on penalties, in the League Cup and we drew with Bordo in the Ufa Europa League. And so those combined were all too much for the board to handle, basically. And after a couple or okay seasons, that that second was probably Liverpool's best season in like ten years in the in the League or whatever. Yeah, sure, that's quite at Liverpool did suck Brendan Rodgers. He's gone on to do great things at Celtic and at the moment lest us. So I don't think he was a bad manager out all, and he's certainly not one of our worst, given that we had like Kenny Dowd Gleasian stuff. But Yeah, fair to say that was probably the most pivotal moment in building this team. Yeah, yeah, and Clive is the team basically, although we've got some cracking players and think many managers, if any, in the world, could have done what you and clopped it with this squad. If you can play, it's like Man City. On paper, Man City should be get winning the Premier League with twenty points to spare on Liverpool. Yeah, yet clubs turn this into one of the best, if not the best, team in the world right now. So clop was hired from dormant. I was reading some articles about it. Apparently we did some money ball thing, because so our owners are there also the owners of the Boston Red Sox. The they've called like the fenway sports group or something. Yeah, they are in the red sox. And have you watched the movie money? But yeah, it's go.

So that's obviously about a baseball team and something that's not really tall. I don't know if it's told in the movie. I can't remember, but it's basically after the whole story at the movie. So I doubt it would be. The Boston Red Sox came in for Billy Bean. WHO's Brad Pitt's car are up? Yeah, and they yeah, they that. So the FEMIWAY, lads. They froft the money bull system and so they actually brought it over to Liverpool as well. Some professor and Cambridge. He made something for Liverpool and apparently Liverpool used it in the hiring of you can clock. So I don't even know how you do it for a coach of him, honus, but I think I actually, it's just confused. Yeah, that's it doesn't make much chense, but like there's any articles on it, so I'll back them in it. Yeah, say, yeah, well, I get what they've been like. He's not some high profile, high name signing. Like there's obviously some research. That's like research that no one else is doing, that's gone into it, because you wouldn't pick clop as your number one choice for coach at Liverpool. But yeah, he's probably going down in history. Is Like I didn't live in the time of like Bob Baisley and Bill Shan Quy, but he's probably going in the time down as arguably live for the greatest manage ever. Yeah, and obviously there's more. It's more chapters in the book of Yogan Clop at Liverpool. But so we'll see how we go. But the way he's turned in terms of titles that those guys are four mentioned to have one more. But he turned the club into a club that was averaging a position of like sixth or seven in the early two thousand and ten to a team that won the Champions League and the Premier League in two seasons. So He's done for some pretty insane things. And he's not only like he just seems he just seems like a great bloke and he kind of cares about the players more than just football players in his team. Like he seems like he actually has built an elite culture at Liverpool and like everyone loves him and the way he's like captured the fans and stuff as well. It's just like it's so good to watch it like part of the spectacle, the way he like interact with the fans and celebrates and yeah, and he shows it's like he's just one. Yeah, and I think he I think he's changed management a bit. Like I think with like Jose Marinho and stuff, there's well, I don't even say there's an error, but until you can clop came along, a lot of managers were kind of just like businessman. They would rock up in a suit, they wouldn't acknowledge the fans. That go shake the other manager's hand and go back down the tunnel. But yogen KLOP and now, like you see Frank Lampard doing it, like at the end of every game they do a lap at the stadium, clapping the fans for coming out, like hugging every single one of the playoffs, where I never back and I never seen managers do that, like hug their players after wins and stuff like that. Yeah, then you just say and like yeah, Frank Lampard does that every game now, so maybe you'll be something. We see more management and it's just a different level of like man management. Yeah, and even like Zadan, they say he's the greatest van manager ever or whatever, but no one seems to last. More just like tempting. He'ss more just like containing egos, where like this is like full father figure shit. Yeah, I think I like is just completely different style, like he just commands respect. There's clock like obviously everyone respects him because of what he's what he's done, but I think that was a respecting because of life, how he treats them just, yeah, as you just respect a long dude, love God. So you can clops. Wait, do you have some like pivotal matches written? Yeah, so I will go at the first match, for like his first Premier League game was against, yeah, Spurs. It was a new knew draw away from home. So the seventeen October, two thousand and fifteen. I don't is this the first? It wasn't. The first game of season was after it was like it was after it's like ten games in my selling. Just cut it out. Start...

