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AFL Round 8 Preview | Australian Rules Football - Episode 128

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Rowey and Pilch join Mish online to discuss all things AFL. The boys encounter some technical difficulties but fight their way through the jampacked list of topics analysed throughout the episode. The boys do more redrafting, pick more winners and losers, continue their supercoach updates, compare and contrast teams with the longest finals droughts, rank the premiership favourites and make predicitons for Round 9. 

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Hey guys, welcome back to the on the board podcast. Just one of the quick word as I'm editing the POTTY. There's with some serious lag in this episode, so please, if there's a few second breaks in between answers and stuff, just understand that that's what it is and hopefully we'll sort it out for the next time, but until then I'll throw it back to Haym. You should enjoy the episode. Chit. Welcome back to the on the ball podcast. Definitely didn't just do that intro without pressing record, but it's episode hundred and Twenty Eight, pretty sure. Back again for another AFL episode, and we have the two usuals back again, Pete Adams and Angus Rowe welcome Peter. Good to have you on the just just no, thanks. Right, you've good to be on as usual. Yeah, for context, piaches entered the chat room as Peter Adams, but yeah, it is peech and then Roy. How are you mate? I'm ecstatic. Ma, I'm extatic. After the weekend, I'll I'm going to change my a to Zack Jones on this chat now actually. So yeah, I'm ready to go. Yeah, even though I'm quite the opposite. Well, it was good when for the saying is, but we'll get into that in a little bit of pleasure session with you. On the weekend, row you just have to point that out. Some of on the balls finds were cut and shapes getting loose. Can to sess with you soon, pilchously. The sad day medus is off the field. Yeah, it was pretty on and off the field. Not Not quite on the field, but all right. Starting with the other winners and losers is actually like I can't lie. From the run down at this podcast. I reckon this is going to be a contender for the goat potty. But we'll see how it goes. Or are starting with the winners, Rowy, going to give us your first winner of around seven? Well, I don't know where to start. I mean, if we look at all the games from the weekend, basically every ten one. You know how to point to prove, how a statement to make. There's really only the winds from Melbourne and West Coast that you can't that. You know, I'm really sort of defining. I Guess Richmond was a big one on the Friday night. You know, they were just lost. Dusty that had players had to step up like Shap Bolton and all that, and they certainly did. That was a huge victory against the dogs who had an obviously lost a game yet. So definitely have to give on to Richmond. Unfortunately, I was at the game backing for the dogs, but just switched after half time. Just showed how mentally tougher Richmond were and just kill them in the middle of the ground, which doesn't usually happen after halftime. So I'll definitely name Richmond. Is My first winner. Yeah, for me Richmond was the biggest winner. As you mentioned, there were. Yeah, there's five or six. There's five or six guys who had good wins. Maybe pielt would touch on them. But yeah, Richmond just I'll be honest, I don't know how we keep riding them off. We are all you know, we all do it. But yeah, they're just time and time again proved they're one of the best teams of all time. Their depth is ridiculous and for in my opinion, they still have to be premiership favorites by a long stretch. But will get into that and in a little bit, peelch any other winners you want to specifically shout out? Indeed, I'll skip the lines because I really want to talk about them, but gws have been flying under the radar recently and they've they flew over to Adelaide and absolutely dispatched the crows, which I was happy to see as well. But yeah, I think they're actually starting to click and honestly like smoki's to grab that eight spot. I reckon with our Whitfield and a couple others coming back as well. Yeah, I have to say that eight spots very interesting. There's about four or five contenders for it. Just shout outs to me tips GWS and Gold Coast. So that was pretty, pretty impressive mate. But yeah, they were definitely two of the biggest, bigger winners, alongside Richmond. Shout out too. Sat Killed Up. They had to win it, basically, but they got the job done, and convincently. So well done to them. And Yeah, Brisbane deserve a shout out, but to be honest, I think it was more a Port Adelaide loser sort of type the situation and cart and got the job done. Similar to Saint Kildo. They had to win it but they got got it done. Loss Rowe. Any any disappointments from the weekend? Yeah, well, I made the pies first of all, you know, be...

...losing to Gold Coast at the Gee. It is something that most teams shouldn't be doing, considering the Gold Coast track record, especially in Victoria. And the pies just we touched them last week came which about how to sort of on the down hill slope and I that lost the weekend. It's just accelerated that. So they're looking in serious trouble. Now know the others starting to talk about, you know, whether they should ship off to go in all that. So for that, for those talks to be happening in seven weeks into the season obviously isn't a good sign for them. I'll let I don't know if I should touch on port. I might let Pilch to that. But Um, the dogs as well, to lose to the Tigers. You know, they're thing good going in, is pretty heavy favorites and unfortunately just sort of lost it after halftime. It's just is this the games completely switch, especially in the middle of the ground. You after halftime the dogs just sort of their midfield just sort of lack confidence and just remember shape alden just running through them every time and picked up the three votes probably. So I guess you could say the immensely week in that second half of that's least how I saw it, and the Hawks, I guess, were a bit of a minor loss on the obviously suffered a major loss, but there are minor loss in terms of how we do this segment. They were sort of running a half VfL team, but at the same time they played pretty shit be this I was watching from the wing on level three and just their structure and decision making, especially going forwards, just no good. So yeah, I'll I'm interested to see if coach touches on port, but probably I'm guilty of avoiding sea killer in previous week, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, before we let it pilch touch on Port Adelaide. I'll have to say we can't go lightly on them here because we've rented West Coast Multiple Times for being home track, flat track, Blues, whatever you want to call it, and it's twice this year. Whether been their pants of input down away from home. So I don't know how you saw it. The game pilled. I didn't see it as I was six sons. Sounds besides deep at this point. But what did you make in the aim? I know there's the injuries. But is it very concerning if you a support die hard? Well, Travis spoke is thirty three or thirty four and he's not going to be around forever up and if that's the display we're going to dish out without him, then I'm quite worried for the future. But yeah, as you said, the away the away record is worrying as well. But Brisbane for the last three years of smashed us every single time at the GABBA. So I think I think they just match up really well against us. So we'll bounce back next week against the crows and then hopefully the dogs the following week. U. Yeah, that one. Yeah, that lady, isn't it? Yeah, it is, so we'll probably win that one. But yeah, it's definitely something to look out for when we play away. It's a bit concerning. Yeah, and my the other loss I want to they were the two main loses, pull and the dogs for me. The other one I want to touch on is free. Oh, I'll be honest, I didn't buy into it. They I put West Coast pretty much as much, short better the week, even though people were hyping free or up. But yeah, they just need a lift really there at the stage and there rebuild. Now we're having eleven losses in a row to west coast, like it's just not good enough. And three of the last five losses to west coast have been by fifty eight points or more. So they're not just losing to them, they're getting pumped. And this is an eagles team that's probably is injured as any other team in the camp. So yeah, I was really disappointing to see from fremantle. We called it roll you, but yeah, still we did, from a team that thinks there are a chance for the eighth position. But yeah, or I'm not going to do this predicted top eight this week. I did it last week, but I think MORMA's day the same anyway. But rowy John to let us know what your new predicted top eight is or if there's been any changes. Well, as I've said in previous weeks, I love the fact that this segment is so hard. I think. I think six or seven of the teams are pretty comfortable say they're going to finish top eight. But in terms of the order, I've got no clue. I'll just real of from one, two, four, I've I've I've got the dogs and ports one and two. I'm sort of interchanging the week by week, but at the moment I'm actually going to keep the dogs in at one, I think. I think they're sort of, I don't know, like as we saw on the weekend, port, you know, may have a bit of a trouble problem. Whether it was just that week against Brisbane is obviously a big possibility, but I still like the dogs chances to actually snatch that number one spot, especially they because they play marble so well and that's where they're going to play most of their games. Going...

