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Episode 60 · 1 year ago

"Avoid Odell Beckham Jr??" NFL Fantasy Wide Receivers (Avoid, High Upside, High Floor) - Episode 59

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Hamish is joined by the NFL Fantasy crew, James and Pilch, to discuss the remaining Wide Receivers not discussed in the top 15 episode. The lads discuss players with high potential, high floors in scoring, and label some players with the avoid tag.

Oo, welcome back to the hounorable body.This is sode, fifty nine of the show, and we ar back the NFL Fantasy C, we'reback. I'm looking like a Sushi chef today, sojust bear with me. There gone for the stewabroad like B bend down. U Ut M,I'm joinith the NFLEXPERTS when it comes to planasy it's hard to find twobloks to know more about the Gan, we're finishing off outsit of six fantasy mtheares, where we go through we've gone through the QBS, the KB ruffies, therunning backs, running back ruffies and the Water Savis. So today would doingthe water savor ruffee. So we once again talking about who has the highestfool: Who has the highest ceiling? WHO HAS UM? who you should avoid so um yeah um without feather Jr? Actually, no y? UWe want to talk about this first Leonard Fornet has been announced thathe has agreed in principle to joining the Tampa Bay Baccaneis. So, basically,both sides of the party have agreed to it. They've just got Ta agree to theMall Finer details of the contract, O I'm sure that will be announced in thenext couple hours or days, but it's pretty much get locked in right now. But the question is in terms an ofilfantasy. Is that good or bad forfornet Umcurtis um? Well, I know Pwhich isn't thinkitwas that good, but I think it's really good to be honest, buse I feel like He.They might not necessarily get as many like catches just conciering. They GTOPrett, laterersavers and two really good tideends, but Um. I feel like he'sgoing to get plenty of of opportunie te Ru Ron, the bowl I bee liky suit theteam really well. They Cam didn kind of a bit e grunt. Indeed, the Um ofsensethat they'r they're real flashy offense. So now they're going to be a gruninfornet, who I personally thinks a real good talent and someone who canreally show off his talent at Um, the box, but also I I feel, lie m his practivity and efficiency interms of breaking tackles in terms of RM having overrun Toas a increase andUm yeah. I feel like E, can rack up plenty of the yards thereas, itconsequent an em should be another thousand plus yard season folfor, and Istill feel like Ko will get catches, though just because Um Ra, obviouslynow forty something in Hes Fortie, so he's not necerarily o be able to slingssixty five yards. So you know he n need someon a throat too sore andmfornect could obviously catch and and break off the wines there. So I feellike a perfect, perfect forather box and perf fo for ne as well ICH. I know you have a contrastingopinion, so why you think it's actually a bad move for the great man. Well, Iagree that the efficiency will probably go up a little bit and it'll definitelyget more touchdands. Only three touchtands last year on the drag Bot,the volume just isn't going to bay. There he's compating with three other decent running backs,especially Ronald Jonts and they've, just drafted the rookie cashon Vaun andBroadin Lachau McCoy and in the passing dam, the buccaneers throw o theirunning back spot. Why less than the JAGS did? And we don't even know ifhe's going to have a threedown roll there, so I'm just I'm avoiding himbased on all that. Just don't think he'll get anywhere near as much volume yeah. I think we had him. I think hejust missed out talk fifteen. I think he was sixteenth for now running backrankings, but that was a couple of weeks now, so it's probably changed,but for me I think he's dropped out of so now we've got a ten men league, tworunning back, so for me I think he's dropped out of starto contention. Sowith him in sixteen, I would have said he was like just just an army too, butnow I'd say hes a benchoption. At best, I think ASPOTSHAID, the volume is gonnadecrease a lot. I was looking at some of the Tampa Bay lads stats last yearand McCoy, and I think I don't know how to pronounce his name, but I think it'slike Ogan, bewale or something M. I could have absolutely putchid ut, butthey both got like thirty to forty REC receptions in the receiving game andthen Ronald Jones and McCoy. Both ran quite a lot so and then obviously theydroftin Cashon, Bol and so yeah. I think it's going to be part of acommittee and with committees, I'm always a bit scared, because I've got abit scard from Damien Williams last year at the chiefs. So I probably wouldstay clear and also the main reason...