...of the starts. Yeah. So I think the pivotal thing about this match was that they ran like a total of like five cap kilometers more than they've run in any other game in in that season, so the previous ten games. So the team ran a combine like five or six came or and I think just from there, like you can immediately see after one game the change in style and I think especially for the first maybe maybe until not this season and last season. So after we lost the Champions League final. Like up until then the whole style was like based on that, like high in intensity, pressing like seven like the entire game, and I think like that was just a key moment. Like that was just where you could see his style immediately, the way he wanted to run the players and they demand that high intensity. So I think that was the first, first key moment. I sh'll get. Didn't take long, did it? It was kind of years. It's pretty instant impact in terms of not necessarily the success, but in terms of like that pressing nature. I forget that it has a German name. It's called like the game depress. Yeah, counterprow I think they call it, like a counterpressing yeah, gets pretty much just as soon as you lose a ball, you just just go for it. Yes, cutsick, cuts by getting that shit back. Yeah. So it was pretty evident straight away, even though the results probably didn't come to like Christmas. Yeah. Yeah, the the tactical impact was there straight away and you could kind of tell this had the potential of being something pretty well, a lot better than what we'd been used to in the past. Yeah, it's fair to say his first transfer window was a bit underwhelming. I don't think Liverpool was blessed with funds at this time. I think Brendan Rodgers, although, as we mentioned all those days before, you made him great signings, he'd also burnt quite a bit of money as well. Yeah, which I don't think helped him in his you know, he's fight against being sacked. Yeah, so clop first signing was Marco groach. He signed in for five point one million pounds from Red Star Belgrade. He's actually not about players day. He's still playing. He's not Liverpool quality super place like her top. He's starts pretty much every game for her to Burl and so it's obviously not a bad player. Maybe clock wasn't didn't quite understand the level they had to be at to be a to be a Liverpool player like grou which was probably someone who could have got a few starts for dormant and then, you know, gone on and they could have sold him for more money, as they do for every player dormant. Yeah, by the way, just big bit of background and clock he came from dormant. For any of those listening who don't know, and I think you won to budness League's or definitely onee and Richard Champsy find, I think. Yeah, Champions League final where they went down to buy, and so pretty impressive time at dormant when buying just dominate that league. Yeah, with limited by the way, speaking speaking of dormant, did you see united came out and said they're not willing to pay more than fifty year for Jen Sandoz out right doesn't like I think they just think the Mason Green movie is the best player to ever grass earth. But May Sancho is not going anywhere for less than a hundred, let alone can hundred fifty. And if they wait till next summer and I'll get one hundred and fifty four may he should arguably worth as much as marcus rush would. I'll be honest. I gotta play based on his statistical output. You can't argue with its got way anymore of a skill setting MIS rush would gone more yet. So I don't really know what united might is great like. But yeah, true. Yeah, so he's first signing was groodge. Probably not the greatest signing in terms of his Liverpool impact, but he's in our right player. Five millions not that much here. The loaned in Stephen Corker which I still remember was just a weird thing. Yeah, he signed in from keep your on a six month loan. Gorka is my main memory of him, with him just being subbed on playing strike for the last like two minutes. Yeah, they...

Usti always do that because he was a pretty good in the air. So that was very weird signing. But yeah, so he finished the fifteen, fifteen sixteen season. We came eight, but that was a lot down to rodgers has start. I think we actually came home pretty strong. I think we only lost two matches and drew two matches in the last four months of the season. We were runners up in the AFL Cup fourth round of the FA Cup. By the way, we actually suck in the cups. So I expected this season performance is there's this the two thousand and fifteen season? Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah, this is the same season where Liverpool played dortmand in the Europa League. Yeah, yeah, so I think this is also one of the key games. I had. I had down the second leg of that of that game. Was it? It was at Liverpool in front of the car. The first leg was on one and then I think we went we went three kneel down maybe or turn kneel down. That I don't recalled. I think it was turneel down. And then, yeah, so we came back into a new down to win forty three. I remember Tacco rebet the first one. Maybe WHO's One? Will three one down, and then Cassinia scored. Then the last two minutes, I think sacco and love run scored. Both scored had is. That's silly as that's some absolute foreshadowing for the last now it was one of the most pretty exact same thing happened for years later. Yeah, I think then like just like the heart and like the passion that everyone showing that game and the way that, yeah, like they were able to win an important knockout game back through both like the passion that he had and the fans. I think that was it showed a lot of what would come, for sure. Yeah. So in total for this seed, I'm going to talk a bit about transfer expenditure as a whole later on, but so for each of the next seasons I'm just going to say like what our transfer expenditure was. So we lost twenty one million pounds in terms of transfer expenditure. Then the next season, this is where clot really, you know, kind of started to put his impact on the side. Yeah, in the next transfer window, so while the summer in England but winter here, so like June, July, August of two thousand and sixteen, he signed Joel matteep on a free which, looking back, that's actually a great sign. Yeah, he's not been like some insane quality player for us, but he definitely stabilized that defense for two or three years there. And to get him on a three and it's like he's some old player which usually have to call one freeze carriers came in for four point seven. Probably the less said about that the better. That was probably some German bias from club. He was from clops, old club of mind, so maybe had someone in the background telling him that this kid's the greatest and didn't quite turn out to be. Now the next Ragna club and also came in for four point two. He was just a service will player, didn't play too much from Alexberg. Then the next two signings there's some pretty pivotal ones. Both were key players in the side. This year Sadie Omne came in, another player from Southampton. He came in for thirty million and Wine Aldam came in for twenty three million. So I don't know if you can find a better spent fifty three million in one football really that is insane value. Like study and Martine. If he was bought now, what is he like? Twenty eight or something. Still, and work he went. Still go for like a hundred and thirty meal. Yeah, so that is insane. Signing from Liverpool and then whine out Um four and twenty three and he was in like the top thirty players in the ballon door shortlist or something last year. So that just shows the caliber of play he is. So and I think to the sillier signings. Those two signings like can really showed...