...to have the day's jumping into three and the Tigers slipping slowly down to fourth. I know they won on the weekend, but they're just that team that you know, will probably cough up a few wins in the season, but then I'll turn it on a September. So I've got them to finishing no longer and fourth, but in fourth ofthe less. Still not buying into the cats. Sort of losing streak and the way they're losing games are going to have them in at a five. I'd seen that extra avenue to go with Jeremy Carrod just surely it can't fail them. They still got a few players to come back from injury, so fingers cross that they finish up there. The Eagles in its six, just because of how they're traveling, especially he drew par and they are they just, you know, be West coat, so beat free, Oh, by about ten goals and their whole team was what loses if their whole forty five players wrong. One lakes. They only had about thirty available. And then the lines and it's seven. I'm going to say they'll be too good to miss out, I think. And this eight spot is a bit of a toss the claim. I'd get to go with the swans. At the moment. I think they'll just hold on, but we'll wait and see. Honorable Mentions the GDS, the blues and the saints. So hopefully colore it out that last spot. Yeah, that's pretty much the exact same as I had last week. Actually, I think I'm pretty confident those eighteens will make it, but that will see what killed thinks. What do you think made you have any differences? Any other teams the road didn't mention in your a. Who did you have it eight again? Rolly Sydney, either swamp. Yeah, yeah, I've got the exact same eight, but quite a different order. I've finally taken port out of first. It's had them there the entire time, but after the weekends to drop him down. So I've got Melbourne first now undefeated, and I think that their fixtar is actually the easiest out of all these big teams as well, so I think they'll hang on to first. bulldog, second, port, third, Richmond, fourth, Brisbane, fifth, west coast, six, tolong, seventh, Sydney. Eight. Yeah, so there's some serious lag going on. Yeah, yeah, there are technical difficulties here, but we'll just have to make do. Yeah, I think I listened to a podcast today. They said they think the eight is a lot. Basically they don't think any of the teams outside it can jump up, and I tend to agree with them. Or are moving on to moving on swiftly, as we do have a lot to cover this week. Players of the week. Boys, I haven't done this this week, so I'll leave it up to you too, or I don't know if you've done yourselves, but with something worse, if your players at the weekend, your rookie of the week. Who Have you got here? honorible mentions? A little his first quickly shape alton was terrific for tigs, Brendon Elison took Miller obviously got the suns over the line. Tintarranto was hugely giants human cluggage and been Cunnington as well. But I'm going to give the third best to Sammy Wols. She just continues to tear it up. It's scary to think that he's actually our age and makes us, makes me feel like I'm solute failure at life. But Finish with thirty three touches, six marks and five tackles and an awesome goal. And he was just everywhere for the blues. And I know that once I bring him into my super coach team is either going to get tired or tangs. But for the time being he's going to sit in there number three, and I it's scary to say, but I actually would not mind his browno chances at this point. He's obviously a bit behind a few blokes, but he's that good to he's I think we know he's going to win what some points career is leasing to be up there for a lot of years, so maybe worth it at least a cheeky bonus, but I don't know about you boys, but a number two, Tim Kelly, who obviously took away the best on ground at the Darby Forty two touches and night tackles. Enough, they are said. They're really just proving to all the doubt it's at that trade for West Coast was really beneficial, giving the amount they gave up. But Boys, Zach Jones is the player of the round. I mean, how good is that? I mean it was playing a VfL team, a VfL midfield, but I tell you what, thirty seven touches, eight marks, six tackles, two goals of one big bold head running through the midfield. He was absolutely unbelievable. Finally, as we talked about like last week game, we should all undoubt of the saints, Coulton and Collingwood, know about these players that are like sort of be grade plays, that aren't taking the next step, and that's what's stopping at least St Kilda from taking that next step. Will Zac Jones just said, screw you go, I'm going to just show you. I'm going to completely show you up here and just turned it on. So that's exactly what Stevan's been wanting. The same with Brad...

...he'll. He was awesome, but because Zat Jones finally shows bursting out of the pack qualities and that match and just a massive thirty seven touches is absolutely huge. And if you could do that again this weekend, and I'll tell you what, I'm going to be a very excited man, even if we cop a loss, just to see Jack Steel getting a better help and I bed feels awesome. And I've Love Zack Jones and what he could bring to this lineup, given his speed and toughness. So he's awesome to see him get off to a flyer and very glad that he's one. nuther one player of the week, my rookie of the week as well. I'M gonna have to get back to you on that one, but I'll let pill run through his players of the week. Yeah, actually had a mind blank. Yeah, I'll get the WHO got the rising start? Do you remember Jax Luke Jackson? Yeah, so might just have to give it to him, but de Fault, I'm going to go. Yeah, I've gone someone else, though. Did you go, pilled? I'll real off my players in the week first. Yeah, I've got the exact same three. Is Rolly, but I've put Zack Jones at third, given that he was playing against that VfL midfield, as rarely mentioned before. I've got Tim Kelly second and Sam Welsh first, but obviously all three played off their face. And then rookie the week. I actually went with Archie Perkins. Bit of a breakout game for the bombers. Put on a clinic looked reminded me a bit of Zack butters. And Yeah, he's just he got a coach's vote as well. I reckon. He's stiff for the right not to get the rising star. I'm nation. Yeah, they're very I like that, says also baknpo use. It's into yeah, I can't lie. I don't think I've watched Esson and play this year, so I've no idea what it what his deal is, but heard he played very well. There's so much for this bloody two time rising star nomination elite club. It's happened like three times in full weeks. So Luke, Luke Jackson's another one, I think, along the blocky show and Mich George artist. so that's bit random that's happened. I think it only happened like twelve or thirteen times before. This year and it's happened three times within the first two months, which is a bit strange. But moving on to the talking points. This is where I'm actually very interested to hear your opinions and we will battle through this lag to try and hear each other. But first of all I'll go with you, Roy, because your analysis last week was just top notch. So the three current longest finals of droughts in the AFL are Carlton, Freemantle and Gold Coast. I think the most recent was Ramantil two thousand and sixteen. Could be guessing there, but they are the three longest apart from the Britain bears. But you know, obviously I'm not going to talk about the Britain bears. But so the question is who will win? WHO's not not. The questions not who will make the finals first. The question is who will win a final first out of these three teams. So, Roley, break this down for us man. Well, I'll try and keep some bit shorter than last week. So I think I took up a fifteen minutes last week in one elsis. But anyway, so at the moment, given gold coasts, you know they they've you know on the rise, nearly made finals and then sort of obviously had a massive set back and they've almost had another mini rebuild when they brought in all these young kids and like six top tens in two years. They're going to be playing finals like within the next five years, and we all know that now, specially when Rawley comes back and they all start to get years into them and they can run out games, they can be playing finals suit. At the moment I'm going to exclude them from the Calton and fur conversation just because they're I think there's still maybe one season behind the other two teams, maybe two. I'm also just given their track record away from home, especially in Victoria. I know they obviously proved me otherwise against calling on the weekend. Hopefully they can continue to do that, but at the moment I'll say the other two are closer. I'm going to have I'm going to tell about free o the obviously we look straight away at them infield. No five is in there's, I reckon, the best player the COMP when he's fit. You know you've got brasure and cheer running through their cabs. Arong's huge, but I know their injury pro I saw injury ravaged at the moment, I should say, but I think couldner a bit more well rounded on all areas of the park. They've obviously got while she's helping crips out and while she's a better player now. I think lots of people would be starting to say that now there's a lot of talk of that. So it's too prong midfield and there those two plus Ed can Oh, he's obviously huge for them, and Harry mcay is now having a breakout year. So how MCA is the...