...odds d clears. I think his ED P will behigher than he should be. So I don't think is necessarily theworst option like if we just came into it: fresh, clean slate, od Sayeis, agood benchoptianeas high outside with td potential and stuff like thatsisaing because he's a no name he did well last year. I think he would begoing higher than he probably should be now. So that's probably why I won't betouching him butyeah. I think I think he could bepotentially, in my opinion, be obviously I think it's shoin to becompletely different to what Yei say, but in my opinion I I to feel like heill be potentially the best running back to on the board. I feel Ik.Obviously Yo said: There's going to be plenty of touch downs now relative olast year for sure, but even Thongh, like he's average in fourpoint three yards last year and we're talking he as Mentay calld about Consowwherewhere's, the the defensive line e, even like looking Aminshoth they're,always going from forenow and he's averaging four point: three yards. Solet's say his proctivity harbs SARS ar his his output Harts, but hispractivity should like tramatically increase but talkingapparently. I thinkin his second Alisu. He was averaging eight point something yards like heeats clearly got some legs in him and he's father a In't know: Him Wgt, I D N T I don't really CALP. Thecollege starts coming into the conversation but fair enough Iman asmoving tor a Lo bit Orlin um last yea, I think Jacksonville were rike. Twentysix and Tampor rank like seventh, so that's 'm very good for him, but Iguess wesee how that plays our so yeah we'll get into our wide receivers. Nowwe'll stop I'm sure you're waiting on the edge of your seat for this one. Sowe'll start with the floor. I was saying to so the people with thehighest floor outside our top fifteen are saying to the fellors. This isprobably the hardest one for me because I was getting. There was quite a few guys who theyhave a high floor, but they have a really low, um ceiling. So Um, you know,I think they're almost anavoid, but we've chucked them in we've, chuckedthem in the floor. So first off pilch. Who Do you want tolead us off with me floor? Water, savers, yes, um I'll,kick it off with Tyler locket from Seattle Sa Awks. Ijust think we know we know what we're going to get from him he's on he's on. Arguably, a top three offensein the R GINTHENFL top three offence: Ind theNFLO and he's he's beenconsistent last yyearis over a thousand yards he'll getthe volume and the thei redzowne work required to easily be a top twenty top twenty fiveide receiver, so I think, he's very safe but you're not going to se hm likePushinto, the top tenr or anything like that. Yeah Um. I know we don't want togo from like Florida avoid to see. We want to keep a constructone bu sinceyou brought him up. I've actually got this guy. In my avoid section I wassaying I I found it tough to distinguish between an foid and um flaw, but it's purely because I thinkhe ill be getting drafted too high for what he should be because Um he at themoment he's eightypce twenty one. Last season he was twenty second AndeUm in terms of average, and he ended up the second off the season. It wastwenty nine and I think all of us will have decame that coffee in ou ceiling,section army is expected to break out pretty well so for miny. The fact that he's gettingtaken at twenty one is a bit of eternol. So that's why I have h't been by avoid,but I can see m the argument fom also being in the floor, because he's garanthe's on a good team with great Jebees, guaranteed receptions and targets andas she said, that Um probably going to scool quite quite alot again this year. So hewill probably be solid tedy target. Again I've gotout. I've got AMISMA, Wader Save Atan at the moment, so I'm prally Aoninabove the average Ponta interesting cu. Have you got anything to say inlockeor?Do you want to go to a new man in your fol section Um? I was actuallycontoplay mentioning lock in my floor. Sellzo Adom PILC GE, it cut Um. Who Do you want tomention next for the fol Um, I'm going to go a shock is matirs yeah Y, ah I'sRobaly. My number one man actually for this one. Obviously he's he's an a latetalent he's o plenty of potential ther, but I'm sorry what is ther k be likethe contert last twenty yards. Like I...

...don't understand the AIS in the NF ejust M. Don't know whethe gi. I seriously darner what the Jiguis adoing like they', a tor of regamsn they've govered. I letter fornet. They it's just the whole thing's. A debarcleand theyhave go in a late. WID receive a talent in shark and the seriouslywasting him with Um me O as ther. Keep me so he's a massivemassive mflaw for me just because Um mad she just might not be able to getout of hands in time and and sharktice may not have any production as a result.So yeah he huge fool for me yeah. I think shark is a great um example for the four section, thespretty much guaranteed seven plus reception, Um targets, a game he'sgoing to be that number one men, he probably Wi, cupe a little bit morecoverage this year. I think Qorterbacks MIP had been more attention, but Ithink he showed last year was pretty handy at the game. He's eighty pasetwenty three as well, so Um, it's blow where he finished last year in terms ofaverage, which is always a good son and he's only young. I think last yeam outof many second ar third season, so im natural progression. Obviously, and yes,Um next up, you guys Minn't have this bok and you're avoid 'cause. I know oneof you, maybe Barthy aren't too hot on him. I think it's I don't know yeah pill, Chanan Yaim, anumber twenty five and youllist. It's cane and Alan Um for me similar to ch a shark, is itchark or shark. It's got to be chark, but it's just better to say, DJ shockor yeah anyway can and Allan. I think this is just a stan. It's like AlanRobinson. It's like chark m those, not so great offences, whith the average CB.I feel like the number one wide receiver offen benefits from that and last year he dominated well he'sactually Dominat in the last three years, he's been third and twenty:seventeen eleventh and twent, eighteen, eighth and O thosand and nineteen, andthis year they're coming in with thyro Taylor and Juston Herbert. So I thinkhe's going to be then number one target again and he's going to be the bailoutoption. A lot Um, I think yeah Mike Williams- is thatwide receiveit too, don't think now go to him. To often he is more Danfieldtarget. I think he had the highest average yards pereception last year, soKan and Allen's going to be that short target they're going Na want to hit up.You know ten yards or so, but they're just going to throw it to him heaps andhe's eighyps, eighteen, which I think, like I'm not saying, hat o steel, likeI don't think, Ot'll be atop, ten or anything, but I think, like I don'tthink the punters are too hot on him m. So I think he's a pretty solid. Maybe you get like Tyrekil Yaabi one. Ithink keen and alm would be a nice complimentary Arbytoo to go next to him.'cause he'll, probably just be solid every week, but yeah thought I'm Kenand Allen. I know Piltu didn't write him too Aly, I'mpretty Lon in him, but I'm not avoiding and he's definitely fit into the floor category yeah justBal target for me. For me, though it's it's kind, e, Hopkins kind of thingwhere I feel like we can say this: every singl we ar about him and someareaa still whips out numbers attractive for a fanasy player yeah. So I can't see why hi's not goingto be a top twenty Waer sevyet again after all, fill Romerson's, probablyjust as good as tarotable. Last year, Um r Pi, by the way, did you agree withDj Chark or Yep Yeah? I LII lith Holk Yeah pilch. Who else are you bringingup to this section? Another bug that fits into the pooroffence, pork B situation, Terry mclorn hes? He was clearly the most talentedRuki, wader saver and thenfl laasnluck wasn't even close. He led the ENTI NFLin contested CA, cachrate Kentucky marks, Inti NFL, his eruns of fourthree five and he's like he's ripped and massive. Our bodies or thecornerback spit he's just a lock for an insane amount of targets. 'cause.Obviously the redskins all they'll have to do is throw they're going to bebehind in every single match, and it's got absolutely no competition in thatoffence. So I mean even if Haskin sucks, if he's getting ahundred and fifty targets and he's a he's, the beast of a talent he's he's alock for a good average and I've got him he's my current larter saveseventeen, so I think I'm pretty harning yeah his ID P is twenty five ighty paye, where he's being drofted onaverage fethors at home. Notw. Do Pay...