...like what kind of plays he was after. He looked away the athletic, like two way running kind of plays immediately. And then yet yeah, I think you can see from my plays he signs in the next window as well. He always looks for these like athletic, I just passionate, two way running crazy. It shows in the place style as well. Yeah, yeah, it's like they were just so in such intelligent signings. Like why now them half of his Newcastle season. So he came from PSV to Newcastle for one season the Premier League. Half of that season he was stuck on the left wing. So just to identify that he was going to be an impressive like holding midfielder. That's pretty elite. And then sadiomne. Obviously it's Sady I mane. He's one of the best players in the Premier League right now and we got him for thirty meal. Yeah, so pretty stiff for Southampton there once again. Yeah, and then he really cleared out the club this window. He let go like Longtime Club servants. Will Not so long for Colo tour but Jose and Rique had been there for quite a while. He also sold skirtle four five point five, which is a bit of a changing of the guard, considering a skirtle be in this is two thousand and eight. He's so old. Jordan Ibe for fifteen meal. I know all these decisions aren't his. I think we had a transfer Committian. Now it's more just down to the supporting director, but I think that actual sellings that we have, like when we sell play to another side. I think that's actually what this one of these team's greatest strengths. Yeah, like to get value out of players. We find profit on some players. Yeah, to get value out of players like I haven't. That's yeah, it's pretty like selling I've for fifteen mill. We Sold Ben Take for twenty seven mill, even though he bought him for thirty two, to only make a five mill loss. And like inflation would have you know, thought you thought that would be affecting the price. A bit of five meal loss. That's pretty decent on a big signing. Yeah, definitely thinks. So he would let Mary I Bella telly go. He was horrendous. We let Mario but a telly go, let's be really didn't do too much, and then we also let Louis Alberto Go, who I think actually played that much. It is now actually, but he's actually your king now, right. Yeah, one of the best cred plays, and I'm just saying in the serie of it hard to foresee what was going to happen with his career, but good on him. Yeah, okay, so there was no there was no like January transfer window signings of note. So that season, do you have any games from that season you want to high I remember the first, the first game that season. We played arsenal. I think we won for new or one something like that. But I remember Sadiomne's first game and he scored an outrage just got on his left foot off the right wing. I remember that. Yeah, he just dribbled past like chambers and one other bloken came inside and school and I think like it immediately people were just like thinking about him as a different player from the one that was at Southampton because he never showed that kind of a billion and the way he like Rant to club and celebrated was like you could just see levels. The boys were up and about again around yeah, so you saw instant improvement in the club's performance. That season we came fourth in the Premier League. Didn't have any European action, but that would change in the following three seasons. We made the Sammy's of the EFL Cup. Didn't do much in the FA Cup as always. Something to note here, which is pretty impressive considering the fact that we signed two of our best players in this window in whine out of the Marne. We actually made a profit on transfers of sixteen million, six hundred sixty millions, because hundred and fifty...