...one player aint for our lack. I know it's not. You Tab it as a better great servicemen for them up forward, but he's doesn't have a high ceiling and I don't know he's not. I don't think it's at all forward to take into a premiership. So I think how mccay is for Culton. So in terms of who wins the first finally say Carlton just because of how much better well rounded they are. Less spines awesome. You know they've got Jones of weadering and then crips and then their forward line of Catil and the car's awesome. You look at Frio's it isn't as good I think all the tall defenders are solid but injury prone and a few meeting sizes in there like Luke Ryan and who obviously very good. But you know, you look at the tall defenders like Joel handling, Alex, Pierce, Griffin, log like, there's not only really jumps out of you there, whereas for Carltono, weaderings obviously all Australian caliber. And how MCA is going to be. So I definitely have to say Culton. I think that's the reason that so many teams are back in three in games of the season because they see that midfield and they think they can topple anyone. But as soon as it's out of that midfield you really free or really relying on plays that could be playing in their two's. So I definitely think could. As we talked about last week, I think three obvious have a ridiculously good up and coming midfield, but I think cold and have pretty good up and coming list of over all around the park and they get to continue to get more pigs. So I think Carlton are going to win their first, the first final out of the team's I reckon it'll be next season as well. I don't think any of the teams will make it this year. I Coulton Ferre will justice out, but I reckon Carlton will make it next year, especially with Kareno coming back and another season into Walsh and the KAI. And Yeah, I think I'll make it next year and win it. Then he'll do you tend to agree with Roe's statements. Then I'm not going to go as in depth, but I definitely agree that gold coasts a third. I think they're definitely a lot further off. They lack that bit of experience that you need at I actually think free Oh will win a final before Carlton, purely because of not five. I think he's got two or three more elite years in him and I think they'll affinually get it done within that time frame, either next year or the following year. Just not, just not a hundred percent short. Carton have it in them to win a final? To be honest, like I'm, I'm not convinced yet. Don't think they have any like unless Patty crips turns it around becomes a lad again. That's the only way it's happening in my books, which is hard to see at the moment. Yeah, I definitely agree with bit of both what you said. I'd say calm will make the finals first out of this and next season they probably will be the best out of the three. But like whether they can win a final, that's an interesting conversation. But Yeah, free are. I really hope they do, because I feel bad for that five. He's probably I agree with you, ro I think he's the best Finn AFL when fit. So I hope that before he sees, you know, the the late stage of his career and he's maybe not as damaging. I hope they can get into the top eight and win some games, because it's it sucks for him that he's played his prime in a crap team. It hasn't made finals in like five or six years. So yeah, hopefully is say that it's Freemantle, but I also think column would probably be the popular vote amongst the public. Yeah, GOLCA's probably a few years off, but I think their peak will be the biggest of the three. Not sure if you boys agree with me there. But or another big topic that is pretty much brought up yearly in footy. It's rapped footy AFL. It's an interesting sport. Obviously it's only played by one country. But one of the big pitfalls of that is that they can't really have international footy. Obviously there's the international rules, but that's pretty different. But there is has been the state of origin before. Obviously the NRL stole that from the AFL and it's been very affective for rugby league. But and we've seen REP representative sport in a lot of other codes. But do you see pilch? Do you see representative footy having a place in the AFL? Do you wish there was representative footage? You have any ideas for it or do you think it's not really necessary in the the AFL is just big enough on its own? I'm probably a bit fifty on it, to be honest, but I do like the idea of a state of origin or an Allstar type thing like they do in the NBA or reckon. I'd be fun and people would get around it, but yeah, I don't know. I'll definitely I can't really see it being a big thing ever. Yeah, it's...

...tough when it's like not ingrained in the well, I know it's historically being a part of footy, but it's hard when it's not like an annual tradition, like state of origin is for the NRL rowy. Would you like to see rap footy in the AFL? Because I was thinking about this earlier when we saw the plan for the Party and because we've seen obviously a few different types of modes come into play and you know the half piece takes. I'm obviously primarily talking about like hey felt x, for example, but like the State of origins of obviously we saw one the year two go for the bush fire relief game and they would then, you know, they really be good quality games to watch and they are exciting. But I don't know, like it was just I just the gut feel kind of says. Kind of says like I'm like Pillach, I'm very fifty, because you know you won't get forty four of the best players out there. There's always can be players are injury, caution and all of that, but don't play and for that reason you end up with almost like that I felt like situation. Or you know, days out from the game you saw players pulling out and all that. So I'm not sure, like if I'm very fifty better, because you'd hate to see you maybe like a player or to go down just before the season started or or whether whenever you play it. But my little mini alternative is instead of looking at like the players in the prime and playing I can all stars match like that, I say show the future instead and, as we've seen previouses the draft, as with people start to pick holes and it's saying it's too long and all this and that and losing interest. But as we've seen in America, dropt like it. The NBA draft is huge over there and the NFL draft. So what I propose insteads give a lot more attention to like the underrating championships and show more of them and sort of provide more, you know, TV shows of them and articles of them and really make the draft, I can, more of an event. They always talk about making it a more family event on the TV and you need something to back that up. You need, you know, months of research and viewership to back that up. So I instead of I know I sort of got a bit off tangent here, but I'm I'm fifty about the whole strap footy team. But then I started to think one instead of looking, you know, to the players right now, put a bit more focus on the offseason drafts players. So that's just one little minisuggestion for me. But yeah, I'm very fifty about it. All obvious, believe me. If you if it was on, I'd watch it and I'd enjoy watching it. But I just think there's obviously, if you down falls to a few disadvantages to it. If it could function the same way the D rl those their state of origin, that I'd bill for it. But yeah, I because you know, at the end of the game you can definitely see everyone sort of shaken hands and being mates and have them last. But you know, there's a few charms I reckon. I get around it, but yeah, very fifty about it. Yeah, back that draft idea. Yeah, I completely agree with the pillage, I think, and it also could go hand in hand. Like I know it's hard to I think it will be hard for state of origin to ever become a big thing in afl from this point on. But if, like, I don't know, if Victoria versus let's say Western Australia, if that becomes like a really big rivalry in the UNDA teen championships, all of a sudden those players going to the AFL and then that could spark up the state of origin concept again. But yeah, I reckon I'd be really cool. We've seen the NFL. I don't know too much about NBA, but I know in the NFL well and bea I know college basketball's massive, but so is college football. So everyone knows pretty much all the first round picks. They know everything about them from, you know, the cornerbacks to the quarterbacks. So yeah, that'd be really cool. Where most people who watch the AFL draft they might know a couple people from their local area, you have the occasional person like rowy who knows everyone, but the regular punted you know, knows one or two blokes that they might have a connection to and the rest of it they're just listening to random people say their thoughts about random kids who play football and it's yeah, it's a bit disconnected. But yeah, I agree that. Really I would like to see more emphasis on the under eighteen footy or even the nap league, that kind of stuff. That would be very cool. Or right next one. I don't know why I find this really hard to word, but I'll try and word it like this. Right. So we've got a pie graph. You've we've all got a high graph. A hundred percent makes up the paragraph and you have to divide the percentage of likelihood of winning the premiership basically. So, for...