Mans but I'Myeah. I lie. I haven't Einthe ceiling section, but looking back on it et is probably more for, but ifyou're a bit of foor he's got earth, if that's the ultimate situation, isn't it'cause? The thing is ir thinking, I'm probably more thinking in the future,like not necessarily this year. That's probably what corrupted my decisionmaking but um like if Dwan hausins comes out, looks like a new man mthey've got a new coach, Um Terran mcclari's, probably going to be thefirst guy to benefit from that, because he's clearly the best player on thatoffence. So I thought there was a chance there thathe could Um. Where did to come last, she came finished. Twenty nine Il therewas a chance. He could jump right up into that top fifteen, but lesbie realhaskins. Although he's a tow he's, probably not going to come in based Um Lik stright away anyway. So that'sprobably more a long term tol process for me, but yet, I think far isprobably more appropriate than sealing Um Cotus. Who else are you relling withUm? This is another one way it could be a big feeling, but also for me, there'sthere's a great chance of Bing afor and I Smith sheuster. In my opinion, um lost ym int, I'm just Kina. Yesterday Iwas watching a bitter NF L, I'm Lise, and I was just watching Abis misusterand even though obviously rude off is an absolute dat of a KB Um. He just wasn't opened the whole timewhen he's on the number one cornerback and he's got Safetye's around him aswell e. He just wasn't open and I'm worried, even though this year he's gotroffersburger, as is this Qba, which is a dramatic improvement relative to UmRudolph's PR, Ragain, probably shouldn't be an NFL, let to be honest,Um h, yeah, I I don't know if using to beopen, like obviously probably one of the best wide receiver trudout there,but as a Whi receivef one, I'm not fully convinced by him, and so I'm notnecessarily sure whether I would want him as my wife, receiver, one or eventwo, I'm just I'm not sure. If the production's going to be there so ther thatfor. I think he's got a bigfloor in him, a Ala sure bt O bcause. He struggledlast year, so I don't know how he has a hig law, like, I guess, he's going tobe their main man and big bens coming back, but for Meis kind of a sord blowcrew is just unpredictable like I agree with you that I wouldn't want to drafthim at all. To be honest, I think it's being taken way too high yeah, O that's wha. I'm saying he's abig big floor. Bes Im, I can say being drafted reasonably early again, likewher he's like considered wiresaver one and Droftis wite receiver, one and hejust produces something that should be on your bench. Yeah he's eighty PS UMfifty my mom's just done her ancle outside he's. Eighty F he's fifteen andyeah. I don't know, I think, he's EEN takeem way too highly p. do you thinkJuju should be in the conversation to be a starting wide receivar in a tenmen, Leal Um, yeah bordel on water, save two, nota watersable one thing of I had him quite high. Last time we wereon the AI waves, but IVF moved him down. 'cause there's been, he hasn't, Beedn compind the bestreports o how a training cap apparently apparently struggling bit out there. SoI'm getting a be worried about him. Yeah and the've got a few other guysexpected to Um jump up a little bit this year. So yeah, I don't know 'cause.The thing is: There's plenty of fish in the sea. It's not like you've got fourbluks to choose from so I don't know why anyone Wul riskj smiths suster, isa wide Resien, two or even, if like Im, honestly, just not Pik Humi in anycircumstance, but for me, e does have a bit of a ceiling if he just comes outlike twenty eighteen. So I guess there's argument fobside with Jew juice,so maybe es a good bench or flexoption the air. U Definitely wouldn't pick hemas up as a starter, Um, maybe a bit more of a Rod, one for mfloor. I've got like ten downpage shing utNoviousy, not going to read them out I'll, go Jamason Crowdo then Ho feltthe most glamorous selection, but he's eighty PS, forty six, which I think's abit of a robbery. Last year. He ended up thirty fifth andin the second off of last year he was twenty. Fourth, so the first hearf theyhad all that issue. We had donled out for a month with money, lukefolk playedTrevercinian didhys leg, but when donall came back for the Second Hoff,he was twenty four from the comp he was just getting like. You know, bulbtargets every game m. So for me he is the perfect situation where, like hedoesn't have a high floor, an Al He's...