...thousand pounds. So pretty pretty silly business. Savvy footy from clopos stiff for who was at Austin Villa or Chrystal Palace? The Bat Christian beat Ben Take a twenty seven meal. He came from us to villa. That's right. Yeah, it's a bit of a gag. Yeah, so that's pretty much all I've got for that season, unless you want to add anything else. I think the way we played, especially against the top sides, and that season, like ever since clop came in, the way we played against like like the top six in the in the Premier League, I think showed how one big one he could be. Any he was as good as any manager. It was just our consistency at that point and I think in the next two seasons when he changes, he adapts his style a little bit to have more possession, and that's when he elevates one more level and becomes a or our team becomes the best in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, like, as we were saying, you could see it straight away, but by this point you definitely could see the way that we wanted to play the game. Yeah, so next transfer window, rolling into the season of sixteen or seventeen eighteen, sorry, yeah, July two thousand and seventeen. Once again we made some insane signings. Muhammad Cellar for thirty seven million more. It's probably going down in Premier League history is one of the greatest signs of all time. Sure, I like dead sound and you can argue that came straight away. You are out put difference like value. It's got to be. He just came in straight away, just started banging goals. What do you get? Like thirty or something that first yeah, and then he followed it up the next year, I think, with twenty, twenty two or twenty five. Like it was just insane to get that kind of value nowadays for thirty seven million pounds is not really seeing very often and made it all the better that Chelsea let him slip through their fingers three or four seasons before. But it was just out of the blue because obviously premier league fans, like I said, seen seller at Chelsea and we were just like he's okay and nothing special. Yeah, and like he had good numbers in the Syria but nothing insane. And then he rolled into the premier league and he was just this absolute gold who just couldn't do anything but find the back of the net. So yeah, genuinely going down to history. Is One of the greatest signings, I think. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so that in that same window we signed Andy Robertson and Oxlade Chamber and Andy Robertson for eight million pounds is another one. That's that's the money Bo magic. That's another one. The probably, out of this whole squad, could go down as one of the best transfers just in terms of a value point. Now I reckon he'd be worth like seventy or something. Yeah, he's definitely, definitely one of the best left fullbacks in the in the world. Okay, and we also sign the OX thirty five mill. Thoughts on that. I think he's got some big some a couple of big goals, but in the premier league. But thirty five actually is. It is a lot, but he shows yeah, yeah, I think we have too many. It's probably it's probably appropriate. I think he's really work it was. He was probably worth thirty five. He's probably at this point in time. He's probably giving you thirty five worth. Yeah, it's just the fact that salar and Marne have just been stupid value that makes it look a bit worse, I think also conusly, yeah, he did his knee or and he was out for a few season. That kind of hurt. He's probably got more to give, I reckon. Yeah, like he's one of these players who always looks like the next year is going to be each year, but then he kind of gets injured. So hopefully he can stay on the park for a little bit. Yeah, which little buggets you we let go that time? Cheez, we really that much go? We let Lucas Laver go for five meal absolute steel from Latzio, really, but we'll take we also let Mama Duf Sacho go for twenty four mill. Yea Crystal Palace, crystal powers,...

...you said, fifty one mill and Christian bed take actually going on there between Marmadu Saka, who's like dodging powers, and they're turning down like ninety mill Faz our Har. There's some financial ship on. I don't want to say it, but I've got to say it. So yeah. And then moving on to the January window, this is where the whole team change. Basically, we brought in the big virgin, Virgil Van Dyke, seventy million pounds, another one for his Southampton have a we'd probably could argue be paid overs at the time for his actual market value, but he's shown that he's worth a lot more than that and he's been more valuable to that in the to Liverpool. And then that's same. A week later we thought surely we can't just be spending seventy meal like that. Are just moving on. We let Philip Continua go for a hundred and five million pounds. It could have eventually risen to a hundred and forty two, but he didn't really do anything for Bar Starside. Doubt it did. And Yeah, so look, if you're making a profit on Van Dyke in for Catino, looking back that's an absolute win for Liverpool. At the time there was a bit sad to see Cantina go and you thought maybe we'd paid over for Van Dyk, but looking back it's probably one of the greatest. Well, it wasn't a swap deal because obviously it was with two teams, but in terms of Liverpool trading out one player for and bring in another, it's probably the greatest maneuverable time. Yeah, he's like thirty five million hire man Alison for the money we got Forgatino. It's hard to argue. But yeah, Lege I was one of those had as moments of my life. Yeah, obviously it was very sad to see phil go, but now we have the world's best center back, and he was someone we like. We looked good until Van Dyke came in, but then when he came in, your like R A, we're actually a proper side. Yeah, like we don't get we don't concede goals to Newcastle. Yeah, like, we don't do that, because up until that point we've been known for, like, leaking goals and scoring goals. Yeah, but then, yeah, moving on will, like a defense was just we became known for having a rock solid defense as well as and at this point, like we minulate was getting a bit crap. Yeah, and Um, yeah, as you said, like lover and a mate, as, although they were great defenders, in some patches they were very error prone. So, yeah, this definitely took us to the next level. So, in terms of that season, we finished fourth in the Premier League. We were runners up in the Champions League, where we, you know, famously got smacked. But oh well. And transfer expenditure, we only lost a million pounds, which is pretty silly when looking back, we've built the core of a tighter, winning team and we've only lost a million pounds for it. So just once again shows people would probably argue that Liverpool, like, I guess someone from a small club, it would make sense if you just had little pool one because we're rich. But like, I think we are one of the more smarter business savvy teams when it comes to like city or united or Chelsea or assenal. I think we're pretty bloody good without deals. He said like at this point what we're down in the last three seasons we've had a seven million pound loss. Yeah, we've basically built the whole title winning first a lender and I think in this season Trent emerged from the academy. Yeah, he started playing. Yeah, and it immediately became an absolutely done legit straightaway after. I remember here is a fantasy prospect when he came in as it was just a beast. Yeah, he played nineteen games in...