...example, I might think Richmond have a forty percent winning chance of the premiership this year. But what I want from you both is I want the teams in your pie graph that would sit at a ten percent or high chance as of right now. So I'm interested to hear that. Obviously there's been shake ups pretty much week after week to the premiership favorites. I know the bookmakers. It's changing all over the place. Pilch, what which teams would you have over ten percent right now? Well, actually think ten percent is quite low. So I've got six teams in there and it's basically just the best six teams. Richmond, Melbourne, Port Dogs, Brisbane, Geelong. Yes, simple, road, road, you tend to agree. Yeah, I agree. I actually added in some percentages to my team's just before the potty so I'll quickly include them. Um, I've felt wrong putting a percentage of high and twenty given how much the premiership favorites and how a teams are fluctuating each week. So I've got like Richmond's the favorite in there at a twenty percent for dogs eighteen and then port, Melbourne and catches make up that last fifteen percent. But yeah, I'M gonna probably leave it as Richmond as the premiership favorites at this point. But you I'm going to have the five teams in there and over ten percent. The Eagles, the line of the SWAMS are going to make up the rest of those percentage points. I'll discribe the other teams I don't think make the eight. Yeah, originally I had the same as Pilch, but then I realized my six percentages added up to a hundred and I was like the chances, you know, same Kuitter and stuff. It's very minimal but they all have a slight chance. So I thought it would be a bit weird if six of them added up to a hundred. So I've decided to add to it two ten percent which was gelong and Melbourne. So I've taken one off every team, so they're now out of it for me. I've got Richmond at thirty three percent. I just think you know, it's the finals at the MCG. They're two of their biggest competitors struggle away from home and the dogs will you know we've seen them be good in the last five years but like in the last couple years, they haven't necessarily been dominant. So I've got Richmond at thirty three. And then I've actually got a three way tie for second. I've got the dogs, West Coast and port all at fourteen percent. I just think port and West Coast if they came up against Richmond all the dogs in the grand final, I'd pretty much have them below twenty percent chance winning that game. But for me I think if they come up against one another or a geelong room melbourn or something, then I think they're both a good chance to get the W and obviously, if they make the top four, which put oute laid will and west coast might, their home ground advantage in finals will be massive, even if it is the second week and they losing that first round. And West Coast yet it seems outrageous after they're dips in form. But they do have a lot of players out, like I think on the weekend they probably had six of their best twenty two ours. So I don't think too many teams can say they have that many injuries at the moment. So yeah, I've got port West Coast Dogs Four Team Center Richmond thirty three so or pretty similar, but some backing Richmond a lot heavier than you anyway, rowy or right. We've been doing this weekly and I think we're going to continue it for every week because it's very enjoyable to do. We're going to be redrafting the top ten of the two thousand and sixteen draft. Usual route rules. No mature age recruits, no rookie drafts. Obviously, when I mean redrafting the top ten, I mean you can, you know, pick someone from pick seventy and put them in the top ten. It's not re arranging the top ten. To any SMARTASS is out there. Tim English is born six months earlier than the age you're meant to be, but we're not counting that as mature age because he's basically the same age. So will let rowy go with this one, as he is a bit of a drafting guru and I made a full of myself last week going first, so I'll protect myself off here. Two Thousand and sixteen draftmate, what's your top ten? Well, the difficulty this one. I might make a fool myself here as well. I was give out a few honorable mentions to the likes of Olive Florence, Zack Fisher path at Jack Bow's, Jack Graham, that Ainsworth and joy simkolin. They all came into consideration but didn't make the cut. And up ten I've got father son Josh Day coss is, obviously got the surname. That means he could be anything. He's obviously shown a lot of promise and seems to kick a vital goal for coin with every week. I don't know, every time I watch the Highot Day coss is always kick him on the caps and in the game. And number nine, Nick loves a lucky cock,...