...not going to come out and be a talk.Fifteen wide receiver, but I think he's pretty locked in to be like a topthirty top thirty five. So in a huge league, if you maybe have three widerseavers or two wider caves and a flex- and you just want someone- you know- isgoing to pump out decent schools each week, I think crowd as human, because Ithink forty six is an eighty piece, a bit stiff and I think if he was onanother team, not a mythical team like the jets, I think he'd be getting takena lot higher m. So yeah he's me he's one of the Rugar ones. I've got a boys,got any rogue sheuts Um. U Do like that! One um I've got I've got another one who's,just being completely disrespected by by what his ID PS and that StulianEdeman yeah yeah every year he pumps out a thousandyards, and he just he G. I thin. He was forth only behind holio, Marcho, Thomasand Arobin targets last season, Brady leaving is a big blow for him,but Nutan. If Newton's going to be throwinganywhere, it's most likely going to be short ones into the slot, which isright where Edomin is so I'll still think. He'll he'll be a great a greatpick up. Yeah, I'm not really sure what the public's thinking on this one. Hewas nine last year and now he's eighty piece, thirty three, so I'm not reallysure where a twenty four position drop is coming from like that is like twentyfour positions. That's probably an average of like three Um daycreasing like that's, would be rare. For me, ecame twelve and twenty eighteen as well he's been good. The last like fiveyears pretty much and I think he's and also they don't really have anyone else.I know pilch. We talked earlier in Thi seas off season about an Ekeel Harry,potentially being a breakout opportunity, but Mohammed Sineu. Ithink I think I'm curs you might mention I mio, but I think of this romis he's going to get traded away. They just don't have many options at all, soI think Philip Dorsett or something went to Seattle Yeah. So I don't knowwhat the public's thinking with Edelman, like, I have to admit, he's not themost glamorous pick. They've got a unusual cornback situation. At themoment. They look like they're going to be running in a lot more this year, butyeah edaman. I think thirty three is eighty pay. US Disgusting 'cause, Ithink he'll be pumping out. You know, fourteen to eighteen, every single week,if not higher than a I'm sorry I like him, im curdess, have you got any ropones? No, I'm pretty much dumb with the foestdioest. I didn't have too many or I'll just n go through them fully, but Umthe other guys iw want to mention, I think Javis lantry. I don't think e'sthe greatest selection this year with Ostin hoope coming in and Beckamexpected to bounce back, but I think he'll be pretty decent. As always'cause hes kind of bakers go to. I think, Tylaboyd M, I know Aj Greencould will be playing this year. John Ross might come back from injury, but Ithink, as I was talking about with, can and Alan when you've got a rookiequarterback or a quarterback. That's not that good m. They often just lookat the number one target and just mack it to him all the time, and I thinktyler boy could be that man for Jo Barrer Alschon, Geoffrey Onch. Again, Idon't think he's a great tigo but he's EIGDP sixty four and that man is anabsolute like consistent machine, heis average, seven to eight targets for thelast seven seasons like seven to eight a game. So for that to be going an Eigd,P, F, sixty four. If he can stay on the park, I know theye brought in Um jailand Rega, but I think he'll be seeing a lot of footy and could bea steel latelate in the draft ar off the waves and two more don't go into it too much, butChristian Kirk. I Know Hopkins has come in, but they're going to be scoring alot of points and he was kind of cilless go to men, especially in thesecond off last year, and he gets a lot of targets and then hunter Renfro. It iver rid one UM, given the Las VegasWater, save Situationis, very confusing. If T had Henry ruggs drafted in, theypicked up Jason Witten in the off seas and they brought in Nelson Agalaw, butI think Hunter Renfur. I think he's going to stand out this year is theirwater sable one. In the last six games last year he had five plus targets andeach one and in the last two he had none an agh and he is going at theaverage dragh position of sixty five. So I think he could be a steel laht inthe draut or once again off the waves, so think he's selling to watch ot andit was his rookie year last year. So natural progression should see himinprove yea right, the spicy, the spicy category, now Fellos cealing M Curtiswho's to number one man for this category H, my number one man andprobably ynumbr one mansell is Dacae...

...matcalf Um, huge, huge seeling. For me,Um has all the physical attributes to bey no late reseave up Sharalasci e'stall he's quickly. Strong he's got good hands named Um. He was racking uppoints last year, relative Tobene, a rookie, and I sa hm collecting, Mordis, yer andobvious. The Save hoks are Parhous oe NFL and U Dak decay this year. I thinks sein tobe a crucial part of that and so hea silling on him, because he could end upbeing probably that he could potentially be the wide receivedbe one and be collecting plenty of points inplenty of receptions this year as Ruso. Yet pilch, do you like Dakay, yeah,yeah, he's, definitely he's definitely good a high ceiling. I've got himslightly lower than Lockit, but he's definitely. This ceiling pick out ofthe two yeah heis. A hundred percent go TA highCEILAND. The only thing that concerns me a little bit with humans he's veryhot, so he's eighty PECs actually kmilk out like there's no much valley in it.Um He's going at twenty two at the moment and last year he finished thewhole season in forty first. So twenty two like it'll be I'll, be impressed ifhe is in the top twenty two this season to be honest, but yet high scoring teamUm. You know he's just a base, really don'treally need to say much more care to sent at all, but yet he's the obviousone. Another guy who I think's an obvious one: Aj Brown thehu on himbrief. He intotal last year he was thirtieth, but in the second he waseight, so Maksmarieda was dalking and basically and then tenes came in andtook a likeinto him once again he's eighty piece, sixteen an so notridiculous value in the pick but M. I think he can definitely be a tall fiftend wide receiver. It's it was hus rookie ere last year, so it's hi secondseason, so natural progression there um the only maybe questionmark, with AjBrownis that well the whole Tennessee team really is that you couldt questionwhether it was just afluky six weeks Um, but I think Tanahill is like. I keepsaying his a limited quarterback. So I think Ajbram will continuously be hismain target M and then they obviously run it up with Darry Henry he's: A BIGDU J Brown. So He's a scoring threat M he's downfields right as well. Hescored a few big Um. It scolled a coupe of big TOT Chans, Ithink or Nember one thet was like sevent yards or something Um. So Ireally like jbrown Um pilch yeah. I love Ajobrown as well, and he's pretty much in a DEVANTI ADEMStop scenario. Now Koridavis is just had a season inding injury, so I heis the only weapon they've got in the passing gameand his yard. The carry numbers were massive, as you Tush on I had hav beenfifty eighth yeah he's actually Myfordan now, so I love him m another one for me is uh another rookiefrom LAS seasin Hollywood Brown. He was the Hewell. Firstly, he's theonly he's the only weapon on the Raven's team in the passing dame andthey're literally likeantrs Soo esis only wider saver only Ra and save U and they arguably the best offense in theentire NFL last season. As arookie, he only played fifty percent snaps becausehe was a rookie. This sason that's going to be seventies, eighties and the breakout is just set to occur andhe's in an unreal scenario. So he could honestly go huge and, like yeah, a hugetouchny anpotential too yeah. Once again, I keep saying this, but myconcern with him is his eighty PS, twenty eight so yol be persontaly shocked if youfinished aboue twenty eight, it's getting hard in Hio yeah last year hefinished forty nignt and the second off of the year sixtieth. So I'll be honest.I've got him in my avoidsection just 'cause. I think he's a little bitoverrated for what he's going to bring to Tou a teame but he's definitelySelim with a huge ceiling. Um Curtis. Do you write the Hollywood Brown Col oryou know back in it Um I on Kno. He did Missi me justbecause obviously boltimore than be great, but I don'tknow I'm bi concerned well, he was injured part of last year. To be honest,so o no is, is it he second de this yeail thinkYe Oyeah? I feel like that. Es there's potential there for him to to rack uppoints, but I don't think I would draft him. I think I would see thim on thewavers b like what Canlasia. Let him...

