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2021 NFL Fantasy Week 3 | Fantasy Football

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In a fantasy specific episode, the boys breakdown the world of NFL Fantasy heading into week 3. The lads go position by position and provide brilliant insight into who's stock is rising and who's is falling. 

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All right, welcome back to thehonorable podcast. Feels a bit weird in trowing this one because we have finishedit. I'll another episode, but we're back, this time for NFL fantasyin particular, joined by the usual suspects, pilch and Curtis, and what we'regoing to be doing today is going through the four main fantasy positions andchatting about who stock has risen in our eyes and who's has fallen. Beforewe get into that, though, will have a little bit of a fantasywrap up from the weekend. Pilch, how did your was going to saya team name, obviously can't. How is your bors on the weekend?Pretty Dog Shit until Monday night footy, where I had Aaron Jones and he'sput me from an average score to the second I score and I got thedub over the worst player in our lagage. So cacaplane. Yeah, you know. Yeah, fair enough. There was a period there where think itwas about like maybe the do they say three quarter time in end? Hell, well, actually confused. Yeah, they do. At the end ofthe third quarter in the first time slot. Your team was looking great and thenit all turned around. The Cincinnati boys got a few touchdowns your Cincinnatiwide receivers and then, yeah, your fortunes change from there on and everyonestarted doing decently. But yeah, you ended up getting a great score becauseof Aaron Jones gone massive. I think it was legit round three maybe lastyear, where where you went massive as well. So he loves these earlyseason projets. The same team as well joys. What has that like?Have has he risen in your rankings or are you going to look to useMiss Trade Bait this week? Both you...

...certainly risen, but I think he'llbe also good trade bait. Yeah, fair enough. I'll definitely be baitinghim out after what we saw last year, but I don't wanna get in yourhead, as you are better than me. Kurt. How did pornstar Jimmy Fair this weekend? Silly question, mate. Didn't break hundred. Lostmade some saucy trades from the week didn't pay off. Just just stn'twant to talk about it. It just it just hurts, man. It'sstill very early in the season, mate, and you've got a good team thathe's not performing at the moment. Mate. So I think you'll beright. I think everything will come together. We do only have ten people inour leagues, six of the make finals, so you've just got toget in there. I myself had a very dodgy victory, I'll be thefirst to admit, undeserved. Think I got about the third lowest score andI won by about twenty. So that's a there's it all. My opponentdoesn't have the finest team and tiers. Lineup selection wasn't great. I thinkyou actually had Hollywood Brown on the bench and I think if he started himhe would have got the DUB. But yeah, so I'll count my blessingsas last year those was the sort of games I would drop. I wouldplay a team who does really bad and they would be when I'd have myworst weeks. So thankfully I've avoided that one this year and I've gone toa no but yet not commitcing at all for me. Pretty much all myplayers this week or in the fall. So that's always good to see fromyour side. But yeah, the MSSRS Milkman were to and I but yetit's not going as smoothly as the record suggest. But yeah, there wassome outrageous trades last week. I'm not going to go through them all,but like genuinely out of probably the top thirty players in fantasy, probably halfthem top teams. Last week out our...

...league was very, very tolly andwe love to see it once again. I'll just say how many of eachposition we have. Let me go through them. But before we get intothe QB's we have two in our league, obviously superflex league, so we mightsay something that might not be relevant to one qb league's but just staywith us for the course. I'll start us off to get us into theroom. A thing. I've got my little cheat sheet here, so don'tmind me if I'm just looking down, but my first riser is Tom Brady. I have to say never being a fan of this man in fantasy becauseI love a jewel threader. I love someone our Gile then insane I do. I'd like cartle went and James Winste of. My team had him atnumber eleven before this week and he's had twenty red zone attempts in two gamesand last year he had eighty four red zone attempts for the whole season.So I was talking to you boys about it off air and I think thathuman errands are they have a they're making a deliberate ploy to go for thetouchdown season record. I think it's like fifty five or something. I thinkPeyton manning holds it and at this rate he's going to get there pretty comfortably. Obviously an extra game as well, and he's going at seventy five percentin the red zone, which is pretty outrageous. I think everyone else isbelow sixty. So yeah, Tom Brady is looking frightening right now. Obviouslythe quarterback for one of the best teams in the League and if they're notrushing in Tad's it's a pretty nasty fantasy recipe. So he's got to goup in my rankings. This one's an interesting one. I'm sort of unsureif I like my call because he I think he's completion percentage on the weekendwas about fifty percent and people are saying last year as a fluke. ButJosh Allen at the Buffalo Bills Item at number seven heading into the weekend andhe's probably going to go up for me, and that's purely because I think he'sup to like six red zone rushes for the year and that's that's threeon average and about twenty to thirty percent...