...this season. Try to work out who played the other games. Are Right back. I think Joe Gomes played a bit of right back. Yeah, because, mate, they were all steppins deciding company is they got himself and the key, the key games are down that season where we're the ones against Man City. So the first the first game we played. I remember against man cities, mining got sent off and we lost five Neil it's so on. He kicked out a sea keepson in the face. That was a shocking game to watch. Yeah, it was. They made us look silly. I remember Signa came on and scored like an absolute wordy. Like you just that game was so weird, like we didn't even have the ball. I feel like, yeah, like we don't completely dominated then I think the way, I won't lie, after that game is kind of like we actually good or we sho did, because the way it looked was like we had an absolute mountain to climb to be able to get onto their level, because at that time, like they were the best team by far. But then the way we played against them in the second match. We one hundred and forty three. I think this is the game. Box say change when scored, and then one the yell of the fronts, all the front three score as well, and then the Champions League will beat them in both legs. Three knill and then too one away. So I think the way we just we went from losing five mials of beating them three times in four months was pretty elite. I think the way it just showed that we were going to be able to close that gap for sure. Yeah, and like we were runners up in the Champions League. We only came fourth in the Premier League, but I think that Champions League run showed that, like we can match with the best. It's we just need to build the consistency against the bad teams. Yeah, because we were we struggled a lot early under clock with because obviously we're a great team. So teams were just parked the bass. Yeah, and we kind of struggled right, you know, dissecting that. We can't just rely on Continuo just taking a strike from outside the box, which isn't always. You can't really rely on that all the time. Yeah, because he's only human. I think the emergence of by Trent that season, combined with building the strong defense, like the core of that defense, with event, I can Alyson, I think like completely changed the way we played, because against deep blocks now, yet I'd say like the key to the attacker is Andy Robinson and and Trent being able to stretch the defense and then finding passes, then combining that with a defense that just doesn't conceive like you're not very likely to lose against minnows with that kind of style, which I think he implemented at the end of this season after we lost in the Champions League. Yeah, you have any more games from that season, or is that it? I think those, thinking of the ones he as Man City, where the key ones for me, and this is when Man City was like. People were like great, that's have a ten year we've about to become the Bundesleaguer and from the city would general a sipable time. So yeah, and now we're on to the two thousand and eighteen nineteen season. At this point, after the run, after being runners up at the Champions League, only like two months prior of the season starting, people were starting to pencilst in his potential title winners, even though everyone loved city and knew how could they were. I have to say this is a bit of a DEBATA will transfer window. The last three have been insane in terms of value and limited spending, but this one this was a bit of just, you know, the big dogs flexing the coin of it. So we brought in four players, navigator for being your Shakira in Alison. So you look there, you go for being here and Alison. Yet they've added a lot to the team. Alison's probably the best keeper in the world. Yeah, definitely up there, maybe to staying or all black would argue with that. But in terms of distribution as well, he's really good. Yeah, for being your...