SSH larky. I've got him in and there the to all forward for North as. Obviously struggled for opportunities for them in the inside s given the quality of football the norse displaying, but I reckon feyears time they're going to start to see a bit of development in their younger plays. is going to get more opportunities and life is only got to get better and he's going to get more support. Like we said, hey ms is, he could do with a blow called Ben Brown supporting him in the Ford Line. But unfortunately he'll to out. He'll he'll get the number one to defender every week. So it's going to be hard for him to progress at the moment. But as we've said before, it's so hard to get quality all forwards and he's certainly one of them, especially as a youngster. So number eight, Jared Berry. We've seen what he can do. He's shown a lot of promise and he's had some serious games, some serious breakout games, where he's just, you know, he's just almost like a step ahead of everyone, but he's very injury prone and, you know, form is questionable at times. So I've got a minute as a goalkicking mid but I just want to see him get a full season, especially in the midfield for the lines, because he really could be anything. He could be an absolutely awesome player or he could be one of those plays a sort of dissipates in terms of their formidability. Number seven, Harry Perryman been very underrated for gws. You know I was playing for a Victorian team. You know he'd be have a lot more spotlight shown on him, but he's been very good for Jos when he's played for them. Obviously is at an interrupted season this year, but I still back him in he's just come back and he seems to play every time. He plays well. Jus play well, so whether you read it much into that I don't know. But a number six we've got the elderly man, we've just mentioned him English, who's obviously a huge for the dogs. I know he's not the strongest TAP Ruckman, but gets around the ground. It really helps out this structure, especially when he's up forward. Could obviously show he can take a few clunks and he'll give Norton and Bruce or himself the third toll defender, and that's all you need to secure yourself at defendable score for the game. Number five, now, this is where I might get controversial, and number five I've actually got the number one picking Eddy McGraw, which I know is controversial, but he's been good. He's scoreboard impact for an I midfield that we all expect to become elite. Isn't to riff is an ideal at the moment. Believe me, I think he'll. You can lock him in as a two hundred, two hundred and fifty plus game and player, but the moment I want to see a bit more damaging. Let's let's create a word here, damaging. This from Eddie McGrath. I think he's a bit to one dimential at the moment, but I think he will obviously improve on that in his career. To come shape Bolton at number four. I think Friday night's game made him jump up in my rankings. He was absolutely awesome and shows that he is a goalkicking mid with x factor qualities and it's a player at every team needs and he's been awesome. I'm so good at that. We overlooked him because we were linked to him all up leading up, so leading up to the draft we ended up taking Ben Long. So anyway, I leave that there. Pick three. Jordan Ridley, you know, and I've said super coach God and is an elite defender now. has had a breakout season last year and he's just having it another stellar season this year, buying the concussion for my super coach team and probably everyone else's. But he's in a number three and a car and to see how he continues to play he's very exciting. And number two is questionable. I've Got Tin Toranto because he is disposal efficiency, especially by foot, is in fantastic. But we saw it it could do in his first few years, especially that grand family. If at gws he was the best player on the ground the grand final and shows he's not afraid of a big performance in a big atmosphere and I think obviously last year is sort of hurt by injuries, but he's, you know, arguably the best player when he's fit. It's been especially through our midfield. So if you can fix up his kicking, which is obviously hard to do, but it could be absolutely something else. But at number one, humor cluggage. This one of the smoothest moves in the AFL and is quite the opposite of any mcgray. He's very much more than one dimensional. You know, can play inside outside, got a great versus been has it all, some school board impact as well as a much more exciting last they to yell out the dying seconds of the game. So I'm definitely to have him a luggage in there. I he's definitely a player I'd love to see. Thank you, to give it just his poise and compulsion for us, but unfortunately lawns have got him and he's just only going to get better. I actually he's up there in the in the brown load at...

...the moment. I actually think he might have been second in the predictor which just maybe think he's only getting a better. Therefore, you know, he could be a chance of Brownlow in easiest to come. And with that being said, I've definitely locked in as my number one pick from that draft. Yes, and very interesting calls. They're actually have a pretty similar as to you. They're sadly had to admit some of my favorites that you just mentioned there, which hurts. But before I get into mine, Pilch, I like he your ten mee. Yep, so mine is also pretty similar. I'll tried to fit in the power peppers, Todd Marshall's Willem Jews of the world, but they just aren't in the top ten, so I'll avoid the abuse from you too. There in a number ten, I've got Josh Daycos he is just a freak huge talent. To be honest, a lot of these blokes are pretty similar in level and potential. Actually a bit of a tough job. But number nine, Tim English. Number eight I've put in Joy Simpkin. I think it's Simpkin, Butcher's the pill as you've, as you've experienced firsthand, amish by having him in your super coach team. But I think he's quite dogged compared to a lot of these names because he plays for North I think if you put him in say even a Collingwood, then he would be a far better player. You can tell he's got a huge amount of potential and talent. Number seven, just because he's a key forward with big potential, Nick Larky. Number six, jared berry. Are Actually really right Berry. Yeah, he had some huge games and he's going to be God. Number five, of dogged row. He's man. But Taranto in at number five just because he absolutely murders the pill in every single game he plays. He's always two hundred, Dream Team, sixty super coach. So you just know something's not quite right. I don't know whether it is decisionmaking or just he's kicking socks, but yeah, number four, shy Bolton. TRANTO's probably a better player, but Bolton's want to, want to flag, and he's just an absolute freak. Number three, Jordan Ridley, number two McGrath, and number one definitely human luggage, without question in my opinion. Agree with you there or right. A lot of honorable mentions here. I'm probably not going to go through the law. Honorable Mention to anyone I miss out? Who you to have said? There's been a few names that I've gone like yeah, they were stiff, like Jared Berry and Perryman. Also shout out to Jack Bows, I don't think. Don't know if we've mentioned him yet, but he's found his role of half back. He looks good. Isaac coming exact same boat, and I've left out Josh Day coos, which is pretty controversial. But yeah, by the way, before I get into my list, wrap was not happy with you, Rosith, putting Davis UNIAC ahead of Stevenson last week. He was pretty he sent me a message about two up two hours after it went up. He's not happy. I think you played cricket with Stephenson as a child, so might be a little bit of bias there, but yeah, I thought I'd let Sha didn't have anything to say about me leaving Cambrain around, which is interesting, but all right. Number ten, I'm going Olie Florent hasn't really fully reached his potential, I'd sage, just yet. It's been tested a few spots, but he's starting to find his spot in that Sydney Swan's outfit. Very classy individual. Number Nine, I'm going Gist Simpkin. Last year he was right up there in the north being F for me in my voting and exactly echo exactly what pilage just said. Brilliant ball winner, loves a clearance, just can't use it at all and plays for a shy team, so I feel bad for him. But yeah, he needs to work on his disposual efficiency if he wants to get into morally echelon of the game. Number Eight. I don't think he's been mentioned yet, but Jack Graham. I'm actually a really big fan of this guy. I think he gets overlooked because of Richmond how many stars they've got, but him and shy Bolton equally are more than I think shy Bolton's better player, but I think they both two of the more underrated players in that side. He's really good ball when are really like inside gritty player. Doesn't get much glory, but I like him and he's one flag. So good on him. A number seven, debatably too low, but shy Bolton, when he came into league I think I had a...