...of red zone rush has a TD, so almost locking in one rushing td a week, which, as wehave learned in Josh Owen's past, is absolutely op because he can throw itlike a lot of running qb's can't. And yes, I just think he'sa bit of a wet but I don't know people saying he's not playing thatwell. He has played two very good defenses. Well on paper, butyeah, we'll have to see on that one. QB follers, I haveto say obviously my main man, James Winston, didn't, I'll be honest, didn't buy into last week at all, but I still had him very highfrom preseason. I didn't adjust my rankings last week so I couldn't baithim away with his five touchdown performance because I had him higher than everyone else, which was a bit of a trap for me. I had him atnumber ten and yeah, look, he's just not not number ten, ishe? I think he's still going to have a few good games here orthere. He's got a good coach and all that stuff. But yeah,I think there's going to be quite a lot of stinkers in the mix,which is pretty annoying for me because I thought I'd stolen a qb one forin the draft and it looks like he could be way worthy. And thenfinally, Dark Prescott. I love this bloke. He was one number twoheading into the weekend. But yeah, unfortunately for porn star Jimmy and otherDak Prescott owners, the cowboys run game, look at looked absolutely phenomenal. Theironline looked incredible and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot morerunning from the cowboys with the Pollard and Elliott double headed monster. I lookedat the red zone ratio and it was about one to one passing too running. And Yeah, that's I still think it's going to be a very goodquarterback in fantasy. Definitely hub one, but I think number two might bea little bit of an overshot for Dak and his owners. But yes,Curtis, qb rises and falls rises.

Had Marie. The man just keepsgetting get up. He's probably the best qub in fantasy as we as wetalk right now. He was elite last year and it just seems to keepgetting better. And also had my man who loves to Sern my bench,Donald the man looks like he might be a consistent beast this year. Pointout the the Midde teams, which is not great, but it's not notbad at all. And to be honest, when you play fantasy and you havea qb to you would I personally love a consistent qb there that canjust pop point on the board for the folds. I had my man Dack, an absolute joke in performance, pulled out single figures for me, andthen also had my other key be in trevor. He's not what fantasy prosaid in being cub fifteen on PPR and he looks like he might be morelike a Qb in the bid die twenty s. So he sucks if butyeah, it's not that looking great for him at the moment. Yeah,I don't know. That's why I just don't like going rookies. I knowtheir value, but you never know what you're going to get till just yeah, rise is going to have to go Lamar Jackson and then Sam Donald aswell. Actually, do I think is a good qb? Absolutely not.But does he have McCaffrey and DJ more at his disposal? Yes, sothat's just going to stuft and pull. Take that at translate to points.So take that rise up yeah, fair enough. Who Your Falls? Man? I am a fall. I've got...