...definitely probably started a bit slow, especially that first half year until Christmas in two thousand and eighteen. But now that second half of last season and this season he's like really made a home in that midfield and where every plays arm here usually as a pretty good game basically, think source. But yeah, out of the fifty games that he played, his first fifty games, we wondred and forty four games or forty three games that he played in. Yeah, it's our rageous, but it's silly. Yeah, so if you look at that bundle, for are you taking that for a hundred and sixty mill? Like if you're going back and say that this is worth hundred and sixty mill I think alone the value that allison for being a give that take it. Like even if they just signed those two four hundred and eighty, I mean one hundred sixty, that still we were there. Right now. It's a lime ball for me. I think like it's tough. Yeah, cause, as you say, I think you would never want to give yeah, that's true. That is she's still lyly. Shakias go still not old. Yeah, Shakure, he's gone shack here. You can just fuck off to China or goals that first season. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, actually noted what's coming. Used to come off the bench and it's happen. Flexed. Yeah, he's not even now. He's not even the bench. Like go to bench play and we only played thirteen mill for him. Your car. So you'll pop that, Alison. Fifty five meal for Alison looked stupid, but then courtois and the whole keppa thing just happened and kind of people just forgot about how much we paid fowls and I think. But yeah, looking back, fifty five million Colt, yeah, for sure. And then for being your thirty nine mill. You'll take that everything. Yeah, as you said, Kater probably has more to give, but at the moment fifty two A. I'll be willing to admit at the moment, if cater offers nothing more to what that was shit signing. Yeah, but I hope that he offers more. I was so comed and signed for the boys. I was a yeah, the Jersey Young Boys, let's go, let's go, he's going to be a king, and he just hasn't. This is this is another bit of business. So I don't know what happened in this little window. I think maybe we were a bit confused on how to improve the side because it was already so good. We let em RECHA and go on a free, which I remember the time. This really pissed me off, as I was like, why don't we just let him go like six months earlier and we could have made like twenty ten meal off him. I think he really wanted to go as well. Yeah, there's a big fuff all over that. But yeah, he went to you vay, who would have been willing to pay quite a lot. So I think we missed down on some money there. But well, and we let left to win the tenancy as well. Yeah, unlucky, I lucky said. And then club and left. Doesn't matter. So lanky left. We sign him for nineteen million pounds. So that's actually pretty silly. Think not even it doesn't seem like he's played nineteen games for boom. Yeah, I think. I think he's only scored like one goals something silly. I'm pretty sure. I don't think he's really struggled to sucks. Yeah, so last year we had a we had a loss of a hundred and twenty three million. So in isolation that look shocking, but when you put contextualize it with the other four seasons around it, it doesn't look as bad. Yeah, it's in terms of on fit. Sorry, second became second, as everyone knows. Man City the Premier League, points records, I don't know. Yeah, and then we won the Champions League, famously, as everyone knows, getting over the Spurs. Yeah, and then the cups. We did. Shit is usually they tell me comes that would tell we thus all the way forward tanking the cups. It's another flute piece of from us as all school and Chelsea. It's my cut out for the cups. We have made a find them, we take up and, since you're right, I've got we. Yeah, we...

...haven't made one since two thousand and twelve. Yeah, pretty good. They're in the boys. Meanwhile, Man City is just there every year winning it. We don't know, one cares. It's actually a power move from full but yeah, yeah, so, anywhere were the important games in that one got anyone style wholet for sure everyone this straight, the one everyone's going to go. Yes, Vasa, the second leg against bar so. I come on the moment that I can just pictures turn just strolling away in the just, Oh my God, gets taken good close. It was one of the most like fucked games I've ever seen. The way like and I think we had seller and for MENA out. For me, I was definitely out and one of the other two front three were so a regi was stugning up top with Shikiri and Mana was a disgraceful Ford like. I don't even think money scored the board. Regy just pulled, just became world class in those two weeks. We well in that he's just a base in the big games. I have for Sul like he's it's a full girls. Are Three guys got some elite scoring record in the mercyside Derby as well. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean you just pulls up when the fans are up and about. It's just, let's always says, or our larts. So now he's probably one of the most overrated footballs on it. Yeah, well, you can't even score it like in the normal game, but when the lads are up and about under lights. He turns it on me. So big, so do you one of the greatest heads up players from Trent. Ever, like everyone's goes, yeah, PK was like napping and it was to stagans fall for for not looking or whatever. But like, I mean, come on, come on, keep them out. WHO's doing it? Didn't have to use this gone. WHO's going? Pivotal Corner in the last twenty minutes. Like who's gone? Oh Yeah, let's just take a good girl. Sent Mine in the on the ground and like he's it's got to regie that fast and like he hasn't happen. He just turned and was right at his feet. I come on, thought it was man isn't absolutely with the things? So you know, that's that's that year. Pretty, pretty pivotal year, let's be real. After the Eight Nineteen Seas and you knew there in the next five years there was going to be one premier league in there somewhere. Yeah, so the writing was on the wall for the lads. And then that sends us into this year. When we look at the transfers, we didn't really bring much in. We brought an a drown on a free, just another bit of elite business. He actually ended up doing, doing quite a lot for the boys actually, because Alice and I can't reboard. He's injury was, he was his calf or Achilles. He got he was doubt for like seven games maybe, and a durn just two months maybe. During played like thirteen matches, got himself a cheeky premier league medal for not much really, and then we signed people for the future, set van Denburg and Harvey Elliott, who didn't really I don't think I've played, maybe off the bench or something, but they didn't win a medal. And then to Kumi Minamino. Actually don't know. I don't think he wanted I don't think he'd played enough. You know I didn't. He didn't get his premier league mental. But seven million pounds that's pretty cheap. So it already looks like he's going to be worth it. Like, not saying he's the next for me or anything, but he doesn't really have to offer much to make seven million pounds worth it. That's real. He showed he was really good against us in the Champions League. Yeah, it was one of the main reason that by sign yeah, he looking easy's from Salzburg. Yeah, that was one of the produced the body's. Yeah, so that was in the January transfer window, for those who didn't know. And then in terms of transfer out, once again, just some silly business from the lards.