...super coach and he was like a forward pocket. Touched the ball like five times. I think could be wrong, but maybe human like Tyson stengle or something came into a similar time and those blokes like Reoli, and I thought he was just another one of those guys. Didn't see much footy to goal every now and then, but he is gone on leaps and bounds one of the most impactful ball users in the league. I'd say. She's just so good. Number six. Once again, I don't think either of you've had this guy. Big Fan of him personally, but I've gone with Brandon Parfitt. Probably just most famous for just being pronounced as path fit by bt, but doing my votes for two years now I've seen that statistically, is a very impressive player. Holds his own in a stacked along midfield pressure and tackling machine. So human, Camp Guthrie, I think they're. Cam Guthrie is getting more plaud it's now, but I think they've been overlooked in that midfield for the last couple of seasons and path it deserves his portas as well. Five of gone to Ranto, exact same as you. Pill should just think. I think he hasn't reached his sealing just yet, but I think similar to like a war pool, I think is better than James Wallpole, even though I had walk pretty high last week, but I don't know. He reached a very good level very quickly and I'm not sure if he's got that much left to go, if you know what I mean, where some of the players above, I think after high ceilings and he needs to work on his disposal efficiency. But he you know, he has similar traits to some of the guns in the complex. Dusty Martin, which is always good. Number for I'm going Jordan Ridley currently said he last year came second in my Assinin Benf and he's currently winning my brownlow and he's missed two weeks, so that basically says it all. Number three, I've gone with Timmy English, right up there in my dogs, being F last year, which is very interesting given the amount of beast they have. But obviously you guys had nick larckey in their same sort of principle. The you know, the taller guys take a longer time to develop. Not sold on his rocking ability. Epity is only and he's fourth year, I think it is for these guys. Maybe fifth and not actually sure, but he's proven to be a fairly decent forward as well. Okay, fifth, number two, I've gone with Andy McGrath. I do get what rowy means. Not Very impactful with his touches, but I don't know, I think I'm a bit polar not polarized or some of the right word, but I'm under a sort of spell with any mcgrass or I'm kick for goals on arter once in school footy and after that I think of you know, just I just appreciate it a lot more. But yeah, I'd get well, yeah, yeah, a hundred percent agree with both you. Human luggage is probably the only player I would comfortably says elite out of this bunch. There's very good players in there, but I think he's a class above. His inside few is probably one of the best. Like, if you have to pick a player to have an inside fifty chance, like he's just going to hit a forward on the tip like some of these all use. He's he's just going to bang it eighty meters though now to day. But Yeah, some of the club lost a board fifty and trees. Yeah, some of mcluggage forward fifty entries in the Carlton Game. We're just silly. So he's an absolute garden. Deserves number one spot. So, yeah, interesting calls from me that. I don't think you guys have puffit or gray and, but will get rhats of feedback shortly, I'm sure. But that's actually a really good draft, a lot of depth. I know will tell about this before we came on. Are they have played more use than the ones we've done previously, but they as Pilch said, there's a lot of players at a very similar level there and it's going to be interesting to see who takes the next step into the superstar status of the competition. All right, we won't talk about it for too long as we are already forty five ish minutes into the Potty, but bit of super coach Chat. We all love it here. I've got to get up and about boys. Hugh Janis has had a great week. I was inside, I think, the top five K for the round. I missed a lot of the bad scorers. Didn't Captain Gorney kind remember actually who's done bad, but I'll let you guys talk about it more. But you had Josh Kelly returned to greatness, had a few other cold Daniel went back to old ways. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with that. Still ranked like K, don't get me wrong, but mission to what do we say? Last week fieldge top thirty case, but it's on the cards. It's pain maybe fifty eight dollars, but with Corkbet. But you know, I'll give it a world. All right, we'll start with you, pilch, see, coach Nerd well, we all are, but you two definitely better than me. All right, your top. I'll give us a little bit of a wrap of how you went last week and then maybe talk us through your trade targets this week. Yet how to stink a last week. Don't really want to...

...talk about it, to be honest. That, combined with the port match, may have brought out a few tears on Sunday night. But I'm ranked about seven, eight hundred now. Went down six hundred spots. Patty CRIPS is quickly becoming my most hated footy player, even though it was my most loved two years ago. But Anyway, I'll move into the top five by premium, by targets this week and I'll start with Josh Kelly, probably my favorite player outside of Port Adelaide, and last two weeks he's been right back on the wing. Someone posted a thing on twitter saying he's gone from half forward to the wing and he pumped out or are you pump out one and thirty? Yeah, and he's and he's about five hundred and twenty K so I mean he's that. He'll definitely be coming into my team and he'll do his calf next week. Steven May, four hundred, four hundred and seven K was elite last year on super coach and he's been lead again this year by that one game where he got hit in the eye or whatever it was. Caleb Daniel another one. I think he's around four hundred and Twenty K ish. After that nineteen. He pumped out controversial one here, but locky whitfields back didn't score that well because you butchered it. But he, I think you rapped up like thirty touches, got a couple of coaches votes and when he's fit he's going to be a top three defender in super coach. And finally, I'll just go clay and Oliver, because he's a top three mid and you think he's still under six hundred K so yeah, that'll be a bit my five. Before we get into row. He's trade tires. I have to ask you if Josh Kelly was a three out of ten what do you be your favorite player? Absolutely not. So there's a little bit of a bromance. I don't know, huge, probably very best looking player in the camp and best looking kick in the camp. Do you agree that right? Best put looking player in the camp? Josh Kelly, Royal Side Jack Steel. But well, Jack Steel, I mean, let's be real, but I think Josh Kelly takes the chocolates for number two. Fair enough. How peper, we should actually do that, Sam on the proud of our glass players. Yeah, I was actually thinking about that. I was like, can we do a top ten best looking blokes? But I was like that's kind of abjectifying footy players. So I don't know if it's politically grows. All right, it's very much enjoy, leaguelizer. I would enjoy going each club's website and just, you know, and marking down the good looking blokes. But yeah, sounds big, big, controversial. Grove, so younger than I. and talk us through your trade targets. Yeah, well, Matt Row, Maddie Rail, yeah, Rally's trade dug. All right. So well, fair. I'll give a quick wrap up. Holding my own in the top three Km, two thousand and something. Just want to try and stay around there. Given I often prioritized leagues this, you'm going to prioritize my rank. So yeah, I made sure avoid the Gorn. Sixty three is my captain. I went with Grundy, which was handy. Managed to piss off row before he started, but I went to Jive farred. Obviously didn't really do much better than the forty three, so I was a bit shit. Yeah, I was like, I don't know, I'm instead of suggesting trade targets, I'll old talk about the ones Piach talked about. I was going to look to bring and Stephen May I four hundred K mark, but after looking a bit further into it he's never actually play more and twenty games in a season is drew. So it's drew, but he is not quite there and I don't think it'll be a top six defenders. I know he's incredible value at K but I don't know, maybe not for me. This week I was looking at bringing dawn Huston y obviously coughed up a fifty SAR. Unfortunately that's down the train. Yeah, I'm going to just try and look to bring it on a sound Walter Jar and lines in the next two weeks. Those are just going to be my two targets, given they're just sort of hovering around that six hundred mark. I think Walsh only got to be at fifteen but if he gets another one hundred and forty is going to get close to one fifty. So I think next week could be good time to get him. I know he's pretty expensive considering he's young, but the end of the day got to do what you got to...