...just to a yes, he gotinjured, so it's be of a copy out, but, like, Ijust don't really write them at all. Thing, I said it last weekas well. Just think he stinks. Yeah, pretty harsh, but yeah, he's a lunch shit. And yes, I looking good for two hour atthe moment as a fantasy prospect. Donald's schedule upcoming is also pretty spicy, so he could be one to get your hands on into Qb Leagues.Don't think he's relevant in one QB leagues, but play on. Yeah, runright backs yet, yeah, right. Has He even cracked twenty it now? Oh yeah, but wait, only about. So He's been he'sbeen bought against some real good teams as okay, you know what he doesmake you know. We just passes a five meters to McCaffrey or more andthen they take it. And that's what you eating in fantasy. Still scoredtwelve sat sand sad squad start. Anyways, he's easy, he's under the rightboys, he's on the right yeah, we'll back you in there, runningbacks. I'll let piled start this one off right rises, two menhere Aaron Jones and Derrick Henry. I was actually way too low and Henrylast week and he's showed me up with forty seven. So He's obviously atop top three running back. And then Aaron Jones as well, and thenfallers. I've got Kamara just purely because what I said in the other episodethat the Saints Offense just stinks. Winston's barely chucked up over a hundred yardsin each of his first two games and as a running back you need agood offense to get points and Kamara is not one of those work horses thatpumps out thirty carries a game, so he needs some solid qub play toget him his points. Zeke as well,...

...just because he's not getting the workloadwe thought. And then Claire Ed Clyde Edwards alert just because he stinkslike tense, the worst running back of all time. You're stuck a dog. It's so right. That is so raw. Yeah, like I likehim, but come on, get good. That's that's how right. Well,it's pretty hard to tear pretty fast or when you're playing anything at themost talented for more climb. But yeah, I'm just struggling to accept that one. Really. I agree with your call about Kumara. I think he'sa bit of a spicy bylow though, because I'm reckon he's gonna get thatmany catches. But yeah, he's touchdown scoring threats. Is definitely a worry. Darrell Henderson loved this Bloke, did last year, did this year tradehim away before week one. I had him as my number sixteen. Butinterestingly the rands of actually run it more than they're throwing it in the redzone. The Red Zone carries his up at a about eighty percent. SoI think Michelle's volume will increase as he gets more used to the offense,but he's seeing sixty eight percent of snaps. I just think, yeah, Henderson'sbeast and I reckon he's definitely one of the better arvy twos you couldget going and I feel like he's not that well known, like it doesn'thave big name value or anything. So if you have people in your leaguewhould just casual fantasy players, I feel like you could rip them off.My fallers, Dowven Cook, this is probably an interesting one, but itemis my number three going into the weekend. By issue here is they don't seemto be as reliant on the run as they once were. They've gota new offensive coordinator and Kirk cousins is actually been playing really well. Soyeah, I'm worried he's not going to...

...get the volume that he has inprevious years. He's only had four red zone carry so far across the twoweeks. Game script has not suited them at all and I don't know ifit's going to continue to suit them because I don't think they have a greatteam. And he's still a running back one and I'm not even sure ifhe drops in my rankings. It's just I think a bit less of himafter this weekend. And then finally say que Berkeley. I still had hima number for but like, he's just not like at this point. Idon't think he's a navy one. It sucks to see his napcount with sixtyseven percent. When he was at his best it was up around eighty andninety. He did look better in week two the week one, but Ijust don't think he has the volume right now to be top five, eventop ten. So yeah, it's got to be a hard one because Idon't think anyone would be keen to trade with you if you own sequan.But yes, it's a tough one there, Curtis. I'm going to start withEKLA. The man returned to the receiving running back beast that he is. He at nine, nine of nine for sixty one yards on the weekendand if you can mix it up with that seventeen rushes he had in thefirst week, I think he had and he could actually be even better thanwhy had him on the board, which was six. So I think he'sa rise up, especially for this week. I believe they play the chiefs andthe best way to keep the chiefs offense under wraps is to keep themoff the field. So I think the run games could be huge this weekfor them. I've also got Elijah Mitchell as well in my rises. Theman did have a Stinger and a shoulder injury this week. was taken offbut did come back on that last last quarter. The reason I do himin the risers is a sermon is injured...