...let him have a wake or two in the wiveis and am say see how that production is and then maybe pick him up and chuckhim on your bench. Ther man he's not going to Ba on the whit an's, not sorry,Hes Ade pays twenty eight, so you'll be lucky, but was the inors place here? No,I say he was the first receiver off Omdono Curtis College argument. Here uthe was the first receiver off the board in that drauft and that's the Tam Afhknow them so he's clearly he's clearly got the talent to Nebr N J Brown, YeahMmca mcaf would have been firsto. It was Injuri the hole F that year Lov Aright Yeah, so Marquis Brown, LiceHereis, a definition of seiling. So I don't really know why I don't have himin there. But for me it's probably just one that I don't want to get suckedinto taking on draft night Um Cartis. Who else have you got the seilingsection, Rudeley Ihave in my Seilan section, Miino h, he was in our topfifteen. So I know you uys probably won't be COCPI, but not M. I feel, likehe's, got lots of potential this ye to to really increase his Um fantasyscoring Um last year he the last two years. She obviously thirty in the lagierhis arm he's beenan upwardtratactory soryarm and I can only see B, the same thisyear thatreally bolsted the offense, a Wer Tor m that really tried to make sure there'sa bit more of spray, which should hopefully open up the arfor a bit moreforholio Jones and Umreally, and so I think we might see readly and culier have a bit moreproduction or receptions bs. I think that they might actuallyrely on really a bit more this year, just because now he's going to be moreexperiencing him that I have to sorely rely on holio, Gino kind o carry thatoffense through to to enb. I felike it really has a high ceiling to to pullout plenty of tw days in clanme of fantasy points. Isshe yeah, I back thatcall as well Um poor. This is one I'm just going tothrow it out their boys. What are we thinking? ODEL BECKON I've got him inthe ceiling section, but he could just as easily be in the avoid section. Forme, he finished last year, thirty seconds,but in twsenta eighteen he was seventh, he as a bit of a star or the league.However, the thing that puts me off with him hes eighty pnd twelve, and forme I don't know if he's well wide receivit to let alone like yeah. Idon't know if he's worthy of the twelfth men off the board so for me, isequally sealing and avoid for those two reasons but yeah. I could definitelysee him bouncing back this year and being a top twenty wideor sever. Butthe thing that concerns me is they've: Got Javis, lantreat back and and JokuHunt, chob and Hooba. I don't really know if you can, like, I think, itwillbe shared around too much for any of them except Chob to be absolute base, like I think,there's going to be a very large spread there. So that's another thing thatworries me but curtus. What do you think of Beckan? Would you have in inavoid or did BACKAM IN H back Tom Hily? I think if I remembermy Wi Recaverangin, I think I actually might have had him ten eleventh eleven,so yeah actually Um. I hes a huge sheeling for Indisia to where they ReliImag, that genuine whi receive a one and the landres. Why I receive it too,but in saying that you're you're right ers also bi a void slushfloor with him,because he he could be an absolute dit again,where he he's taken as a wide receible one or a hard wide receiver to, and hedoesn't have the production purely because th their offenses stacked, butin thiend I I think it's all going to rely on Mayfield whether majorl has itas a good season or not Masur. It has a good season. Youo'LD expect lanjury, Umand JOK and o doubt. I have good satess as well, but well have toansee yeahpice. What do you think of BECON yeahm? My Manus obviously got the ceiling'cause of what he's done in the path, but here he's in my void. Catagree,just 'cause he's going just going way too high for me for the reasons thatyou stayed before too much competition, Armorat pilce, who else you bring himto the table? Yeah were maning for this one. We were touching on Thi, Houstonlads. Before the aisle befor we got on O Willfuler, I'm not I'm, not necessarily high ond. Wellfull. I just think he is pretty much the definition of a ceiling a they wereseying him chuck up. Fifty seven points in one game and now Howkins is gone. Sothat's a hundred and fifty targets...