...do. So yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to go double down grade this week. Actually I'm going to go chapman to Martin Frederick and it's going to do a bit of an Arrow golden to. I'm going to go a week early in OURCD pocket three hundred nine K. use that to get a couple of preroads in the next couple of weeks. So very excited about that, but could turn out disastrously if, for example, our CD gets injured. But I'll go over the rookie targets because he pill touched on the premos. Obviously Martin Frederick's huge this week. He's going to rise about sixty plus K. he's playing Adelaide so he'll get a fair bit of halfback as we as we expect, port will win. You know, he'll benefit from that scaling, so we'll get that extra sort of five, ten, fifteen points. He's definitely want to bring an I don't know what his job securities like Pilch, but there's if you can get up to like two hundred k through and Kane, he'll hopefully be on my bench or out of the team by the time that it's time to get rid of him or when he's dropped. He's probably the only rookie everyone's going to be bringing in. It's on the bubble because Nathan Murphy's another to bring in, but he's a defender from collingwood. He'll only rise about twenty five is k look solid. would be bringing him in if it wasn't for Frederick. But there you go. And the third best we'll get to bring in. It's just a mix of our city Ryan Burns, Caleb Pol to Maddio, he's Edwards through west coast, Nick Brian, who all just played the one game. So it's obviously pretty risky, but if it enables you to make two really good trades next week, which is what I'm going to be doing, it's probably just worth buying the bullet and pulling the trigger on one of them. So yeah, those are the rookies for me. Next week seem interesting to see which of the fire and which fall flat on their face. I'm sure right Clud orkins will, as we said, you know, to a car or something, but we'll wait see, cork you've mood and yourself. Mate might choose. Whoever projected Gorney at a hundred and seventy eight, Harold Sun. That's a violation and it violated a lot of teams because there were so many massive projections on Friday night after the dogs tigs game and everyone just fell flat on their face. I think I almost saw a few two thousand four hundred projections with the corney skipper as like three hundred sixty or whatever it was. So yeah, that was a bit silly from whoever did that. A herold son, but ill the teams who skipped him, they can cop that. And just touching on Tom him or Jesus, this guy is hated by the super coach Gods. The week he tears up the VfL is the week that, the saying, is decided to win by, you know, sixty points. So I read the in the mix today and they're going unchanged. They reckon sains won't make a change. So yeah, that really hurts everyone at this stage because he would be handy. Pilch quickly asked you row. He kind of touched on it there. Do you think Frederick is in the best twenty two? Report Adelaide when full fit, I'm going to say no, but right now it's his spot to lose. Like as long as he's playing well, he's not going to get dropped. But until Lucky DNS is fit again and probably play a couple games in the sample, I think he's absolutely fine. So he'll like, he'll make us enough money to be to be worthy of a good rookie. That's it's good for. There's also, I think, are you going to say Nick Murray? I'll mention Nick Murray who, if he gets selected, is probably the next best rookie to bring in this week. But what was your question? What did you I saw in the in the mix today that hammers expected to be dropped, Hammers Harler. For those playing at home, that's would be pretty ballsy from Kenny. Do you think that'll happen? Did it say for Bonna? Yeah, yeah, look, I don't think that should happen. To be honest, I don't really agree with that, but we'll see. Yeah, that'd be pretty sparsy. Then back to you, rosith. What do you what do you think about Collie Dawkins is job security and everyone's hot on him, but I'm a little bit worried about that personally. I think it's a similar case to Frederick. I think he'll hope, like you know, obviously, when the list is fit, he's not their best twenty two, just given just because of how young years and because Richmond or premiership team and he's just a kid. Still Bet that being said, he'll get a lot of set a bounce attendances. Given conchens...

...now out through an ex bit of an extended period. I'm not sure how long it's going to be. Could be couple weeks, could be a little bit longer, but yeah, they have got a few injuries on their list of the moment and I'm hoping that they're going to try them out for a bit because he's been that. I've just they've tried a couple of rookies this year and he's been the best so far in that one game and I'm hoping it's a similar case to Frederick and I hopefully he'll play enough games that, as well as he showed the weekend, he could score well. So if he plays, you know, five six games, scores see how he done the weekend, he'll make enough money to warrant pulling the trigger on him. And Yeah, I'm just fingers crossed that I'll happen because I might have to bring him in this week. So yeah, I think. I think so. There are two very similar rookies this week and collade organs of Ride Burns and I think Kalie Dawkins will have better job secured in the rhyme burns, given there's Luke duns to new conky a footy, but nevertheless it is tearing it up in the VfL every week and I have a feeling there he'll come in eventually for someone and probly be Burns if he has a down game. It was a possible to not have good game against hawks in the week, can I'll admit so. I think Holly Dawkins has a better job securried out of those two. So I think he's a better pick and has better scoring potential. So I'm going to say it's worthy of a trade. RCD. I'm more worried about hidden than Frederick because I've a feeling for I've a feeling Frederick. He'll score well flying off that halfback. You know he's he's guaranteed some heat possessions off that Halfback Roll and she'll obviously get well scaled this week, which means that will hopefully secure spot for another couple of weeks. And Yeah, we'll see what happens. Yeah, fair enough, I can't lie. Actually haven't considered the double down grade to you just said that. Now I'm actually sizing it up because there hasn't been too many good rookies over the last three weeks. So if there's going to be a lot of good ones this week, might jump on the double down. And also there's been a lot of talk about some of the rookies getting dropped, like samberry, James Row Chapman. Saw Finland. McRae was predicted to be dropped today as well. So that hurts anue who changed him in last week. That's been a bit of a bus that looked like it was going to be really good rookie or moving on to the round eight preview round a previous yeah, that's right. Sure, better the week. I'll start us off. For me this is the easy one. Port Adelaide to beat Adelaide in the showdown. I just don't think Paul will lose this. Realistically, there's not too many easy tips this week, I think. I don't know if anyone's a bigger outside apart from Adelaide, than like three bucks, which has been rare the season. But yeah, poured at home. I know it's at the lad time ground as well, but yeah, port shouldn't lose this one. Paying at a la teen. That's my short bet of the week. PILCH. Do you agree with me there? Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Lot normally like putting port in these short bet segments, but I think bounce back game against the showdown will be pumped up Bok. He's back and we'll bring our best. Think we'll bload them out of the park. So yeah, I agree. Yeah, row you do you have the same yeah, Gott to agree. It's nice to not have those apparent in there this week. Yeah, I've definitely got to say poor, I mean wills bounce back and I think they'll just be too good for Adelaide. Will be as simple as that. Yeah, and I've said they're really yeah, very fair. I can't live. I started putting money. I've got to start putting yeah, I actually like that called Pilch of north there. There's a lot of upsets this week that I reckon our chances. I haven't really picked one. I've got about three that I'm interested in. I have to say that I've got to start putting money on my calls, because I went five from five last week in Michaels. So need to start putting my money. With a mouth. There's a maxing coin. But yeah, upset of the week. I've got three. Wet Honestly, that anymore. I want five. Yeah, that's yeah, Your Dad's are right there. Peach. I've got three. I don't want to steal anyone's thunders. I let you guys go first and then if I've got one left, I'll stay month a pilch up set of the week. Yeah, I actually found this stuff. I didn't. There was one that was a dollar nine near Dolinini, so I didn't include that. But I've gone the Swannis to beat Melbourne. As they've shown, there an absolute threat to the big teams. So I think that's very much on the cards and paying like three fifty or something. So huge value. Yeah, unreal value. Rally. Yeah, I've got a few upsets in...