...on concussion protocol, out for theweek. We have hasty, who had an ankle injury suspective be out fora large portion of the season. So I don't know who they just signedfrom the practice wasn't from their practice squad. It was from Cincinnati's profet squad,but it seems like a large is certainly might be the main man atSan Frand if he can get up this week for the full just had thesingle man in Clyde. I think Clyde isn't a bad running back, likeKilchi saying, but I think if your fantasy manager owning Clyde, you gotto have your alarm bowls ringing because the simple fact is he's not getting thevolume and he if you compliment with the fumble he had and the poor yeah, it's per carry. Yeah, it's a significant concern. So yeah,if I have him, boys, I would be trying to offload him forthe best possible price I can get. Agree with those. Well, Iswear, like Eclo, he's catching skills are ridiculous, like some of thecatches here with down the weekend, like did the night as sign carry onJohnson, or was that another team? I saw that he got added,so it was some I'll get it out. It's a little fancy name from theincinatic angles practice squad. I can't can't say I know who it is, but yeah, carry on sign for someone and I remember thinking like allthat's interesting, but don't remember who it is, but we'll keep on rollinghere. The wide receiver stocks. I actually found this one really hard todo falls. There weren't too many that dropped in my rankings, to behonest, but they were definitely some rises I had. Mike Williams is thenumber one riser. I had him at number twenty eight. I've been tryingreally hard over the first two weeks to...

...get him into my team, butthe owner won't budge and fair enough. Last year he had eighty five targetsin fifteen matches. This year twenty two targets into so looks like his role. They using him a little bit differently. He his yards per catches down significantly. So last year he was sort of they combined him to pretty mucha big play player. When they needed a big yardage or they could seea potential bust in the coverage, they go to him, but now itlooks like he's just a genuine wide receiver to for them and he's going toget a lot more volume and which his catching skills. That's a pretty alethal combo. He's also only one of five players to have five or morered zone targets, so Herbert likes picking him off in the end zone.My other riser is Chris Godwin, Christopher of the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Wewere talking the other day about the fantasy value of the bucketeers players, andsome of them it's done ideal, like I'm not a big fan of Evansor a be just because they're inconsistent. But when it comes to some ofthe others, their offense is that good it's hard not to, you know, get lowered into their ability. Chris Godwin, nineteen targets across the twoweeks, only thirteen catches. You'd expect that to flatten out over the season. He won't be doing that catch rait for the rest of the year.Had five red zone targets. Yeah, I reckon. He's a top tenreceiver this year. The Way Brady's just throwing that many nuts around my fallows, as I mentioned, it was tough. So I've gone kind of mythical.Actually, first one that myth called brand and I you I decided tostick the faith last week. Didn't want to overreact to one weird performance.But yet it looks like they just hate him now he was one number sixteengoing into the season. He's had two targets in two games and his staffcounts actually still pretty decent. It's like mid S. Yeah, I justdon't know what's going on there. He's...

...not being targeted at all. Theythey're looking to prefer Trent surfield and all these other people and it's just strangefootage because he was sick last year, so he's obviously done something to pissoff the coaches. But yeah, if you're a fantasy owner, if Iyou pretty tough times. And then another one, and I know this becauseI have them in my own side, and that's Marquez colorway. A lotof half around him coming into the year. He was my number thirty coming tothe weekend, but six targets in two games. He's going to copthe number one quarterback every week till Thomas Returns and Winston's averaging like twenty oneattempts. So there's just not enough volume there for any states receiver at themoment. And yet it's just he's not really relevant and fantasy at the moment. Curtis wide receivers name I quite a few rises, to be fair.First one going to go with cup. I mean the man's been bowling andI don't see it stopping. At nine catches for hundred and sixty three yardsto Tad's bold down in the first week, bold out against Zech Week and,as I just said, I see continuing. was had locked it.I traded him before the season even started for Julio, one of the dumbestthings I've done, because lock it has been absolutely bowling. He had eightcatches hundred seventy eight yards for a TD as well. And Yeah, serious, serious upside doing, I think, and he's rocking me up my boardin terms of fantasy rankings. Was had williams, as you said before.Cork Man's been bolling and yeah, I'd love to get him as well,to be fair. And another one, second year man in Pittman. Theman had eight catches for a hundred and twenty three yards and I think he'sstarting a show off that talent that he...