...ready to be spread around that offense,so men, if he stays fit, he could cop a lot of those and go big but he's also extremely risky. So I'm O I'monly taking H M if I've got some solid wide receives already in thy Tame. I think he is a awesomebench option though, yet him the main thing's health, though, like last hewas Legi going into every game questionable. His aid appears thirty four, so I don'tthink that's too high. I think it's just on the borderline. Yeah maybeleave it, but if you've got your two wide receivers and maybe a feasibleflexoption, then I think folrs not a bad fourth wire receiveant a put intoaside Um. I know courtis, you have differentopinions, but I've also got fooler in my ceiling and another Shouston boy, IE,O o my ceiling. I've got brand and cooks Um. Once again, I probably wouldn't gonearim. I Muss go to a DP of thirty five and he's just such an unknownquantity. At this stage, like probably another guy, I wouldn't go for unlessit was on my bench, but I'm in twenty eighteen. He was the eighteenth best water savel. So thatwas different team that he was dealing with cup and woods for tie. I will notcut that yea really ecause, he dids aciobut. He was dealing with thosefellows Um for targets and now he's moving to Houston. Once again, there'sgoing to be targets spread around but um in terms of pedigree he's probablythe number one man out of the fourl, definitely above stells, definitelyabove cub, and then fullern hi completely different tops of watersavers. So, who knows he could bounce back? He could turn into the Hopkinsfor Watson. He could you know just pump out fifteen sixteen a game, so I thinkher's a spicy little option, especially for the bench, but don't have too muchfaith in him. The CURTOS, why a e you not too keen on the Houston, fellowsYeah Iad, both Foand Cook, ing my voice, Ashion, a m and fuboth of them. I foundI had cooke part of last year and for both of them. That is highlyinconsistent, like you, you'll have games where the whip that hirt twenties but H, Theyre Gonto, have some games wherethey're GOINGTO wip out ten and frankly, when you're, when you're in fantasy, Ifeel like you're, really looking for someone escoul be consistent and justgive you some consistency, Hwakin weekout in terms of points yeah, they might be great for somethingthat Um for like a weekend, maybe of the wavers.If they're on the wave is a doubt they will be but you're right. They could bea good bencoption, but I think you said that the Olso someoneyou probably just wouldn't want a draft just because you just don't know whatyou're going to get and you wouldn't want to be put in a situation wherethey or hite receive it too. Because of an injury, MTO someone else and youhave been someony whos we've been out ten or seven one week, becausethatisinconsistent B, but also because I think they're g th what three threehead an whi receive a corn. Now I may even Fou yeah, so I mean theproduction's going to be really spread around between them. So it just adds tothe inconsistency. That's Goin, umplay plake, their white receivers. I thinkyeah, there's Um Rom is on the street. Put My you know: Innext to the wall,but apparently Kenny stills might be getting traded um before the sasons stops, sir. I read anoter saying like ten paper, mostlike would be traded and he was in there Um,I think, just give Hem n the situation. It'll probably see him as the water sabefore and he's probably a little bit too good for that. U Wele, maybe nottoo good, but like no one wants to just rot in the WITE recipt efore positionfor any tame, and so that could also spice up fuller in cooks but yeahhundred ercent and agree with you that point if you're starting its injur,that's actually a very good point. I didn't really think of that. To behonest, U Pilch, who else you bring to the ceiling Tabe or I ijibran was my Mindman, so I'm allout of the ones I've gone into depth for, but I meay just bloks blucks. It's been a commonthane, but blacks going into their second or third year, Um with that sort of upside, whether justthey could turn into a bast any rookies that fancy oupilk just aboiding Brandan iuk is onebecause of the Debo Samuel Injury. He'll, probably be there widersaber oneum so he's definitely a lot of UXSIDE, but I'm not sure if likete might beavailable on the wavees. So you could wait and see with those sort of blokes,but he's probably the main one upside for me yeah. I was wreating thismorning, apparently thet birth injured,...

...but they both expected to play wake one,but Demo Samuels missed the whole preseas in camp. So even if he doesplay it might be like only a couple snaps or something Um curtess. Anyoneelse you want to bring up um well, obviously ibe bit of a Gagbut if he nows a payslike sixty ef you're getting picked up if he just manages to somehhow getpicked up by toim riches, its not going to happen. Bot If hit, does he's probably the biggest ceiling at ofeveryone on the liast. Just because he's an Adan Ambola but he's s Soinmors through he's a socker as well. Sir, like you,wouldn't want to pick him up, but you'd be keeping your eyes pilled, just incase yes picked up on wavers ornis as a free agent or something, but I don't Kn,Don' even know if the An. If I would let him back in so I wouldn't t Iwouldn't EPO. O whou mean the draut so m and then just some random bookiesthat I feel like potential high seiling. Just like kind of decay, Mat cawher,you would just have him on a bench. Oul just pick him up on a waver for a weekjust because Um they might have huge production y week, but I had pitman armfor the colts. I I know you boys, don't know, maybe too much about him Bo. Iback him. Usually. I think he is gray out of USC and I feel like he's goingto be Greay and NF LAS well Iqes, another one. I had you mentioned coach and then I alwayshad Justin Jefferson at the vakings. I feel like he um conifes a void that deeks left and he actually might takesome Qi production that deeps had and made me substitute that nicely. So Ifeel, like e, could be another one with a huge seeling yeah. I can't lie. Ithink every repeas in my avoid to be honest, Justoyou Wuldt ao any year. Thinkingabout the top guys, I think they all have Um flawed situations. At themoment, like you got rugs heis playing with not a great Woll robs's specialtyis tsaid, he's rapid, so he's going to be a damnfield target, while his cbayonly hers its three yards. So there's a genuine issue. There Um Jerry Judy, Idon't mind Jerry Judy's situation, but I just don't think through lock'sGoinna be like pumping out enough yards for judy is a wide receiver too to bebenefiting from it. Who Else Are we dealing with Jefferson?I've heard whell? We talkd about this last pot. Cosbet apparently he'sactually the wide receivis free behind, like this seventh round, Pia someoneelse a bit worried about yeah. I guess Pitman is probably themain guy I'd keep an eye on, but mostly others, I'm not too keen on CED LANB YT.Yet you might sqore a few points, but at the end of the day he is behind twopretty top teer and wite receivers and Gallop and Cupa so B. I wouldn't be tookeen on here me: ethough, Jailen, a as well, I don't know Il Jail. An RagOinreado, N Preo, I'm Hanihe Che, could be there Wi sabl one 'cause, he j,Showin Jackson and Alshon Jeffrey. We don't really know what they're going tobring imean their fossils. At this point they haven't really beengoodblack elatefor for a while now, so he could he could take the mantle nos. I I probal couple one just now:What about WHO's? The SEAHAWKS PLOKER? They picked up from New England who wasan absolute boler like he apparently his like physical attribute, Harrmoename by ee, lavinte and Wakins. I feel I could have a hugeceiling actually justjust. Last year, when ijusn hewhiped up like fifty something points round, one and Yehad another Gamewhar.It was high for we so to EFLAT A flex option. Maybe yeah they play a bad Tam.I think Watkins is their water sevea tray now, but I mean yeah mccal HobmanCohobban will be hot, a true boys. I've got a few names to rattle off here forthis ceiling Um. So First Dbo Samuel, I knos M traning camp- might miss weakone but im second year playout. Second, off last year he was sixteen Um, so Ilike him and he's being picked up at position. Thirty six, so I thinkthere's some value in that pick. Armstiff on digs. I don't know he couldbe feeling he could be, avoid an he's going to a new situation he's beingpicked up at EIGHTYP. Twenty six. I don't know if that's the value there,but he's been a top ten wide receiver. In the past he was tenth in twentyeighteen, tespite seal and boiling out that year. So yeah, I'm pretty. You know wary of digs, but I think hecould also be pretty alesome for them. He could bear that downfield target tthey might look to score a lot more this year. Joshaln might rushiafe lessTDAS and I try and throw a few more. The manual sanders, someone else hi'sgoing to New Orleans. Um He's- probably...