We left Dannying's go for eighteen million pounds. Like everyone says that Dannying's time was horrible at Liverpool, but you know, we turned good for both parties that we owed Southampton signing. We are. Yeah, it's true. He's been BAS is sh exactly like massoul regrets being kept. It's an underrated story of the Premier League this season. I think dannyings for surgeon. It's like he's back to being one of the top top strikers in the league. Not only did we real the title, but we want a relegation battle by just handing them Danny's. Yeah, well, we can't have a feeder club drop into the King Lads. Go on, that's not good business, man. Wait, we should fall just loan them players, like all our loans go to Southampton and then, yeah, they just give us like one play all their prospects. Pretty silly, we're. Yeah, so we made a like a ten million pound profit on Dannying. So anyone who's willing to come out and say that was a shocking signing come fight me. And then Dan we let Daniel Storage and Albert Tamrena go, which is a, you know, bit of a bit of an end of an ear are. Those lads played quite a pivotal part in the decade. who was up that? To be fair. startage was elite in his prime and marina had a couple handy seasons for the club. But like at the time of releasing them, you know they'll both not worth much at all. We sold can Raphael can match show for five million pounds. It's just some more silly business. We sold Ryan Kent Range just for seven million pounds, like actually was we just got a business. Yeah, he actually does BITs in the old firm which are the only Scottish Premier League matches I watch. And we release Nathanuel Clin. So all those lads, you've missed out on a premier league metal so stiff you were through. They were all there through the worst times and that's the silver lining was coming through these shit. Yeah, so Alpha from us. We won the Premier League in a year that we had a profit, a transfer profit of thirty eight million British pounds got at me. Ladder never come at and I can't really see why and the future that we need to spend too much money. So if you look over the last five seasons, you look at that season, go a hundred twenty three million pounds lost. That's a lot. But when you average out the five things, we've basically average like a fifteen million pound loss each year, which is nothing. Yeah, when, like I was doing some research and I google how much money Livingpool made last year, I think I don't know if it was a loan for TV revenue or all up, that meant like a hundred eighty million pounds or something. So that's got that written textibalizing how much they're making. To those who don't know how like wealthy these Premier League clubs are. So just spend fifteen million pounds a year. We're talking pocket the Penny pinches. Men. You Down Aloft, I see, that's good. I'm so pointed you having between the seats in your car. Yeah, just a SA frozen. We've won the premier league, we had the quarterfinals of the UFL Cup without playing anyone over the age of like twelve. And chamions league unfortunately got knocked out by a letter matrude. But well, I have to say I feel like although it's it was an anticlimb climactic win because the season was broken up. I feel like it definitely helped us because if we won the premier league like two weeks after getting knocked out by Athletica, I feel like people would have been bumming us a little bit. And then the fact that we got pumped by US and Villa Five Neil, I feel like that would have been a bit fresher in people's minds. But yeah, yeah, they can help. One the club World Cup, which is not the hardest thing to do for a premier league giant, but yeah, we'll take that. Champions of the world. So yeah, what do your match do you have any matches highlighted from the season? Like they've just all been well just there's not been any man's...