...definitely has and I think he couldbe a bit of a steel if someone has him seen on his bench,on their bench. So and then for the falls, I'd a bet whoI had in the rises last week two point seven points. Had One catchfrom three targets. In seventeen yards. Just massive concern with volume. But, as I said last week, he still like does look like the ABof old. I just that's just too many heads to feed in that offenseand, to be fair, even even inclusive of Godwin and ground, Ithink you got to be pretty careful with all of them, just because oneweek they could have massive answer targets and put up twenty class and the nextweek you can be expecting a sub five. So yeah, just real careful withall of those Tampa players. Yes, shout out to a be one ofthese soul reasons I got up in fantasy this week. So sheers,brother. I'll tell you what, though, lockets on Fraud Watch. I don'tknow if anyone saw this, but they're little face Hail Mary at theend is one of the most disgusting start padding moves I've ever seen. Obviouslythe titans set up in the end zone and they were just like that.We're getting like at a cheeky forty yards here and a catch, no chanceof scoring. And Yeah, Wilson and lock it are on full watch.Pilch, who we your wide receivers made my rose. I was caught inSutton hundred or first game without judy, hundred, fifty yards and can't seewhy the man's not going to be a wr one. Whilst dudies out.We all know how talented is and he's showed it. And then my fuller, same with Kurt Ab think everyone just jump the gun and yeah, it'sjust going to be a different week whichever wide receiver balls out in that offense. So I would be avoiding it.

But Chris Godwin, who is theonly consistent player in there. Yeah, that's that's why I'm glad I didn'ttinker my rankings after week one, because shit like that. It took youTickli and nuts and they choke her. But by the way, Kurtish,you ended up getting CD lamb for Julio. So did you basically went lock itto lamb. So I didn't even know if that's like a loss now, but I went. I went Julio and then I went. Yeah,that you ended up. WIO got first week. Yeah, for one way. Yeah, relax, for a relax, you got city. Yeah, weevery week, mat is, when you're only too mate, mate,mate, maybe fine. Rather you going to be fine. You actually legitworried about the real NFL I and two starts, but it just doesn't haveflight. A fantasy. You're going to be right about four blokes of inour league don't even know what NFL is. You'll be good rather all right,it's tight end. It's time. was tough because no one really caresabout the tight ends. My right actually go to curtis. First Riser gotto be Hawkinson. The man is bowling and the entirety of that line's offensegoes through that man. So he will be continuing to bowl and he mightbe the most consistent tight end in the league at the moment and going intothe future, seems like he might be a consistent twenty, given that entireoffense is on his back and the fall is going to be held. BeFor me. pilled said last week that he thought he could be a seriousor I don't know if he said in the party, but definitely said offoff the potty that he thought he'd be might be a tight end ten thistop ten this year and the man had one fay, one, one catchfuleight yeard say, if you have him,...

...alarm bells ringing, mate, I'mnot off he'd be. I'm not off him. I'm not giving allTopton that I recall. It's against the cultsmate. This sick, but youcould be a worry. It will is worried but, like, I'm notlosing faith just yet, but it is for all watch. How did coldpits go this week? You're happy with that pick man taught La. Man'sin the right. Nah, I thought it was like high in the targetsacross the two weeks. I was well, he's targets are going up. Mate, he's he he's a taking over. I think it's what Hurst so mate, he's right. He didn't be a baller, making him tight endfor and don't want to hear anything else about it. Chief push hot gamescripts. Unreal for him, to be fair, but exactly exact that.That Ryan has to throw it to the people with the same Jersey as him, not the others did. Did any you watch marked up from week one, because if so, I don't know why you saying Howk just reminded methe new lions coach, absolutely cook. Like what Amanda, what a manman. I rady's hype up ability, but like, I don't know howhe walks away from a game with a voice. He's scary, but yes, anyway, my tight ends. I know you boys don't like him,by my Ras is the GRONK for Red Zone targets here was my number tengoing into the week. He had fourteen redso targets all of last year andhe's already had four, as I've mentioned the whole podcast. I think Brady'sgone for that record blatantly. and WHO's his favorite red zone man? It'syour boy kronk. He's also had thirteen targets, which is pretty handy justacross the whole ground. Don't get fooled by his average, though, becausehe's currently catching at ninety two percent, which is unsustainable. His career averageis about sixty five, so keep that...