...just I don't know- he's been a toptwenty wite receiver in the past. It's being picked up at eighty P, forty five,so Yo could just be some bench foller there with a bit upside t y Hilton, ty Hildan's, a e tough one. Like a lotof the guys who're mentioning here, whe's got a very big injury pats butapparently he's looking all right. This preseason, I know once again there wedon't know if he'll play much, but he came thirteenth and Tweanda eighteen nd.When he played last year he wasn't bad averaged. He was thirty, fourth onaverage and but he's Ety PS, twenty seven, so I'd probably Sta steer clearthat one and then a few, a few pods here de Shan Jackson. As we said he is a fossil but um theaverages. Seventeen point four yards pereception for his career, which iswhich only five people average more than that pereception in last seasonand he's done it over. Like a twelve year career. I mean forty yard. Time isfour point: Three five, so he's a rapid downfield tret and the averages onetouchdown every ten receptions so he's basically going to be averaging oneevery two um w. You would say that overhe has been doing that over hiscareer and he's had three a thousand plusad seasons, an hes last seven. Sowe didn't see much of in last. Only plaid three games, but I think he'sdefinitely someing to watch out for if he stays fit, could come out of nowherein his ED P is fifty nine. So for me, he's a great benchoption, Aj Green,another guy, eighty pce thirty one, but he as been a top ten watersaver in thepast, he's a legendary guy m. So he could be one to watch. I don't know ifhe's going to storp Rom one though 'cause I think he's been battlinginjury as always, and then three absolute pods, but Josh Reynolds LosAngeles Rans He's been bumped up from the from the practice squard, basically totake brannicook's spot as the wide reciver three yeah. He could be someone if you knowthe Rams are pumping out o twenty eighteen numbers. Mcol Hardman, I think,has a high ceiling pretty low floor, but Um, as you said, he's looking to bethet wideer Savin number, two he's absolutely rapid. Um Kansas has gon aSCOR AL ot of point so h. There could be some value in that and then Bracha Brochad Perriman imeaseight. If he's sixty two, he looks like he's going to be in the New York jetswide or seven two and last year he was playing at Tampaso wide receiverfriendly offence, but he in the second of the last season he actually averagedhe's the average fourteen point, seven putting him twenty first. So he showsthat he has some high scoring potential and if his EIGT P sixty two, I don'tknow why you wouldn't just put a Cheky benchoption on him so yeah, that's itfom, a seiling, sorry for naming half the NF l there, but I now moving into the avoid section andPilch who are not looking at picking up this season. Well, I mentioned beckonbefore but M Aja grain, just not not having a Bar Min injuries, ossal, noteven their wide saple onepes on the field. Toleboid is Queel. aftervadoutPera, Savoff tollboard's gone over a thousand yards, the last two seasonsand he's he's in the slot he's definitely the Alfer, so yeah he's AaGran's, not even in my top forty, so so Youlanimat Um, fair enough or yeah Li can't really.I argue with that. I think there is a little bit of biasd there since wehaven't seen and played because wehave finally been Foun, F, L for a fewseasons, but U'm not fair enough C. I also do think he'll be getting drafteda little bit too early getting whitter earlier. He Stra, Obaly, wouldn't begetting until like fiftieth, been on curtis anyone ne just abording thecitie sadelamb Um. Definitely not goin knee him Um. I just don't feel like the productionhe's, obviously a grey option there, but for someone you want on your benchas Iwas saying before I feel like you want someone who us got to beconsistency, just in case someone, pops out m. So yeah I wouldn't be touched:Ind Sedy, lamb, just he's a Raki as well, so he's unnired in terrs of hispotential at the n. If our level as sorry Yeh wouldn't be toshing, im yeafair enough Um, Sicim Dalise, I hadMichael Gallop in this section, but then I sarhis eighty PS thirty. So,let's kind of Mame me rethink it because I think, if you're taking himat thirty, I think that's a good pik and last year h finished the season inseventeenth, but I don't think he's a starting widereceiver, but yeah Um, like I can't really put im in the airport, if he'seighty P, thirty m but ill. My main one's here, a just the New York giants,wide receivers, I wouldn't touch any of them Um they rarly. I don't think allt.Three of them got on the park for more...