...hitting. Shelton absolutely thrusting. Everybody man said US Elsie, so right, I think. I one is the premier league. I think that game against Manchester United where we always went when we almost lost the game. Well, one kneel down the entire game and then the Lana Score. Yeah, equal as I think later that had we lost that game, I think. Yeah, I don't know them for sure, but they were quite a few in like October and November that we had a late winner. Yeah, I think that period was cere money. I don't know. I know, turn O, which games they were off by heart, like who the opposition were, but they were quite a few. Want, against Lester, yeah, where money won a penalty, and then there was one against Burlie where Robertson scored in the night but we wander down and then Robinson scored like the eighty five and I scued a had a like the ninety five. Yeah. Yeah, my nays a lot of games like that. The most clutch player on you those like that month, I reckon. Yeah, hence why that's pretty acture we've got. Basically, this is pretty silly like it. What are you looking forward to for Liverpool in the future? There's some sunny players down online still. Yeah, that I think. Defending the title is like so much harder and I think next year could be like one of the most exciting seasons you know a while. I think every every team, every like top sixteen is on xfast. Most sucks. First Tottenham, maybe not. Yeah, yeah, it's far as an arsenal such, but I'm talking, you know, it a Chelsea, Liverpool and men city or they're on the rise. So I think, yeah, it's going to be one of the most exciting seasons in a while. Hopefully it shouldn't get sept that's out there. It's going to be weird, like with the virus and stuff, how next season pans out. But, like, I hope they can get the fans back in and have a good title. Worse for sure. You know, I should be insane season. Yeah, I don't really know. Like what do we need to improve in the squad to yeah, what would be yours? LIKE DREAM SIGNS? Well then, that we don't need. They'll tell him. That's kind of if we let anyone go now, I don't want cool. Yeah, I don't even like I actually genuinely don't think there's anyone with bording matter. Like we need back, a little bit of like padding for the front line. Any car have hurts, come on last I would just go have hurts for his versatility. Yeah, like I think he could play an attacking midfield role, winger or strike Er. So that's basically half the position team covered. And our front three, although they're still great. None of them are in wheelchairs or anything yet, but they are eventually going to get a bit older. They're going to lose their pace, lose their effectiveness. So bringing someone like a hurts might, you know, right, a little bit, but that's imagine we bring in Santo cool piece off. I don't think. I don't think it even like like bringing someone like him. This is just it's a dream by like we should just be Larakin's and just roll with a fourth to h Wilson, our brewster uptop, and so the whole side. We should we drect. We should bring back Harry Wilson. I keep think the end of still. I would like to, but I don't. I just can't see him getty much game time really. So I hope his personal saying that he leaves. Yeah, be a show. He's shown a lot this year for boom. So, yeah, what about tag? You know talking about Tao coming. Yeah, I don't. I feel like he's just the law, like the opposite kind of player to hour. Yeah, like he's a great player, but I just don't think he fits really. Yeah, he's just not this stylistically it's just, yeah, I'm not saying he's like navigator, but like, as you've seen, navigator hasn't really fit that well. Like I think he would just be similar. Like...

...yeah, he would be like everyone knows he's a good player, but he just doesn't gel well with the boys. So, yeah, he's a king. He's good for me. So yeah, I'd say habits, or maybe N I was gonna say James Madison, but so, yeah, that's that's pretty much all we've got. Two, one, it's good. Again. That's all we've got for today. We just wanted to see, you know, basically explain to Nonliverpool fans mainly, but also for Liverpool fans to celebrate how this club was built, with this Premier League winning side was built it. And Yeah, hopefully you enjoyed listening to it. Got Any plans for the rest of the week, Rhett, I'm going on a bit of a road trip tomorrow, I think. Yeah, to like that, see what has many has to offer, I guess. Yeah, by the way, those listening, rhet lives in Tazi, so he can can't do it. He Wance, not not as much for what we have freedom here in Melbourne, I guess. But you know, doesn't have to worry too much about the old virus. Yeah, as a meaning. Okay, soon, three weeks, so pretty safe you. Yeah, all right. So thanks for joining me, mate, no worry and yeah, that I'm sure you'll be on again soon. I actually can't remember what's up next, but it'll be back doing USC review. Oh Yeah, you know we're doing a USC one review, but that's not for two weeks or something. Yeah, I can't. Actually I don't know what your next thing is, but anyway, well, we'll work it out off are. So thanks for listening. If you are. I don't know why I always leaved this to the end. I should do it at the start, but if you're listening on spotify or something, feel free to go over and check out the Youtube Channel, subscribe and, you know, just chuck a view on. If you're watching on Youtube, you can do the inverse, you can do the old inverse operation, you can minus the last time to divide, or if you haven't subscribe, subscribe. So yeah, cheers for joining me, rhet nor, and thanks for listening. Thanks.

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