...in mind. But I just thinkhe's tight end prowess and I know you don't like a tight end who relieson a touchdown to do well, but he's getting enough targets and I thinkhe's touchdowns are going to be that common. I don't even think it's a badplay if you don't have one of the big boys. Unfortunately, withthe grank though, he's fantasy value sort of higher because he's a well knownname, especially now league. That's how some things work. So yeah,it might be tough to get in, but definitely think he's undervalued, whileI undervalued him at ten. And then my fall is my boy George Kid'lllast week I just put it down to bit of Rust and all that.This week whole Sam friend offense, barring Debo, looked like absolute nuts ack. He was my number two this week. He's definitely going below wall up,potentially below others. He's had nine targets in two weeks. I don'tthink he's going to be bad, like I still think he's a solid chanceof being top three, but I think the gap between him and the restis going to be a lot lower this year. I think is going tobe cut. He's going to come back to the pack and Kelsey and wallor sort of going to be on their own. He's had no red zonetargets yet and yeah, it's just not fun. Not Fun at the momentfor a George Kid or owner. The only positive is I don't think they'rereliance on Devo. Samuel is feet like. I don't think it's sustainable. He'shad like twenty targets in the next most is actually kiddled with nine.So I think eventually there's got to be someone else who stands out from thecrowd. Hopefully it's kid'll, could be I, you could be anyone,but yeah, right now seeing friend could be Mitchell, as he is runningback rise of this week. But I won't laugh because it's legit. Fairs. Did see hasty was out for this weekend. Sermon, yes, sermontcan custom. Yeah, like plate three or something's a man. The mangets one touch and he kode. Yeah,...

...that's the only reason Mitchell came backbecause there was no one left. They he was like forced to playand he was still injured. But yeah, anyway that I feel bad for Samfriend the injury like right now is cooked, but hopefully kid'll starts liftinghis game. PILCH tight ends my friend. Yeah, I must say it's actuallykind of getting a bit strange how often sand friend running backs get injured. It's about ten injuries to their running back to season. But my tea'srise are definitely Goronkowski shoes. Riser for me just isn't that. He's justgoaded and he's proved everyone, the entire community wrong, two years in arow. And then my fall out is actually Mark Andrews, two stinkers ina row. was drafted very high and he's not living up to it.So certainly for he was my fall last week. Happy with that one.Would how do you go this week? Not, like did he like toswell and I've versed him sor he scored like six or something. Yeah,yeah, it, yeah, you might school like a yeah, yea,but yeah, it wasn't great from him at all. I think they're extraweapons breaking out. Not Going to help his calls at all. But yes, I am worried about the kittle, the kiddle master. Sucks to suckboys. Thinking about yes, and not crack a hundred two weeks in arow make my team. I can laugh at that, even though I hada shocking week just before we finish, just a random thought because you mentionedthis. Pilch, thoughts on Jeff Wilson's fantasy value right now. Does hehave any wends? He back? He's predicted back like around week seven,week a, week nine, somewhere around there. Seems just not not relevant. Yeah, fair enough. I like.

It's an interesting one because they aredown to the myths in the roster, like so he could come back andlegit be the number one like Curtis Thought Mitchell was going to be,but he never was going to be. But you know he was last week. It's seventeen carries for forty jumping hearts. Yeah, that's whose most. Twopoint five. Most of got injured. Seven wasn't active. You know,they had no other choice made. But you know who looked better onthe weekend? Hasty his yards for carry the rust Mitchell, but anyway,all right, bad at everything. Yeah, probably carries mate now. He hadlike six of the night. Yeah, but he's out for a while.He went at like seven, seven yards per carry. But yeah,he is probably out for a while anyway. That's been enough trouble for today.We've done two NFL episodes. Hope you've enjoyed the fantasy one in particularlyif you haven't watched the in real life NFL. It sounds so we'd sayin real life NFL, but don't know how it's to say. Go checkthat one out. Thanks for joining me. Boys, almost said thanks for boiningme. Joys. Shout out to us for surviving earthquake and we'll catchnext week. Good luck to pall star, Jimmy and the know comment other takepodcast. See Boys,.

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