...than like one much last season Imshephard aut, his concussion injuries m tate was suspending for the first halfthe season. They ended up all doing pretty decently. Sheppard was twentyFOURH TP twenty eight late in thirty ninth but as I said, they were oftenthe wide receiver one because the other Blok wasn't there where this sees andif they're all there one of them's going to be the water save of three andone will be the watersy Aturia and sake one's back, evaninger Mu, be back soiwuld just be seriously weary. These guys the eighty pays al once againquite low, so maybe, if they're there as a benchoption you're taking them,because the adps respectively slatans forty three tapes, fifty three andshephards forty four. So there could be some bench vallue there ecause. We doexpect the giants to score a lot of points as season buttum yeah in termsinto taking them as a start or anything. I'd, probably stee clear, becausethere's a lot of uncertainty there, Um Pilt, have you gon, anoone, yeah, Devanti Parkr of the dolphins.thes should probably be an unpopular one, but startalases and Preston Williams wasthere alpra Savo Parker was shit. It was a myth. pressdamillions did his natthen park and became a god Presson, Williams's, backfit and firing. So I'mnot even sure if park is going to be there alpurasever and he's playing forthe dolphins as well. So and they've got mice a ciky two who does like totake up a few targets here and there. So I bs he's going way too high. Ithink he's going in like the early twenty Minthth Fal yeah. It's just BIA, EON, yeah! That'swhy ironly clocked like coupe houers ago Te Yah? I was looking at him andPressin Williams and I was like Thep Parke stay awif Fran that Um Curtis,who ell see you avoiding Um pretty much. Anyone from Chicago or LesLust, be on the STOM, Sir I'll be a WAA colin will not be touching. Yi touched himlast year when I picked him up in my draught and Heregret that Collin Ma Hesonuh no he's actually a waterciver. He came in his Watersav O Brusio, an thedraft bots laser, don't know if Heus this Ya, but last sea he was a wirecave.When I picked him up and he did Dok Shit so ye well not be touching. I Oh yehe's been changed to running back, but all he does is catch yeah. He he playhe's a running back, but he never runs so yet. No Fair enough, Yeah TailorGabriel Tedgin, don't touch Hem Alan Robinson touchd him everywhere,but Um. I wot Mi ankly H, he's goting prettylow, so I the OE. It's such a risk. I don'tknow, I don't even know if there's much opside in either 'cause they're notgoing to be scoring any points or anything um a couple other guys. I'vegot here so I had Holywood Bram, but I completely seewy its go, O highsteiling and then next to my final, two I've actually gotcaught and sutten here he's going quite high, he's going ninetenths, he had hs pretty well once Emanuo San is left but Um. Ultimately,he on lhy average, twenty seventh. He was thirty third in the second off oflast year and he's going Nineteenh. So I'm not really sure where that adds upJerry Judy's coming in. He won the wid receiver wards coming out of college,just by not being picked up number one, so objently Um could become the most talented, Wiefersaver there yeah, I don't know, I'm ssteering cleardrew lock. I was looking at Sutton's starts when trew locked was quarterbackand they completely plumted M. I don't think he scored more than like sixtempoints or something with him. I don't know. I think I was looking at Parkerthe same situation so as going to be confused but ytclar o no Wys, nineteenth to be honest and then another Guyi've got. Is John Brown he's notgoing very high, so he's fortieth so probably worth picking up a forty to behonest, but just with digs coming in the whole situation's be unknownd. Hewas twenty third lost season, so yeah I probably wouldn't be picking him up asa starter or reflex any time soon. I don't think he has too much upsidethere. I mean Boys Ger, any others Um, just the Pittsburg boys generallydoest winna be touching them at all. MINCLUDES missheuster, O Seei Rthal,just yeah. I don't know whether he onest want to say wherthe Ruftsburg isactually nolate to an improvement from them or whether theyve generally just got no witeouts Mfor Hosber Y, say wouldn't be touching them yeah and Um nd. I definitely write thatand they've picked up Eric Abram as...

...their second tart end. So, there'sprobably going to be the less foor gon at Wa Woll fty, on up the gots to the big fellow's pitch bu anymore,Um, Mik Williams from the charges thin he's a decent player, but he justhe just cops. No volume and ther their offense is going to be pretty Yuck andobviously Caan Alen gets all the H targets there. So I think he ill prd be producing sometoos yeah id a Ta me he's going like forty ayear yeah. I don't know why. Yeah PeopleFroth, like Williams Lik, I guess, cause interms of actual NLL's, probablypretty good. We just don't E. I remember you took an Asolute base catchlast year, Coling Aot, telight, Plin, Um Dand, just like smacked these backon the floor like two minsn't et, but yeah we've basically gone througheveryone. I don't think I think Marvin Jones is the only blok left too. We hadnow top twenty five, so we haven't talked about, but I still don't want totalk about. I yeah so we've touchd on the whale in afell here, so we've done a pretty good job. I reckon good workfellows um anyany parting words to the Fells Hart theres, more ANF l, Fanson pacascome oup because I enjoy them, yeah Ya, absolutl or it stod raining Welltho Um. The plan iswe're going to record the draft live. That's what I'm hoping anyway, we'llwe'll see how it works, though, want to do that deffinintly and then we well.What I'm planning to do is I don't know how frequent itill be, but I want to dolike nfl, fantasy Ra cap. Well, also ANA fell but um, but probably morefocused in fanansy. Talk about our league talk about the people doing well, so maybe every fortnight will do thator something like that. So there's definitely going to be a lot more N, flcontent. Now that the seasons starting bit also fansy content will keep thisgoing throughout the season. I don't know when the draft episodescong out, but in case it comes out on Saturday Um. The first game will V already happen.So can we get a prediction from you, boys chase, Texans whoare we backing incurt chafs. By how many F I have any ODA Ome, I feel like it could be pretty DAP Wel,I r Hoptdot it at the moth twenty points. Heven thirtypoints Preten, I feel like it could bean absolute battering this first game of the SASION. I said Io Os Sixis norml, but Um pilch yeah. I think the Texans are going to bedogshit this year, not even not even close to making the play off so goodcould get ugly taxand spans look away. Now, don't even don't even watch thegame 'cause you might not. You might noteven be xens fan. If you watch that Shit, I int back that cold. All to be honest,they've lost like one play, um so yeah, I read e, be am back in the worldand they have a shocking Ilon Althougoparentlyi. I was red I line andapparently the eirline is not that bad, a tat Te sure loves to see in the pocket andthen he loves to scramble straight out of the pocket. So it just adds up tosacks when it shouldn't really be sack and he holds on to it ages. 'cause. Helike act himself to avoid the tackles that's what I wroate e Oso. Idefinitely think chefs will be going in heavy favorites, probably paying like adoll. Twenty the bookies I'd say I don't want to go too many 'cause itsfirst GAM in the season, so they will probably be rusting themselves. There'sbeen no precesin games, so I'll, say chiefs by seventeen. Don't even know of that Margeanpossible bes Il back it in Ih. Thanks for joining me boys I kindof lie allthis episode was going to be three hours at one point, but we did well toM get it to a pretty nice time. So yet this has been a complete rap ofeverywide receivant to have ever brated on Earth, Um Juniin. If you've enjoyd,then, if on fancy content, you can go watch our past episodes. Wel Talk aboutpretty much every position. There is, and yet good luck for Tha, N, F, L,fantasy season. If you're listening and we'll see you boy and say.

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