...your as well. I actually had the Swan's against mold as my maid one as well, which is funny, consuming the D's of the most informed team the camp. I'll list off a couple of others. I can't wait for the north pies to see what happens there. I think North every game this year they've said, you look, you know, let's let's try some new things and stuff. You know we're not, probably not going to win, but you know it's best to see, you know what works and what doesn't. But I think this week, with the first week, we're going to go in thinking right, this is the first game toia. We we we've got a serious chance. I'm to get you can probably say the same thing against Adelaide a few weeks ago and they really took it to them right into the last quarter. So I this week thing is saying right, boys, we're a real chance against its under fire, under so unconfident team in the pies. And tell you what, as we've seen, they're not going to go I would twenty two north. It's been real they're going to win a game or two here and there, and I reckon this could be the one. I'm like it. I'm very excited for it. I'll I don't know which one's at least because I know how mich she'll have. One of them is yours, so I'll let you take this last one, but there's two others that I want to mention here, but I'll let you so I'll see what you have to say. Yeah, so my other one with Sydney, I think that's very, very good value. I don't know I'll be tipping Melbourne, put it that way, but I think, especially with the rumored positional shuffle with Tom McDonald potentially going back and stuff like that, this could be a big, big upset from Sydney. But the other two I like, actually like Hawthorn to upset West Coast in Melbourne on Sunday. They're paying three dollars at the moment and yes, they did get towed out by the saints on the weekend, but we've seen how bad west coast are away from home. They're very, very beaten down and I think it would just be the most alas to Clarkson thing to do to get smack by St Kilda and then just shut up. The hate is pretty quickly with a surprise win against West Coast. So I like that one. And then this is weird because they've been in Shite form, but gelong to be Richmond. I just I can never rule out Geelong and I don't think you seege along at two dollars forty too many weeks. I know Richmond just beat the well at the time, probably the premiership favorite or the other premiership favorite in the dogs, but they similar to the west coast that Richmond are very injured right now. As you said rally earlier, Trent Coachin is out for a while and I just think just long this could be a bit of a statement victory that gets their season rolling and gets people start starting to talk about them, because they're not going through the whole year playing the way they are right now. At some point they're going to hit form and I think this could be a week where they pull out a big one. So look, I'll be honest, I haven't thought about my tips yet. I don't know if I'm going to be tipping these upsets or if I just think there are a chance, but yeah, I think they are interesting role he did you have those ones as well? For your other ones? Yeah, I did. I reckon I might also have a quick mentioned essendon over G Wus. I know we just saw gws Gat a bit of form. But that being said, they can be prone to just going back into how they've been playing last few like before, the last few weeks, and I guess it will be very hungry after that close loss in the weekend. They're always sort of love to get over a Coulton and they'll be very bitterly disappointed the fact that they didn't. But that being said, I reckon they could just come out and just come all guns are blazing against the giants and really sure that they are still on the rise of bottles on. I'm sure no one's doubting that just because of the weekend, but they'll they'll want to show jenerous and they'll want to tell them that you know, your your performance is over the last week here. You're not back. So I want to see how they come out. But that being said, it's I'll probably got as my fourth upset. I'm not really that coultid and I also be tip of job that gws. But yeah, I I'm a big fan of a couple of the other sets this week and I can't wait to see what happens. Yeah, it should be a very interesting one. I'm going to be a hard week for tipping, that for sure. I would normally ask pilch's opinion, but we are over the hour mark here and it is a hundred and ten, so we'll just get into the game. The most appealing betting lines of the week. I'll start us off and then pilch can follow the dogs. At my twenty one, five handicap, I guess we can say. Up Against Carlton, I just think they bounce back and just the rust Carlin over the table. I just I don't know, I don't I don't see this one being close. At times,...

I am very critical of Carlton and I'm open and honest about that. JAP Ral Vent Pa. Yeah, I think twenty one one finds very generous to Carlton and we've seen over the last few weeks that the bookmakers love calm when collingwood probably because they have, you know, a hundred thousand people betting on them. But yeah, I think the dogs with a three and a half gold handicap. I'm taking that all day. And then Sydney. I agree with pillage. They're very good chance to win against Melbourne, but if you want better odds, basically will not you. You obviously win less money if they get up, but you have extra security. Plus twenty two point five. So Sydney. They've only really lost big to the Gold Coast something. It was a rather game. They've been in this year has been close. So twenty two five buffer their good chance. That's closer than that. And then I agree with you, Roe Es, and I will be tipping gws for that's for sure. But Essen, and we saw it against Sydney, they love a close game and they are giving them a seventeen point five headstarts. I think that's a decent chance, especially with gws this year. Apart from last week, they've been pretty low scoring side. So I think that's a good chance. Pilch, are there any others you want to mention that? Yeah, definitely. The Sydney one port minus twenty nine and a half. I really like. I know they've gotten slightly better, but we beat them by about eighty five points last season in the showdown. I think we'll just be fight up to the Max. And then that was pretty much about it. I've got for some reason, I like three's capacity to make a game close. So plus twenty eight and a half against Brisbane, I don't mind, but I wouldn't be gambling on that one. Yes, Freeo, do love a Sunday night. Forty, forty, all kind of situation really? Any others? Yeah, as opposed to last week, where I think three out of the four lines that I was a huge fan of lost, I'm just going to go with the one this week with poort at, I guess you know, mice twenty nine and a half. I could agree completely with your pill to. I was getting interested to see if you we're going to chuck in your own team. They're but definitely fair enough, I think. If, yeah, import are going to win and they get to win by over five goals, so I definitely reckon that's pretty appealing. They're so to go into the showdown with Paul or premierships, favorites and Adelaid. Who are, you know, bottom four team by seasons and as like a needed less than a five goal one dollar ninety odds. It's pretty unreal. So going to be back in that one. Yeah, that's actually a very juicy pillage. Is a quick question. Can you same game, multi the line and the head to head rner? Yeah, but like if you know. But if you multi the line with the head to head, the odds won't change if it's the favorite, because if they cover the line then they've won as well. But Um, and then actually, yeah, and then if you do the underdog, it will just be the odds of the head to head one. So I guess you can't really. But that's about it. Boys. It's been an absolute grind. We've been dealing with about six second lag, I reckon, so I think with battle. Well, hopefully you listening and watching at home have not realized as any like at all, and hopefully I've been able to edit it so it looks like it's been a smooth Combo. But yeah, and it's also quarter past eleven, so huge shout out to youtube for still being here. Greatly appreciated. I know I say it every week, but Roey Sammy's work schedule, so we'll try and pencil it in next week to get it all in person. That would be pretty unreal, but we'll see how we go. We are busy men. But yeah, thanks for joining me. Boys, as I mentioned at the start, right up there with one of the best podcasts, some unreal analysis from the fellows and we'll see you next week. Good luck to all your teams. Go Port, go the saints, go huge Janis, and yeah, cheers listening and watching, but.

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